Waste Collection options ? Celbridge

WishUWereHere

cgarvey wrote: »

Just checking if any Thorntons pay per lift customers have/intend on switching? My own maths (as per weight/lift history) is inline with WishUWereHere/shoehorn above. Mine is about 2.5-3x more expensive now, but still less expensive than AES.

Current service charge gone from €50 to €104 (108%). Current per-KG charge (overage) gone from €0.20 to €0.35 (75%)

Thats a good question Cgarvey. I live in Roseberry Hill i Newbridge, and afaik, we have 4 different companies doing business in the Estate: Thornton's, AES, Whelan, & Oxigen.

I have emailed them all ray whelan didn't even bother his ass replying after I messaged them twice. Oxigen came back to me week before last saying they would contact me this week when they have decided on their new rates...still waiting.

As for Thornton's & AES? Well, their charges are clear as daylight for all to see above.

I'm not sure in my case, I'm let with much of a choice CG, and I am betting €104 that Thornton's are aware of this

Buffman

So, one year on and with the pay by weight system less than two weeks away from being forcibly implemented on pay per lift customers, it looks like the goverment are in full 'ostrich' mode (head in the sand) on this issue.

I'm with Thorntons pay per lift and I just did my sums based on my last 12 months lifts, €139 on pay per lift versus €218 on pay per weight. Even with all my composting efforts over the last year it's still a possible 57% increase for me, mostly down to the massive rise in the service charge.

Joe Public

Buffman wrote: »

So, one year on and with the pay by weight system less than two weeks away from being forcibly implemented on pay per lift customers, it looks like the goverment are in full 'ostrich' mode (head in the sand) on this issue.

I'm with Thorntons pay per lift and I just did my sums based on my last 12 months lifts, €139 on pay per lift versus €218 on pay per weight. Even with all my composting efforts over the last year it's still a possible 57% increase for me, mostly down to the massive rise in the service charge.

Is this really going to happen? I haven't heard anything about it lately.

mullyboyee

I got a notification text a while back from Thorntons. Simply said my annual service charge of €50 is due July.

Surely they'd have to notify customers of any inevitable change to the terms of their current deal (Pay per lift in my case).

Buffman

Joe Public wrote: »

Is this really going to happen? I haven't heard anything about it lately.

According to Thorntons it is.

http://thorntons-recycling.ie/domestic/pay-by-weight/

Pay by Weight is coming on July 1st 2016 2017 and as a Thorntons Recycling customer you don’t have to worry about the changeover.

We currently weigh every lift from your household bins and know exactly how much each one weighs.
When the new rules begin we will simply be dropping our ‘per lift’ charge and instead applying a ‘per kg’ rate for each service................To encourage positive environmental behaviour, changes are coming into force on 1 July 2016 2017, that will see all householders charged on a Pay by Weight basis for each of their bins. That’s the law and it applies to everyone in Ireland.

mullyboyee wrote: »

Surely they'd have to notify customers of any inevitable change to the terms of their current deal (Pay per lift in my case).

They'll probably be covered by the notices they gave last year.

L1011

Risk of an election at any stage so I can see a last minute fudge. Again.

Joe Public

Bring Simon Coveney back to Environment

n97 mini

Are Greyhound operating in Celbridge? They are in Leixlip. 15.50 per month and all bins are emptied twice per month.

Buffman

n97 mini wrote: »

Are Greyhound operating in Celbridge? They are in Leixlip. 15.50 per month and all bins are emptied twice per month.

Yes, they started serving Celbridge a few months ago. Their site is a bit ambiguous about pay by weight being mandatory, they appear to imply that it will be mandatory from the end of July.

https://greyhound.ie/faq-making-the-choice-pay-by-weight/

Many customers were happy to transfer to pay by weight and they have the option to stay on this plan if they so wish whilst others who preferred their current charging plan now have the choice to remain on this plan until the end of July 2017.

Coopaloop

Not sure if this will help you but greyhound were calling door to door a while back, still are doing the rounds in celbridge to get new business, they were offering all 3 bins for 13euro a month (no other charges) for 12 month contract. Now I haven't heard great things about them and reviews I read online were not good so I rang Thorntons and told them what they offered and they matched it straight away, no questions asked, no messing about.
Told a few friends and same thing with them.
Worth a shot.

Buffman

The Goverment clarified the situation today, from July fixed price contracts will be phased out, you'll have to be either pay per lift or pay by weight.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0627/886009-waste-charges/

A ban on fixed-price waste collection is being introduced by the Government to encourage recycling and reduce the amount of rubbish.
However, the Opposition has said there are fears it will mean higher bills for households.
Minister for the Environment Denis Naughten has announced the new scheme, to replace the controversial plan for a pay-by-weight system shelved by the Government last year.
Mr Naughten said he decided not to introduce a "compulsory one-size-fits-all per kilogramme charging system".
From now on, waste companies will still be allowed to apply standing charges, but they will also have to contain a usage element such as pay-by-weight or pay per lift.
The change is believed to affect up to 600,000 customers, mainly in the Dublin area, who pay a fixed monthly fee, sometimes around €17 a month, for all waste collection.
All new customers and those renewing their contracts after 1 July will have to take up the new system.

Joe Public

AES announced there will be no changes to their current service, I don't know if that only applies to existing customers or all.

I wonder what the rest are planning or not planning and if pay by weight then what are the charges?

n97 mini

Coopaloop wrote: »

Not sure if this will help you but greyhound were calling door to door a while back, still are doing the rounds in celbridge to get new business, they were offering all 3 bins for 13euro a month (no other charges) for 12 month contract. Now I haven't heard great things about them and reviews I read online were not good so I rang Thorntons and told them what they offered and they matched it straight away, no questions asked, no messing about.
Told a few friends and same thing with them.
Worth a shot.

It's 15.50 in Leixlip so unlikey it was 13 euro in Celbridge. I signed up. Very happy with the service. If you got Thorntons to do it for 13 though, you're onto a winner!

WishUWereHere

Buffman wrote: »

The Goverment clarified the situation today, from July fixed price contracts will be phased out, you'll have to be either pay per lift or pay by weight.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0627/886009-waste-charges/

Already they are shifting the goal posts - July 1 has been pushed back to September 1 ( heard it on RTE radio 1 this evening).

Can see this becoming another Irish Water fiasco.

Buffman

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Already they are shifting the goal posts - July 1 has been pushed back to September 1 ( heard it on RTE radio 1 this evening).

Can see this becoming another Irish Water fiasco.

Yep, seems even that September date isn't written in stone. The whole situation appears very much to be 'make it up as you go along' at this stage.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/0629/886537-waste-charges/

However, the minister’s spokesperson said this afternoon that the department first has to prepare a circular over the next couple of weeks setting out the policy change.
Then the National Waste Collection Permit Office, the NWCPO, will review the new policy before writing to the waste companies.
Time will also be given to these companies to change their administrative systems and to notify customers.
"This process would probably fall into September. It is at this point that the regulatory flat-rate phase-out on expiring contract or new contracts would take effect," the spokesperson said.

Coopaloop

n97 mini wrote: »

It's 15.50 in Leixlip so unlikey it was 13 euro in Celbridge. I signed up. Very happy with the service. If you got Thorntons to do it for 13 though, you're onto a winner![/quote

Yup, €13 for the 3 bins. Greyhound were offering that price to push Thorntons out of the market and Thorntons matched. Fail to see how it's unlikely??? Thorntons wanted to keep the business, and they did. I know plenty of people who got the same deal too.
Very glad I called and got that price and didn't switch to Greyhound, our next door neighbours bin that was meant to be collected yesterday is still waiting to be collected from them.

n97 mini

Coopaloop wrote: »

n97 mini wrote: »

It's 15.50 in Leixlip so unlikey it was 13 euro in Celbridge. I signed up. Very happy with the service. If you got Thorntons to do it for 13 though, you're onto a winner![/quote

Yup, €13 for the 3 bins. Greyhound were offering that price to push Thorntons out of the market and Thorntons matched. Fail to see how it's unlikely???

Dunno why they'd offer 15.50 in Leixlip and 13.00 in Celbridge is all.

As I said, switched to Greyhound in Leixlip a few months back, and can't fault them so far.