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Meath GAA discussion thread

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    #3752
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Congratulations to Meath.

    A special word of appreciation to Sean Boylan who was a great supporter of Meath Hurling from the beginning of his career.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #3753
    klairondavis
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    Well done Meath! Fantastic result.


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    #3754
    CrabRevolution
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    Smash and grab!

    A great night in store in Trim.


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    #3755
    iDave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    risteard7 wrote: »
    Hate to say it but Antrim will win by 10+

    Oops!

    Hurling eh! What a sport.

    Meath players and fans (who turned up) did themselves proud.


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    #3756
    iDave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    OK talk of it actually being a draw.

    The scoreboard operator was having a mare. Originally put the Dublin logo up for us and took a while for some Antrim scores to get recorded. Assumed it was sorted by the end.

    2010 all over again.


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    #3757
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    iDave wrote: »
    OK talk of it actually being a draw.

    The scoreboard operator was having a mare. Originally put the Dublin logo up for us and took a while for some Antrim scores to get recorded. Assumed it was sorted by the end.

    2010 all over again.

    any louth supporters acting suspiciously after the first game did ye notice? anyway if the ref has it down as a draw it dosent matter what the scoreboard says


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    #3758
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Brilliant!

    Congrats from this hurling Dub.


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    #3759
    rpurfield
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    iDave wrote: »
    OK talk of it actually being a draw.

    The scoreboard operator was having a mare. Originally put the Dublin logo up for us and took a while for some Antrim scores to get recorded. Assumed it was sorted by the end.

    2010 all over again.

    It seems that Antrim are going to get a copy of the game and go through it before deciding to appeal. It seemed a bit all over the place on TG4 too, be interesting to know what the referee had in.

    Great display to fight back anyway, the lads should be really proud of themselves.


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    #3760
    Davys Fits
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    Great win. Some impressive high fielding and well taken scores. Meath look like a very strong and fit team. Welcome to big time hurling.


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    #3761
    Hammer Archer
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    Why can't we seem to win a final in Croker without controversy? I'll be honest, there were a few times that I got confused about the score during the game. I really hope that the score was correct. What unbelievable fight from the team to come back. Great atmosphere from the Meath crowd and they showed the never say die attitude that has forsaken the footballers.

    Unfortunately, if the score was incorrect (and personally I think it was), it's completely different to the Leinster final and a replay will probably be ordered.


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    #3762
    Davys Fits
    Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    This error is no fault of Meath or Antrim for that matter. Its solely and not for the first time the Gaa's fault. Clare poeople are still to this day bitter over the replay that took place in 98 to have them knocked out and arguably loose an Allireland due to a referees error.
    I really do feel a replay is out of the question now with cups and speeches and celebrations etc. Would allowing Antrim into the Liam McCarty next year instead of playing a replay be a solution? I know it has a knock on effect for next years competitions but is there any other other way around this mess bar a replay?


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    #3763
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Anyone know where I could rewatch it? I see it's not on the TG4 website yet.
    But surely the referee would keep note of the score and not rely on the scoreboard. Whoever was on scoreboard must have been on the sauce. Dublin crest beside "An Mhí" and there were more than a few times that a score for one team was marked for the other.


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    #3764
    ultrapercy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Davys Fits wrote: »
    This error is no fault of Meath or Antrim for that matter. Its solely and not for the first time the Gaa's fault. Clare poeople are still to this day bitter over the replay that took place in 98 to have them knocked out and arguably loose an Allireland due to a referees error.
    I really do feel a replay is out of the question now with cups and speeches and celebrations etc. Would allowing Antrim into the Liam McCarty next year instead of playing a replay be a solution? I know it has a knock on effect for next years competitions but is there any other other way around this mess bar a replay?

    No there is no other way around it except a replay. If the scores are found to be level Meath have the cup in error (through no fault of their own). For the integrity of the competition it needs to be replayer.


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    #3765
    theoneeyedman
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    Hammer Archer wrote: »
    Anyone know where I could rewatch it? I see it's not on the TG4 website yet.
    But surely the referee would keep note of the score and not rely on the scoreboard. Whoever was on scoreboard must have been on the sauce. Dublin crest beside "An Mhí" and there were more than a few times that a score for one team was marked for the other.
    Absolutely, the public scoreboard should be irrelevant. Many people would be keeping the score, but the ref is the only one that matters. Are you telling me with team statisticians that the two teams didn't know the proper score I real time??


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    #3766
    westernfrenzy
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    Wasn't there a Meath score that was given wide? Could that have been added in eventually?


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    #3767
    paul71
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    If there is a replay I want it brought to the home of hurling, Trim!


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    #3768
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Whole match is up on the TG4 website if anyone wants to do some detective work.


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    #3769
    Kristopherus
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    ultrapercy wrote: »
    No there is no other way around it except a replay. If the scores are found to be level Meath have the cup in error (through no fault of their own). For the integrity of the competition it needs to be replayer.

    But if the ref reports the result as 2-18 to 1-20, is that not sacrosanct anymore?


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    #3770
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    theoneeyedman wrote: »
    Absolutely, the public scoreboard should be irrelevant. Many people would be keeping the score, but the ref is the only one that matters. Are you telling me with team statisticians that the two teams didn't know the proper score I real time??


    You are the talk of the country anyway!

    I was talking to a ref here and he told me that any inter county ref would be keeping his own score and not following the scoreboard, and that is the official result, and that he'd be very surprised if result is over turned. I hope it is not anyway. Good luck.


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    #3771
    CrabRevolution
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    I've a feeling the ref's scorekeeping and the scoreboard are just 2 separate mistakes within the same match.

    Sean Heavey took a shot in the 2nd half that was a tough call from where I sat. The umpire waved it wide but had it been waved over it would have been difficult to argue. Is there a chance the referee put it down as a Meath score?


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    #3772
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Just heard on Off the Ball that there is question of ref making an error, to be considered at CCCC meeting on Tuesday.


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    #3773
    paul71
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭paul71


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I've a feeling the ref's scorekeeping and the scoreboard are just 2 separate mistakes within the same match.

    Sean Heavey took a shot in the 2nd half that was a tough call from where I sat. The umpire waved it wide but had it been waved over it would have been difficult to argue. Is there a chance the referee put it down as a Meath score?

    This ^^^^

    I have re-watched the whole game. Antrims score is correct, Meaths score is correct only if the score you spoke about was awarded. I cannot tell from the ref at the time on TV if he had awarded it or not.


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    #3774
    whatnext
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭whatnext


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I've a feeling the ref's scorekeeping and the scoreboard are just 2 separate mistakes within the same match.

    Sean Heavey took a shot in the 2nd half that was a tough call from where I sat. The umpire waved it wide but had it been waved over it would have been difficult to argue. Is there a chance the referee put it down as a Meath score?

    This could be a get out of jail free card for the ref, Croke Park and the GAA


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    #3775
    paul71
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭paul71


    whatnext wrote: »
    This could be a get out of jail free card for the ref, Croke Park and the GAA

    No question of a get out of jail free card. He either marked it as a score in his notebook at the time or didn't. The scoreboard at the match or on TV is irrelevent only the referees notebook matters.


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    #3776
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    RTE News Now is running a ticker that says the ref has admitted a mistake. That throws another spanner in the works:(.


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    #3777
    whatnext
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭whatnext


    paul71 wrote: »
    No question of a get out of jail free card. He either marked it as a score in his notebook at the time or didn't. The scoreboard at the match or on TV is irrelevent only the referees notebook matters.

    While what you are saying is true, if he made an error on the day that incident could make a retrospective entry!! Hopefully it is a case that he gave that score and this can be put to bed quickly.

    What ever happens I really hope it's done swiftly and decisively.


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    #3778
    whatnext
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭whatnext


    Has there been any statement from HQ or are they gone into hiding?


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    #3779
    paul71
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭paul71


    whatnext wrote: »
    While what you are saying is true, if he made an error on the day that incident could make a retrospective entry!! Hopefully it is a case that he gave that score and this can be put to bed quickly.

    What ever happens I really hope it's done swiftly and decisively.

    Official welcome here in Trim at 7pm tonight, this will be serious dampener on the mood I suspect.


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    #3780
    padd b1975
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    paul71 wrote: »
    Official welcome here in Trim at 7pm tonight, this will be serious dampener on the mood I suspect.

    Jesus Christ!

    Have the powers that be any shame whatsoever??

    Unbelievable disrespect to Antrim.


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    #3781
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ!

    Have the powers that be any shame whatsoever??

    Unbelievable disrespect to Antrim.
    So what are they meant to do? Leave it for the GAA to decide which could take over a week? The fact is they were presented with the trophy yesterday and have every right to celebrate it. This farce has come about through no fault of the Meath players or fans so they should be allowed celebrate.


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