Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

Ash.J.Williams

Corkfeen wrote: »

It still astonishes me that David Quinn actually gets published in the mainstream press. And it always tends to be absolute rubbish which he produces.

Could be the same reason George Hook and Dunphy are hired too? is he just there to rile people?

keane2097

The "god's plan" argument must be the most inane of the lot. If a god had a plan what sort of plastic joke god would he need to be for me to be able to wreck it by hitting the sperm bank?

If you proved he existed to me I'd probably give him a wedgie, he's clearly a sniveler.

the culture of deference

lazygal wrote: »

Nature is the most efficient and ruthless abortionist of all.

With the development of highly sensitive assays for hCG levels that can detect an early pregnancy even prior to the expected next period (menstruation), researchers have been able to show that around 60% to 70% of all pregnancies (recognized and unrecognized) are lost. Because the loss occurs so early, many miscarriages occur without the woman ever having known she was pregnant.

http://www.medicinenet.com/miscarriage/article.htm

keane2097 wrote: »

The "god's plan" argument must be the most inane of the lot. If a god had a plan what sort of plastic joke god would he need to be for me to be able to wreck it by hitting the sperm bank?

If you proved he existed to me I'd probably give him a wedgie, he's clearly a sniveler.

Gods plan. What a joke

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

kylith

the culture of deference wrote: »

With the development of highly sensitive assays for hCG levels that can detect an early pregnancy even prior to the expected next period (menstruation), researchers have been able to show that around 60% to 70% of all pregnancies (recognized and unrecognized) are lost. Because the loss occurs so early, many miscarriages occur without the woman ever having known she was pregnant.

http://www.medicinenet.com/miscarriage/article.htm



Gods plan. What a joke

I remember hearing something about that; doesn't it boil down to 'just about every time your period has been late you've had a miscarriage'?

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

Yeah, but they were around for 160 million years before he got round to it, so we should be ok for a while.

Bannasidhe

kylith wrote: »

I remember hearing something about that; doesn't it boil down to 'just about every time your period has been late you've had a miscarriage'?

.

That can't possibly be correct...:eek:

kylith

Bannasidhe wrote: »

That can't possibly be correct...:eek:

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

Bannasidhe

kylith wrote: »

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

How very hetro-normative of her.

Pherekydes

kylith wrote: »

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

Even when you're not having sex?

keane2097

Pherekydes wrote: »

Even when you're not having sex?

Toilet seats. Not a myth.

kylith

Bannasidhe wrote: »

How very hetro-normative of her.

You know what Mammys are like. I hate to admit it, but there can be a bit of 'I'm not a bigot, but...' from her.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Even when you're not having sex?

Especially when you're not having sex.

Genghiz Cohen

keane2097 wrote: »

Toilet seats. Not a myth.

That's a myth!

the culture of deference

kylith wrote: »

Yeah, but they were around for 160 million years before he got round to it, so we should be ok for a while.

Ok so petty narcissistic and ........ LAZY :pac:

I have a monty python style scene in my head now.

god in bed and his mother nagging up at him Irish style,
"youv'e been in that bed 160 million years, you can't stay up there forever, now get up and do something about them dino's if it's bothering you so much"

PopePalpatine

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

So THAT is why the gas giants have such fierce storms. :eek:

the culture of deference

PopePalpatine wrote: »

So THAT is why the gas giants have such fierce storms. :eek:

Yea they were all probably stunning planets before he got pissed off and destroyed them all. I reckon if the people who invented religion had known about planets there would be stories like that. ....

And god condemned the planet into a perpetual fiery storm, and he did smote them all.

Galvasean

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

66 [/pedant]

robindch

^^^ That's the spirit!

Hotblack Desiato

the culture of deference wrote: »

and he did smote them all.

did smite them all. Sheesh.

Nice pic though

Turtwig

As long as the dolphins are still in the sea and happily eating fish we're going to be fine.

the culture of deference

2 pedants in 3 posts, whats the odds ..............

Galvasean wrote: »

66 [/pedant]

The space rock that hit Earth 65 million years ago and is widely implicated in the end of the dinosaurs was likely a speeding comet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21709229

ninja900 wrote: »

did smite them all. Sheesh.

Nice pic though

Smote is the past tense of smite

Delirium

the culture of deference wrote: »

2 pedants in 3 posts, whats the odds ..............


The space rock that hit Earth 65 million years ago and is widely implicated in the end of the dinosaurs was likely a speeding comet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21709229

Smote is the past tense of smite

"did smite" is past tense due to the inclusion of the word "did".

You can correctly use "did smite" or "smote", but not "did smote".

/pedant-bandwagon-hopping :P

the culture of deference

koth wrote: »

"did smite" is past tense due to the inclusion of the word "did".

You can correctly use "did smite" or "smote", but not "did smote".

/pedant-bandwagon-hopping :P

3 peds, FFS

did smote is perfectly acceptable.

Banbh

Smite, smote. Write, wrote,
Did write, did smite: good.
Did smote, did wrote: bad.
Stay in after school and write out the first chapter of the catechism.

lazygal

God doesn't seem to do a lot of smiting/smoting/whatever since the Old Testament. What gives? Did he chillax after Jesus or what?

Delirium

lazygal wrote: »

God doesn't seem to do a lot of smiting/smoting/whatever since the Old Testament. What gives? Did he chillax after Jesus or what?

Sex with Mary seems to have had a calming effect on him :pac:

the culture of deference

Banbh wrote: »

Smite, smote. Write, wrote,
Did write, did smite: good.
Did smote, did wrote: bad.
Stay in after school and write out the first chapter of the catechism.

Feel like I am in the Monty Python life of brian :pac:

ROMANES EUNT DOMUS

anyway




"In the first pass the Sheriff did smote the knight upon the shield, and both did break their spears. In the second pass the Sheriff did smote the knight upon the shield, and both did break their spears. Some few insults were exchanged, and enraged, Sir Lancelot did make a third pass, and smote the Sheriff upon the shield, and both did break their spears."

Book of Mormon

And it came to pass that he did exhort them with many other fine oratories, insomuch that they were swollen with valor, and Damscopus did nail the flag to the mast, and they did fall upon their enemies and did smote them hip and thigh from sunrise until the going down thereof, and they did slew forty-two hundred thousand, and when morning came there were a good many dead, yea, verily, those who had died the day before!

[SIZE=+1]Qur'an [/SIZE][16:34]
So that the evils of what they did smote them, and there besieged them that which they used to mock.

Disagree you infadels

the culture of deference

koth wrote: »

Sex with Mary seems to have had a calming effect on him :pac:

She was preggers at 12 years old! Says a lot about the church really

Peregrinus

the culture of deference wrote: »

Disagree you infadels

"Infidels".

Stop digging, culture of deference!

mambo

"Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:

eviltwin

mambo wrote: »

"Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:

Joining the dots Iona style, kids in care mean broken families, probably due to divorce, working mothers or unmarried parents. :rolleyes:

Nodin

mambo wrote: »

"Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"
http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=2855

This is an important issue, but how does it fall within Iona's remit of "The Iona Institute promotes the place of marriage and religion in society. We defend the continued existence of publicly-funded denominational schools. We also promote freedom of conscience and religion."?

Unless Iona's remit also includes HSE-bashing? :rolleyes:

Hmmmm. That amendment to the constituion about childrens rights etc - I think they were against that as they said it allowed state intervention or some such....

lazygal

Has it finally dawned on the patrons that unborn tiiiiiineeeee baaaaaaaabieeeees are born and maybe they need to care about them too?

Nodin

lazygal wrote: »

Has it finally dawned on the patrons that unborn tiiiiiineeeee baaaaaaaabieeeees are born and maybe they need to care about them too?

Fuck no. What I said above, plus them going "the state failed people in their care too, nyahhh".

lazygal

Nodin wrote: »

Fuck no. What I said above, plus them going "the state failed people in their care too, nyahhh".

How can they spin this to show gay marriage will only make things worse?

Nodin

lazygal wrote: »

How can they spin this to show gay marriage will only make things worse?

Men deserting the wimmin & childer to take up the "gay lifestyle"?

robindch

mambo wrote: »

"Number of deaths of children and teenagers in HSE care doubles"

The Tooters should support gay marriage then. If there's not going to be any kids in such a marriage, that means that none of them are available to be parked in HSE care on account of the dreadful parenting offered by two people of the same sex, then shouldn't that cut down on the number of deaths in the HSE?

Stands to reason, that does. Somebody tell Quinn!

lazygal

'Reason' and 'David Quinn' occupy two very different spaces.

Bobby42

They only mention deaths in state care to try and deflect away from the abuse scandals in the catholic church.

They really couldn't care less about children.

Hotblack Desiato

If the likes of the Iona Institute and their fellow travellers didn't so vigorously oppose early intervention by the State where parents are neglectful or abusive, we would have fewer deeply troubled, suicidal, drink/drugs abusing teenagers entering care later. Then they use the results of the policies they support as a stick to beat the state with.

Sierra 117

lazygal wrote: »

'Reason' and 'David Quinn' occupy two very different spaces.

And both spaces orbit two different planets.

Doctor Strange

Sierra 117 wrote: »

And both spaces orbit two different planets.

At opposite ends of the unobservable Universe.

Galvasean

Nodin wrote: »

Hmmmm. That amendment to the constituion about childrens rights etc - I think they were against that as they said it allowed state intervention or some such....

They were very much against it.

Actually, it's exactly as Ninja900 describes it.

Nodin

God love him, he's very sensitive....

Following legal issues between Trinity College’s student newspaper, the University Times, and David Quinn of the Iona Institute the College Tribune now understands that matters have arisen between Quinn and Trinity News, who have received legal letters owing to their coverage of the affair.
Trinity News published an article in issue 7 of their paper in which they stated that the University Times had been threatened with legal action by the founder of the Iona Institute, David Quinn. This arose following the publication of two articles by the University Times that directly confronted the line of argumentation used by the Iona Institute in an online video entitled ‘The Case for Man/Woman Marriage’.

http://www.collegetribune.ie/index.php/2013/04/trinity-news-falls-foul-of-quinn/

Sarky

FFS is he still butthurt over that?

Nodin

Sarky wrote: »

FFS is he still butthurt over that?

Yep. It must be the second cheek now as somebody else said something similar.

legspin

Sarky wrote: »

FFS is he still butthurt over that?

He secretly loves it.

the culture of deference

In a reply, which was published in the University Times on 12th February, Quinn accused Trinity News of “dismissing” his concerns in relation to the articles, namely that the University Times had defamed him by effectively describing him as “a racist” who had “formed a ‘bigoted hate group’”.


Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Doctor Strange

the culture of deference wrote: »

In a reply, which was published in the University Times on 12th February, Quinn accused Trinity News of “dismissing” his concerns in relation to the articles, namely that the University Times had defamed him by effectively describing him as “a racist” who had “formed a ‘bigoted hate group’”.


Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Both cases should be laughed out of court. This being the land of blasphemy laws though, I wouldn't be 100% confident on that

SebBerkovich

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

Both cases should be laughed out of court. This being the land of blasphemy laws though, I wouldn't be 100% confident on that

Please, Please, PLEASE let them try and enforce the blasphemy law... i'd love to see the shít storm that kicks up

Banbh

We could try and provoke a case. The official Catholic Church is far too clever to take a blasphemer to court and though Islam is always quick to take offence, a complaint from that quarter would go off track very quickly into discussion on racism, immigration and 'community' rights.

What is needed is some fundamentalist Christian - maybe the US-backed crazies or the right-to-life people - to make a case. In any way, I suspect getting the Gardaí to act on a complaint might be met with 'O right so. We'll have a look into that. Thanks for calling'.

The blasphemy law wasn't so much an Irish solution to an Irish problem as an Irish solution to a non-problem.

Sarky

David Quinn seems stupid enough to goad into it. Not that I'd endorse or condone such behavior, of course.