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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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    #422
    the culture of deference
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    koth wrote: »
    "did smite" is past tense due to the inclusion of the word "did".

    You can correctly use "did smite" or "smote", but not "did smote".

    /pedant-bandwagon-hopping :P

    3 peds, FFS

    did smote is perfectly acceptable.


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    #423
    Banbh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    Smite, smote. Write, wrote,
    Did write, did smite: good.
    Did smote, did wrote: bad.
    Stay in after school and write out the first chapter of the catechism.


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    #424
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    God doesn't seem to do a lot of smiting/smoting/whatever since the Old Testament. What gives? Did he chillax after Jesus or what?


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    #425
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    lazygal wrote: »
    God doesn't seem to do a lot of smiting/smoting/whatever since the Old Testament. What gives? Did he chillax after Jesus or what?

    Sex with Mary seems to have had a calming effect on him :pac:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #426
    the culture of deference
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    Banbh wrote: »
    Smite, smote. Write, wrote,
    Did write, did smite: good.
    Did smote, did wrote: bad.
    Stay in after school and write out the first chapter of the catechism.

    Feel like I am in the Monty Python life of brian :pac:

    ROMANES EUNT DOMUS








    anyway




    "In the first pass the Sheriff did smote the knight upon the shield, and both did break their spears. In the second pass the Sheriff did smote the knight upon the shield, and both did break their spears. Some few insults were exchanged, and enraged, Sir Lancelot did make a third pass, and smote the Sheriff upon the shield, and both did break their spears."

    Book of Mormon

    And it came to pass that he did exhort them with many other fine oratories, insomuch that they were swollen with valor, and Damscopus did nail the flag to the mast, and they did fall upon their enemies and did smote them hip and thigh from sunrise until the going down thereof, and they did slew forty-two hundred thousand, and when morning came there were a good many dead, yea, verily, those who had died the day before!

    [SIZE=+1]Qur'an [/SIZE][16:34]
    So that the evils of what they did smote them, and there besieged them that which they used to mock.

    Disagree you infadels


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    #427
    the culture of deference
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    koth wrote: »
    Sex with Mary seems to have had a calming effect on him :pac:

    She was preggers at 12 years old! Says a lot about the church really


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    #428
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,397 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    the culture of deference wrote: »
    Disagree you infadels
    "Infidels".

    Stop digging, culture of deference!


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    #429
    mambo
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭mambo


    "Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
    http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

    This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

    Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:


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    #430
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    mambo wrote: »
    "Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
    http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

    This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

    Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:

    Joining the dots Iona style, kids in care mean broken families, probably due to divorce, working mothers or unmarried parents. :rolleyes:


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    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mambo wrote: »
    "Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
    http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

    This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

    Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:

    Hmmmm. That amendment to the constituion about childrens rights etc - I think they were against that as they said it allowed state intervention or some such....


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    #432
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Has it finally dawned on the patrons that unborn tiiiiiineeeee baaaaaaaabieeeees are born and maybe they need to care about them too?


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    #433
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lazygal wrote: »
    Has it finally dawned on the patrons that unborn tiiiiiineeeee baaaaaaaabieeeees are born and maybe they need to care about them too?

    Fuck no. What I said above, plus them going "the state failed people in their care too, nyahhh".


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    #434
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Nodin wrote: »
    Fuck no. What I said above, plus them going "the state failed people in their care too, nyahhh".

    How can they spin this to show gay marriage will only make things worse?


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    #435
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lazygal wrote: »
    How can they spin this to show gay marriage will only make things worse?


    Men deserting the wimmin & childer to take up the "gay lifestyle"?


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    robindch
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    mambo wrote: »
    "Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
    The Tooters should support gay marriage then. If there's not going to be any kids in such a marriage, that means that none of them are available to be parked in HSE care on account of the dreadful parenting offered by two people of the same sex, then shouldn't that cut down on the number of deaths in the HSE?

    Stands to reason, that does. Somebody tell Quinn!


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    #437
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    'Reason' and 'David Quinn' occupy two very different spaces.


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    #438
    Bobby42
    Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bobby42


    They only mention deaths in state care to try and deflect away from the abuse scandals in the catholic church.

    They really couldn't care less about children.


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    #439
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,643 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If the likes of the Iona Institute and their fellow travellers didn't so vigorously oppose early intervention by the State where parents are neglectful or abusive, we would have fewer deeply troubled, suicidal, drink/drugs abusing teenagers entering care later. Then they use the results of the policies they support as a stick to beat the state with.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #440
    Sierra 117
    Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    lazygal wrote: »
    'Reason' and 'David Quinn' occupy two very different spaces.

    And both spaces orbit two different planets.


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    #441
    Doctor Strange
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Doctor Strange


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    And both spaces orbit two different planets.

    At opposite ends of the unobservable Universe.


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    #442
    Galvasean
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Hmmmm. That amendment to the constituion about childrens rights etc - I think they were against that as they said it allowed state intervention or some such....

    They were very much against it.

    Actually, it's exactly as Ninja900 describes it.


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    #443
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    God love him, he's very sensitive....
    Following legal issues between Trinity College’s student newspaper, the University Times, and David Quinn of the Iona Institute the College Tribune now understands that matters have arisen between Quinn and Trinity News, who have received legal letters owing to their coverage of the affair.
    Trinity News published an article in issue 7 of their paper in which they stated that the University Times had been threatened with legal action by the founder of the Iona Institute, David Quinn. This arose following the publication of two articles by the University Times that directly confronted the line of argumentation used by the Iona Institute in an online video entitled ‘The Case for Man/Woman Marriage’.
    http://www.collegetribune.ie/index.php/2013/04/trinity-news-falls-foul-of-quinn/


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    #444
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    FFS is he still butthurt over that?


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    #445
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sarky wrote: »
    FFS is he still butthurt over that?


    Yep. It must be the second cheek now as somebody else said something similar.


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    #446
    legspin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    Sarky wrote: »
    FFS is he still butthurt over that?
    He secretly loves it.


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    #447
    the culture of deference
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference




    In a reply, which was published in the University Times on 12th February, Quinn accused Trinity News of “dismissing” his concerns in relation to the articles, namely that the University Times had defamed him by effectively describing him as “a racist” who had “formed a ‘bigoted hate group’”.


    Definition of BIGOT

    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance


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    #448
    Doctor Strange
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Doctor Strange


    the culture of deference wrote: »


    In a reply, which was published in the University Times on 12th February, Quinn accused Trinity News of “dismissing” his concerns in relation to the articles, namely that the University Times had defamed him by effectively describing him as “a racist” who had “formed a ‘bigoted hate group’”.


    Definition of BIGOT

    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    Both cases should be laughed out of court. This being the land of blasphemy laws though, I wouldn't be 100% confident on that


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    #449
    SebBerkovich
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    Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »
    Both cases should be laughed out of court. This being the land of blasphemy laws though, I wouldn't be 100% confident on that

    Please, Please, PLEASE let them try and enforce the blasphemy law... i'd love to see the shít storm that kicks up :D


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    #450
    Banbh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    We could try and provoke a case. The official Catholic Church is far too clever to take a blasphemer to court and though Islam is always quick to take offence, a complaint from that quarter would go off track very quickly into discussion on racism, immigration and 'community' rights.

    What is needed is some fundamentalist Christian - maybe the US-backed crazies or the right-to-life people - to make a case. In any way, I suspect getting the Gardaí to act on a complaint might be met with 'O right so. We'll have a look into that. Thanks for calling'.

    The blasphemy law wasn't so much an Irish solution to an Irish problem as an Irish solution to a non-problem.


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    #451
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    David Quinn seems stupid enough to goad into it. Not that I'd endorse or condone such behavior, of course.


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