What do you define as "Football"

St.Spodo

I've never once called anything that isn't Association Football ''football''.

K-9

Football in Ireland is Gaelic, simple as.

Soccer is well, Soccer.

monkeysnapper

GLaDOS

Never heard anyone use football to describe Rugby before.

MungBean

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Never heard anyone use football to describe Rugby before.

IRFU = Irish Rugby Football Union.

You often hear players called good footballers when discussing their kicking game too.

entropi

The GAA have football. There are sports from other countries with their own versions (soccer in England, American football/Gridiron in America, Aussie Rules football in Australia). I just call rugby by that name alone, rugby.

I know some that will call rugby, hand-egg though.

DannyKing

i call it gay

Sindri

Master of Nothing wrote: »

The GAA have football. There are sports from other countries with their own versions (soccer in England, American football/Gridiron in America, Aussie Rules football in Australia). I just call rugby by that name alone, rugby.

I know some that will call rugby, hand-egg though.

I call rugby egg ball, hurling stick ball and football soccerball.

irishmover

grenache

Where I reside, "football" most definitely refers to Gaelic football. And then you have soccer.

I see nothing wrong with calling the game soccer, which of course is only short for 'association football' anyway.

grenache

K-9 wrote: »

Football in Dublin is Gaelic, simple as.

Soccer is well, Soccer.

FYP

44leto

Football is game with a cultural local meaning, professional soccer is a game played with a football by 2 opposing bunches of millionaires representing a PLC.

cournioni

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Depends where you live IMO.


Ireland - Football = GAA

Rest of the world - Football = Soccer

This.

LordSutch

Football = Association Football = Soccer.

Personally I hate the term 'soccer' so I always call it Football or Footie.

summerskin

44leto wrote: »

Football is game with a cultural local meaning, professional soccer is a game played with a football by 2 opposing bunches of millionaires representing a PLC.

Oh of course, because the only football is played in the premier league etc.!!!

If you want cultural local meaning come and watch an Oldham Athletic game along with me and 3000 others who have followed their team through thick and thin(mostly thin) for decades.

Football is association football. The rest are Just little localised games.

cournioni

summerskin wrote: »

Oh of course, because the only football is played in the premier league etc.!!!

If you want cultural local meaning come and watch an Oldham Athletic game along with me and 3000 others who have followed their team through thick and thin(mostly thin) for decades.

Football is association football. The rest are Just little localised games.

Association Football is soccer. GAA is where the football is at.

44leto

summerskin wrote: »

Oh of course, because the only football is played in the premier league etc.!!!

If you want cultural local meaning come and watch an Oldham Athletic game along with me and 3000 others who have followed their team through thick and thin(mostly thin) for decades.

Football is association football. The rest are Just little localised games.

I agree, there a millions and million of kids worldwide playing soccer in local leagues or just kick abouts, it is the world game.

It is just something is lost in the premierships of the world, I don't think these clubs represent their fan base anymore. I am a liverpool head, but when I followed them, passionately, there was the Liverpool Irish tradition, you had Irish players and players from Liverpool. There was a connection.

Although Liverpool is fooked and will soon be on par with Oldham athletic unless someone invests in them big-time, it has still lost something. The huge wages, the sponsorship deals, the pay per view, the ticket prices, I think now there is now 1 player on the team who is from Liverpool. Its a money racket, with little heart.

I no longer feel a connection, its as I said one bunch of playboy millionaires representing a PLC VERSUS another bunch of playboy millionaires representing another PLC.

I'm a Dublin man now, I always was a big GAA fan, but more so now. I even go to the hurling matches now.

fryup

go to 1.40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQblXFrzlnk

Seanchai

summerskin wrote: »

Football is association football. The rest are Just little localised games.

Spoken like somebody from England who has the misfortune to be stuck among the natives of another country who don't share his British nationalistic views. First it was the Irish language, now you're hostile to Irish sporting culture. Why bother even moving here if you can't stand anything about us that does not derive from England?

fryup

Seanchai wrote: »

Spoken like somebody from England who has the misfortune to be stuck among the natives of another country who don't share his British nationalistic views. First it was the Irish language, now you're hostile to Irish sporting culture. Why bother even moving here if you can't stand anything about us that does not derive from England?

spoken like someone who has a chip on his shoulder regards everthing english/british

you're a shinner i take it

py2006

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Depends where you live IMO.


Ireland - Football = GAA

Rest of the world - Football = Soccer

Speak for yourself.

You hold the ball with your hands in GAA so it can't be referred to as football!

SEPT 23 1989

Who says Soccer?

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Football = Association Football = Soccer.

Personally I hate the term 'soccer' so I always call it Football or Footie.

Well, this is a surprise - mar dhea: like all good British nationalists, Lord Sutch "hates" when people don't call soccer "football".

It was such great fun watching the aforementioned go off the wall on the Wikipedia talk page a few years back because their game couldn't get the article title "Football" and had to be under the name "Association Football".

Oh the little things that annoy them as regularly as clockwork.

fryup

Seanchai wrote: »

Oh the little things that annoy them as regularly as clockwork.

but you're the only one who seems to be annoyed..take a look at the poll the vast majority refer to soccer as football and this is an irish website so there:p

Ellis Dee

It's a game for men with bigger balls than golfers.:):)

Ghost Buster

Games of ritualised violence which could be easily avoided by giving the teams a ball each.

44leto

Seanchai wrote: »

summerskin wrote: »

Spoken like somebody from England who has the misfortune to be stuck among the natives of another country who don't share his British nationalistic views. First it was the Irish language, now you're hostile to Irish sporting culture. Why bother even moving here if you can't stand anything about us that does not derive from England?

Read post 68 in this thread, I am Irish but like all us Irish we have British cultural connections, like it or lump it, but there is no getting away from it, as I type this in English knowing you will understand. I am just one of those is not nationalistic, I am proud of that, I have the view people are people and history is history. Its now that counts.

speeding

football is soccer simple as

py2006

That GAA game should be called Hand/Foot ball.

AngryBollix

Handball in France

Ghost Buster

py2006 wrote: »

That GAA game should be called Hand/Foot ball.

...and soccer = head/chest/knee/foot ball?;)

Mars Bar

This picture never gets old.

http://www.eatliver.com/img/2009/3849.jpg

44leto

Ghost Buster wrote: »

...and soccer = head/chest/knee/foot ball?;)

And diving and crying like a girl.

Seanchai

fryup wrote: »

you're a shinner i take it

:rolleyes:


Let's reply in the same retarded manner:

1) You're a West Brit, I take it?

2) I'm a "Shinner" if you mean the post-Rising British label put on all those who want an end to British rule. Although that definition, as much as you evidently dislike it, makes the vast majority of Irish people "Shinners". I suspect your historical awareness is not that nuanced, however.

3) Anyday of any week, I'd rather be a "Shinner" than a West Brit. Any day. That includes Provos, Stickies, Commies and all other types of "Shinners" since 1916.

44leto

Seanchai wrote: »

:rolleyes:


Let's reply in the same retarded manner:

1) You're a West Brit, I take it?

2) I'm a "Shinner" if you mean the post-Rising British label put on all those who want an end to British rule. Although that definition, as much as you evidently dislike it, makes the vast majority of Irish people "Shinners". I suspect your historical awareness is not that nuanced, however.

3) Anyday of any week, I'd rather be a "Shinner" than a West Brit. Any day. That includes Provos, Stickies, Commies and all other types of "Shinners" since 1916.

But does it have to be very retarded.

py2006

Ghost Buster wrote: »

...and soccer = head/chest/knee/foot ball?;)

Nah, Football (the proper one) is mainly played with the foot. It isn't illegal for the ball to hit other parts of the body except the hand.

GAA version has the ball mainly carried in the hands and kicked with the foot to a lesser extent.

I win!

fryup

Seanchai wrote: »

:rolleyes:


Let's reply in the retarded manner:

so you are a shinner

Seomra Mushie

Soccer. I call Gaelic football Gaelic and Rugby Rugby.

Seanchai

44leto wrote: »

But does it have to be very retarded.

Alas, in this case it would seem so:

fryup wrote: »

so you are a shinner

entropi

grenache wrote: »

FYP

Fixed nothing. I'm from Dublin, and call it soccer.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Who says Soccer?

See above.

py2006 wrote: »

That GAA game should be called Hand/Foot ball.

Wouldn't work, since the Gaelic Games already have handball, and football.

Dyr

why don't you go and ask your association...Feefah?

Mickeroo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c

I generally call soccer football and Gaelic either gaelic or gaelic football. Don't watch gaelic though.

Killer Wench

Football = huge, padded men throwing an oval shaped ball and kicking that ball around at odd occasions


Soccer = tiny, little men with big thigh muscles that run around in shorts that fall to the ground in petulant fits at odd occasions

kincsem

Football: an Englishman talking about soccer.

LordSutch

fryup wrote: »

so you are a shinner

Probably is with an attitude like that, but getting back to the Football, I grew up here in south Dublin, and everybody around us called association Football 'Football' we watched match of the day, and we played football in Blackrock park, I even played with Paul McGrath for a while (never any mention of soccer), I played football with my school team, and we called it football too, simple as! GAA football never really registered on our radar, and I think I was in my mid 20s when I became aware of Gaa football, this is my personal experience in the 70s & 80s.

Surely there is a Gaelic/Irish term for the Gaa game, instead of the very English term Football?

Mickeroo

Killer Wench wrote: »

Football = huge, fat, padded men throwing an oval shaped ball and kicking that ball around at odd occasions


Soccer = tiny, little fit, athletic men with big thigh muscles that run around in shorts that fall to the ground in petulant fits at odd occasions

fyp

Seanchai

kincsem wrote: »

Football: an Englishman talking about soccer.

This.

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Probably is with an attitude like that, but getting back to the Football, I grew up here in south Dublin, and everybody around us called association Football 'Football' we watched match of the day, and we played football in Blackrock park, I even played with Paul McGrath for a while (never any mention of soccer), I played football with my school team, and we called it football too, simple as! GAA football never really registered on our radar, and I think I was in my mid 20s when I became aware of Gaa football, this is my personal experience in the 70s & 80s.

Surely there is a Gaelic/Irish term for the Gaa game, instead of the very English term Football?

Judging by your pointedly very British nationalist posts - particularly one today where you're wondering (mar dhea) what 'Seachtain na Gaeilge' means - I doubt the veracity of your "I'm Irish" claim, although asking the question was of course part of your political purpose here.

At any rate, you're not going to like the bolded part:

'football
open-air game, first recorded c.1400; see foot + ball (1). Forbidden in a Scottish statute of 1424. The first reference to the ball itself is late 15c. Figurative sense of "something idly kicked around" is first recorded 1530s. Ball-kicking games date back to the Roman legions, at least, but the sport seems to have risen to a national obsession in England, c.1630. Rules first regularized at Cambridge, 1848; soccer (q.v.) split off in 1863. The U.S. style (known to some in England as "stop-start rugby with padding") evolved gradually 19c.; the first true collegiate game is considered to have been played Nov. 6, 1869, between Princeton and Rutgers, at Rutgers, but the rules there were more like soccer. A rematch at Princeton Nov. 13, with the home team's rules, was true U.S. football. The earliest recorded application of the word football to this is from 1881.'

Source: Online Etymology Dictionary

In other words, soccer split from football and is now just one of the many types of football played in the world. Indeed, as has been pointed out here before the above Cambridge Rules which were the basis for the game of soccer which was invented in 1863 was much more like Gaelic Football than it was like soccer, allowing as it did use of the hands. To put this another way: what was known as "football" in England prior to the invention of soccer in 1863 was radically different to what became known as "football" following the establishment of Association Football in that year. What sort of true Brit would ignore centuries of British history of what defined "football"? A very nationalistic one, of course.

Killer Wench

Mickeroo wrote: »

fyp

Put that away. Your jealousy is showing.



http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/regggie-bush.jpg

Nom nom nom.

later12

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Depends where you live IMO.


Ireland - Football = GAA

Rest of the world - Football = Soccer

Not at all.

It depends where you live in Ireland as well.

For example, where I come from within Tipperary, hardly anybody plays Gaelic football. The biggest sport is hurling; Gaelic football doesn't feature. Everyone in our primary school used football for the soccer version. It's not just an Irish vs foreign thing, it also depends very much on where you come from within Ireland.