Whats the best price for oil at the moment

cubix

Picked up 5ltrs of Castrol semi syn 10/40 (white tub) in atlantic for €28. Anyone know who supplys halfords with their own brand.

CJhaughey

Is that GTX Car oil?
You need to be careful running car oil in bikes with wet clutches, there is stuff in car oils that can make the clutch slip.
I would always use motorcycle specific oil, generally Motul 5100.
Its false economy to try and save a money on the wrong oil when it might cost you a clutch rebuild.
Louis sell their own brand motorcycle oil at 26 for 4 litres postage is 10 euro but if you get some other stuff it isn't that bad.
They have a special atm on 10w40 25 for 5 litres

cubix

Not really sure to be honest but most likely is, anyone know if a 2002 deauville runs a wet clutch. This is the piece of a site with regards to oil change for a deauville

"Virtually any semi synthetic oil will do provided it is in the 10w-40 range. You can spend a fortune on so-called specialist oils but by far the most important aspect is regular changes and level checks. Fully synthetic is fine, too"

http://www.elsham.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deauville/oil-and-filter/

thecivvie

cubix wrote: »

Not really sure to be honest but most likely is, anyone know if a 2002 deauville runs a wet clutch. This is the piece of a site with regards to oil change for a deauville

"Virtually any semi synthetic oil will do provided it is in the 10w-40 range. You can spend a fortune on so-called specialist oils but by far the most important aspect is regular changes and level checks. Fully synthetic is fine, too"

http://www.elsham.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deauville/oil-and-filter/

I think he means a 10w-40 motorcycle oil, yeah there are expensive motorcycle oils but any semi synthetic motorcycle oil which means the standard will do. I changed mine to a Motul 10w-40 and she is running fine. Look after the engine in a Deauville and they will last

Are you on the site as the same user name?

cubix

Thought I already posted this but also found this:


CLUTCH -
OIL INFO There is a specific test for oils to determine wet clutch compatibility, it is shown by the marking "JASO-MA" on the container somewhere (not to be confused with JASO-MB which is for 2-stroke if I remember correctly) Car oils are not tested for JASO-MA compliance, though that's not to say they won't be OK, just that they haven't been tested. If it says JASO-MA on the tin, it'll be OK

CJhaughey

Deauville has a wet clutch.
That GTX is designed for older high mileage car engines IIRC.
Bike oil is pretty highly stressed stuff, its not just wet clutch its also that the gearbox is also running in the same oil, this means that the oil is also subject to shearing, basically the oil is being chopped up as well.
Car oil will do if you are stuck, but longterm its not going to be good for your engine.

cubix

Cheers CJ, think I will order some oil as suggested of that site as I am going to change out both the gearbox and shaft drive oil while I am at it. I know its been mentioned before but are after market filters that bad. I havent priced it yet but will give honda a shout regading oil filter.

byrnem31

Cotters in Ballymount has a huge drum of oil. If you bring your own gallon can he will fill it for €20 or €5 a litre which is fairly cheap.
Its a good quality motorcycle oil too that I use for the Fazer.

cubix

Good to know

Hotblack Desiato

cubix wrote: »

Cheers CJ, think I will order some oil as suggested of that site as I am going to change out both the gearbox and shaft drive oil while I am at it. I know its been mentioned before but are after market filters that bad. I havent priced it yet but will give honda a shout regading oil filter.

Pretty sure the DV shares the engine oil with the gearbox, the only bikes I'm aware of which don't are 2-strokes but they don't have engine oil as such!

In the car world it's usual to have separate engine and (thicker) gearbox oil, the main ones which didn't were the Mini and the other BL 70s-80s front wheel drive cars derived from them. Running engine oil through the gearbox is harder on the oil as the pressures between gear teeth tend to shear up the additives which give the oil it's multigrade properties - in other words the oil will thin out too much when hot if you leave it in too long. This is much less of a problem with synthetic oils as they don't need 'viscosity improvers' as much as the cheaper mineral-based oils do. I used to run mineral oil in a CBR600 (and did over 60,000 miles on that bike from new) but changed it twice as often as recommended, if I'd been running synth oil I'd have doubled the mileage before oil changes. Cost is not all that different either way.

cubix

Grand, car oil gone back, new oil to be got.

Wossack

Ive used motorcycleshop.ie a few times now - would recommend

they're the online shop for Lee's in Cork. Free postage for orders over 49e

db330

cubix wrote: »

Anyone know who supplys halfords with their own brand.

It was mobil a few years ago so i would assume it is still is, There oil seems to be decent stuff (not the cheapest around though) I run liquimoly in the cars (get it form a trade place so cheaper) and use rock oil in the bike. I wouldn't be afraid to use halfords but last time i checked they didn't do fully syn stuff for bikes and i'm not gonna use semi in my race bike but I will when I get my street bike.