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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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    #812
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/rte-should-get-over-the-liberal-agenda-its-why-conservatives-like-me-get-less-airtime-30278935.html


    RTE only lets poor Dav on every 6-8 weeks.


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    #813
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,642 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    RTE has a conservative, pro-religion bias. Who does he think he's fooling?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #814
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    In other words, when conservatives like me are on radio or television we are simply obstacles to the public coming around to the 'correct' point of view more quickly. Perhaps this explains why for the last few years I'm only on RTE every six to eight weeks.

    What an entitled little ****. What possible right has the Iona 'Institute' to be invited onto the national broadcaster at all - never mind on such a regular basis? Nobody elected them. Who do they represent? Why can't I be on RTE? Surely I'm just as entitled?

    They, at the very least, represent the extremist religious views of those paymasters they refuse to identify, why are RTE not investigating them rather than letting them spout their rubbish on such a frequent basis?


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    #815
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Sounds like he's Xeroxed Watersesque style of whinging.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #816
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,606 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    lazygal wrote: »
    RTE only lets poor Dav on every 6-8 weeks.
    Lol, just followed the email notification without checking the thread title, and was wondering when the hell Dav had been on RTE

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    #817
    ShooterSF
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    lazygal wrote: »
    http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/rte-should-get-over-the-liberal-agenda-its-why-conservatives-like-me-get-less-airtime-30278935.html


    RTE only lets poor Dav on every 6-8 weeks.


    Good lad David! And sure it's been forever since RTE gave airtime to people who want the blacks out too! They shouldn't try and push their liberal agenda of equality by silencing bigots. Bigots deserve a voice too!


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    #818
    Banbh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    A representative of the A+A forum (a mod or regular contributor) could usefully offer hisserself as a person representative of the A+A view to RTE. I imagine there are broad-minded producers who would welcome such a viewpoint and, to be blunt, Atheist Ireland appears to be a one-man outfit. He does an excellent job but other voices are also needed.

    Sometimes people complain about lack of airtime when all they have to do is ask. You can bet that the Iona Institute is constantly bombarding the press with statements, comments and offers of speakers.

    Of course, RTE is dominated by Catholic societies - their leading commentator was the Opus Dei man in college (UCG) - but there are others who are not under the clerical thumb.

    Better to light a candle than sit in the dark thinking about lighting a candle - with apologies to Buddha or whoever.


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    #819
    PopePalpatine
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    Can we nominate Banna? I'd love to see Quinn get a heart attack when he sees a lesbian who's an atheist!


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    #820
    Turtwig
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    Lads clearly you're not thinking this through. There is one obvious option to nominate:

    oldrnwisr.


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    #821
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Lads clearly you're not thinking this through. There is one obvious option to nominate:

    oldrnwisr.

    Nah, that's overkill. We don't want their heads a-sploding, we just want them to realise the truth.


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    #822
    Banbh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    Are there levels of Modship? One or all of the senior Modpersons should step up. It would be interesting to see if the RTE fish would bite. I suspect that Newstalk would be delighted.


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    #823
    SebBerkovich
    Registered Users Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    I look forward to finding out how much RTE will payout to Quinn after he loses this debate.


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    #824
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Nah, that's overkill. We don't want their heads a-sploding, we just want them to realise the truth.
    Feck that. I'd pay money for oldrnwsr to go "scorched earth" on Quinn!!! :p

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #825
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Banbh wrote: »
    A representative of the A+A forum (a mod or regular contributor) could usefully offer hisserself as a person representative of the A+A view to RTE.
    Probably better have a few people - I can only speak for myself here but with child, work, house and boat (!) -related commitments, not to mention anything related to A+A, I'm down to minutes of free time a week and showing up on telly to batter Quinn's opinions into shape would take some serious time and preparation.


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    #826
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Lads clearly you're not thinking this through. There is one obvious option to nominate:

    oldrnwisr.


    But....at the end of the day, whether they fully realise it or not, their world view is essentially misogynistic and patriarchal. Thus the ideal candidate to give them a hard time would be a woman.


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    #827
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users Posts: 19,219 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    I go off into no internet hinterland for a few days and :eek:..


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    #828
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I go off into no internet hinterland for a few days and :eek:..

    50000394.jpg


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    #829
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    First time I've checked the letters section on independent.ie, spotted this.
    In the comments section on Friday, May 16, David Quinn bemoaned the rise of secularism in RTE over the past few decades.

    To highlight this appalling trend, Quinn borrowed a quote from Helena Sheehan, who claims that some RTE staff "put up a formidable fight to secularise and liberalise programme output". Quite a statement, according to Mr Quinn.

    I wonder if anyone has pointed out to him that secularism is, by its very definition, the lack of religious bias. Mr Quinn is perfectly within his rights to complain about the collapse of the overwhelming conservative bias in Irish public life, but he should at least have the decency to be upfront about it.

    COLM O'MAHONY

    GREYSTONES, CO WICKLOW

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #830
    Nodin
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    Quinn on the homes. Note the focus on the Bethany home, the solitary reference to "the Church", and the conflation of the high infant mortality rate with the even higher rate in the various homes.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/at-some-point-christianity-here-became-more-about-punishment-than-forgiveness-30333644.html


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    #831
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Nodin wrote: »
    Quinn on the homes. Note the focus on the Bethany home, the solitary reference to "the Church", and the conflation of the high infant mortality rate with the even higher rate in the various homes.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/at-some-point-christianity-here-became-more-about-punishment-than-forgiveness-30333644.html

    Jesus Christ!

    For those who don't wish to provide page hits:
    But what about the abuses in the past in England and America?
    Why don't we exist in their delusion of their 1950s self being a beautiful place?
    What about poverty in Africa? Horrible deaths occur there two. Charities can't prevent that.
    What about the protestants in Ireland? They had their own atrocities too.

    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.


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    #832
    Emmaline Immense Formula
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    To be completely and absolutely fair to Mr Quinn. He has encouraged a full investigation.

    (on Newstalk / Pat Kenny yesterday)


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    #833
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,642 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Don't want to click on trash, but I thought at first this was Ruairi Quinn :eek: it is DQ right?


    Criminal investigation, or pseudo-investigation tribunal type waste of time and money that queers the pitch for any possibility of criminal convictions later? by which time any surviving perpetrators will be dead or in the Vatican anyway

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #834
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Jesus Christ!

    For those who don't wish to provide page hits:
    But what about the abuses in the past in England and America?
    Why don't we exist in their delusion of their 1950s self being a beautiful place?
    What about poverty in Africa? Horrible deaths occur there two. Charities can't prevent that.
    What about the protestants in Ireland? They had their own atrocities too.

    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.

    Standard operating procedure for mr.Quinn when this sort of story breaks.

    "you're complaining about failure of religious orders? Look!!! people die in state care too!!"

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #835
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Jesus Christ!

    For those who don't wish to provide page hits:
    But what about the abuses in the past in England and America?
    Why don't we exist in their delusion of their 1950s self being a beautiful place?
    What about poverty in Africa? Horrible deaths occur there two. Charities can't prevent that.
    What about the protestants in Ireland? They had their own atrocities too.

    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.

    But that IS the point of the article, surely. He doesn't seem to realise that can eventually lead to 'So what's the point of having the Church run schools etc if they can offer no better than the rest, and are often a damn site worse?'


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    #836
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,978 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Jesus Christ!

    For those who don't wish to provide page hits:
    But what about the abuses in the past in England and America?
    Why don't we exist in their delusion of their 1950s self being a beautiful place?
    What about poverty in Africa? Horrible deaths occur there two. Charities can't prevent that.
    What about the protestants in Ireland? They had their own atrocities too.

    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.
    i'm just gonna focus on the 800 dead babies in a tank that was used for human excrement for now if you don't mind...let the other countries worry about their own crap.


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    #837
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,561 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Turtwig wrote: »
    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.

    If David Quinn was a doctor and you went in to see him because of a pain in your back, he'd say "Well what about that chest pain you had three years ago? That was just as bad, if not worse!" and then he'd ask you to leave.


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    #838
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Penn wrote: »
    If David Quinn was a doctor and you went in to see him because of a pain in your back, he'd say "Well what about that chest pain you had three years ago? That was just as bad, if not worse!" and then he'd ask you to leave.

    If he was a doctor he'd probably tell you to offer it up and suffer like our Lord for your sins.


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    #839
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Just leave this here
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/


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    #840
    FouxDaFaFa
    Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Nodin wrote: »
    Just leave this here.
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/06/06/the-savage-eye/
    FYP for people who don't get to it before Broadsheet updates.


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    #841
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,547 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Jesus Christ!

    For those who don't wish to provide page hits:
    But what about the abuses in the past in England and America?
    Why don't we exist in their delusion of their 1950s self being a beautiful place?
    What about poverty in Africa? Horrible deaths occur there two. Charities can't prevent that.
    What about the protestants in Ireland? They had their own atrocities too.

    One might be forgiven for pondering what the fck the point of the article was in the first place? It seems to read. Ok, Catholic institutions have done wrong but so too have all these things.

    Also, up to 800 children may have died. Sure we don't know if they were just pretending to be dead or not


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