Are there Pyjama People in your neighbourhood?

gcgirl

Kolido wrote: »

playpink wrote: »

god forbid.... pyjamas.... ****ing get a life! if it bothers you what others wear ur the backwards knacker,, jesus theres all sorts theese days and im telling ya pyjamas would be the least of it,,,muppets

If it is an outfit then fine, wear what you want. But if it's what they are wearing to bed, then I think it's unhygenic. To wake and not get dressed before you go to a public area, implies that you haven't washed, you are lazy, and you have no self respect. Having said that, it's doesn't bother me as I don't live in an area where it happens, but I, like everyone else on the tread, am entitled to share my opinion.

gcgirl wrote: »

I live in a council estate and no body wears pj's

Not even in bed?

Oh natural

Logical Fallacy

ash23 wrote: »

Surely it's about putting your best foot forward? And I'm not talking designer clothes and immaculate makeup. I'm talking about showing people you have a bit of pride in how you look (and smell) and to show people that you aren't so lazy that you rolled out of bed and into the car. I liken PJ wearers to people who don't put on clean clothes and who have no pride in their apperance. No matter how clean a pair of pyjama bottoms is, you will always look like you are a lazy sod who can't even be bothered getting dressed.

I have to say, i live on a road with one school and two creches and all the yummy mummy type seem to be drop their kids off in their PJ's and many of them seem to pick them up in their PJ's later on in the day.

PJ's and those Ugg boots seem to be a big combo!! Strangely enough these ladies will have taken the time to apply make up and do their hair and stuff.

paddyandy

There is simply no arguing about good or bad taste with the immature or ill-bred .That fact is as old as man-kind .

ash23

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I have to say, i live on a road with one school and two creches and all the yummy mummy type seem to be drop their kids off in their PJ's and many of them seem to pick them up in their PJ's later on in the day.

PJ's and those Ugg boots seem to be a big combo!! Strangely enough these ladies will have taken the time to apply make up and do their hair and stuff.

I have seen mammys at the school gates hiding in their cars in their PJs because they didn't have time to get dressed before the school run which I am more sympathetic about - but they drop and then go home and get dressed and would be mortified if they had to get out of the car.

I haven't see the yummy mummy types but can only assume they do it because they are sheep trying to retain their youth :rolleyes:

Logical Fallacy

ash23 wrote: »

I have seen mammys at the school gates hiding in their cars in their PJs because they didn't have time to get dressed before the school run which I am more sympathetic about - but they drop and then go home and get dressed and would be mortified if they had to get out of the car.

I haven't see the yummy mummy types but can only assume they do it because they are sheep trying to retain their youth :rolleyes:

Not really, i just think it's kind of acceptable within their circle and it gives the odd implication of "being busy", which seems to be very important to some people.

Flannel

zef wrote: »

They were not engaged in anti-social behaviour, drug taking, or shoplifting, and I don't think they were drinking or sexually active (but i might be wrong on that.)
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Did they not show the 2 girls and their pal outside some building and showing how swollen their hands were from beating people up the night before during a 'riot'? :eek:

silverharp

I wish, its yummy mummy land around here, very few ugly birds with paunches

Kolido

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Not really, i just think it's kind of acceptable within their circle and it gives the odd implication of "being busy", which seems to be very important to some people.

They couldn't be bothered to throw a pair of jeans on, more like "being lazy"

Amalgam

A lot of it in Dún Laoghaire. Bonus points for stains (front and back), 'spider legs' sticking out, or a cesarian scar with a moustache.

Logical Fallacy

Kolido wrote: »

They couldn't be bothered to throw a pair of jeans on, more like "being lazy"

Well done...that's the kind of logical progression that could only be carried out by the very astute and keen of mind.

sbsquarepants

dark crystal wrote: »

I live in a council estate, and yes, there are a few who pop to the local Spar in their pyjamas, dressing gowns and uggs during the day.

Don't think any of them actually go any further afield in them though or if they do, I haven't seen it.

I live in tallaght and they're everywhere, it's like some plague of the walking dead undressed. It turns my stomach, how anyone lets their kids out dressed like that is beyond me.
And it's not just teenage girls. I actually saw a woman in her 50's, christmas eve before last, doing her grocery shopping in the square, dressed in pyjamas, dressing gown and slippers! That's just a lazy old hag if you ask me:mad:

hightower1

Lets cut th BS, bottom line is wearing PJs in public is something prodominently done by scumbags and NO ONE likes scumbags.

People can harp on about sociological , hygine and decorum reasons but at the end of the day it boils down to the fact that this is a notible feature of scumbag lifestyles and no one likes them.

PJs are indoor wear, wearing them outside makes you look as stupid as wearing any other clothing designed for one purpose in a situation not fit for them. Turn up to tescos in a wet suit or Alid in full GAA gear and you'd look equally as ridiculous all be it slightly more ecentric rather than slovenly.

Scumbags = sh1theads,

PJs outside and tracksuit pants tucked into socks = sh1thead uniform.

hightower1

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Well done...that's the kind of logical progression that could only be carried out by the very astute and keen of mind.

Of course its logical, do you need to spelled out for you?

Look at why its acceptable in their circle... because you dont have anything important to do for the day... because your idle... because your lazy.

paddyandy

There are many signs that we've lost the run of ourselves in this country pj's on the streets is only one of them . Time to restrict Democracy to those mature enough to understand good taste .Many voters do not .

Logical Fallacy

hightower1 wrote: »

Of course its logical, do you need to spelled out for you?

Look at why its acceptable in their circle... because you dont have anything important to do for the day... because your idle... because your lazy.

While I am aware the AH is largely the preserve of people spouting the obvious...your ability to do so and imply that it was actually necessary to do so is second to none.

hightower1

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

While I am aware the AH is largely the preserve of people spouting the obvious...your ability to do so and imply that it was actually necessary to do so is second to none.

How about actually discussing the topic rather than a very poor attempt to sound intellectually superior while trying to get childish snipes at other posters?

fishy fishy

ash23 wrote: »

Well I wouldn't wear a mini skirt if someone could see my thong either.

But the main difference between PJs and any other clothing is the fact that PJs have the inference that they have been worn to sleep in the night before and that the person hasn't washed, changed their underwear or sleepwear since getting up that morning.
And that's not a superiority thing or judgement. They are PYJAMAS. It's what they were made for, it's the logical conclusion.
And why anyone would want someone thinking they are one of the great unwashed is beyond me...........

thankfully not everybody thinks like that tho. Just because somebody doesn't conform to your way of thinking does not make them any lesser than you. You can infer what you like but remember its only in your own mind. You cannot read other people's mind.

Logical Fallacy

hightower1 wrote: »

How about actually discussing the topic rather than a very poor attempt to sound intellectually superior while trying to get childish snipes at other posters?

lol, because asking people if they need things spelled out for them is neither trying to be intellectually superior or childish.

Glass houses and such.

ash23

fishy fishy wrote: »

thankfully not everybody thinks like that tho. Just because somebody doesn't conform to your way of thinking does not make them any lesser than you. You can infer what you like but remember its only in your own mind. You cannot read other people's mind.

But that's like saying I'm wrong for thinking a cup is for drinking from or a fork is for eating with. Pyjamas are for sleeping in. It's why they were made and it's their purpose. I've never said anyone was lesser than me. Just that I can't understand why people would want to give off the impression that they didn't get dressed or wash that day before leaving the house.

It's like saying that it's only in my own head that I think a car is for driving and not for pushing
Pyjamas are for sleeping in.

Fey!

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Not where I live, often served them when i worked in Dublin though, generally 18 or over, never 13. I served one a while ago who took it a step further, wasn't wearing pyjamas but a short white dressing gown, and nothing else complete with a very deep tan, over the top hair extensions, makeup jewellery and nails. Ridiculous.

What was he buying?

dulpit

In my neighbourhood? No.
Near where I work - yes. Lots. Going to garage/shops/etc. Lucky bastards...

Stab*City

fishy fishy wrote: »

So let's get a grip and stop making judgements on people you don't even know, and start working on your own inadequacies.

Well said fishy.. Live and let live. Maybe mammy should have taught him how not to judge people based on his own ideals.

kylith

ash23 wrote: »

But that's like saying I'm wrong for thinking a cup is for drinking from or a fork is for eating with. Pyjamas are for sleeping in. It's why they were made and it's their purpose. I've never said anyone was lesser than me. Just that I can't understand why people would want to give off the impression that they didn't get dressed or wash that day before leaving the house.

It's like saying that it's only in my own head that I think a car is for driving and not for pushing
Pyjamas are for sleeping in.

+1

If someone looks like they don't take care of themselves, how is it my fault for assuming that they don't take care of themselves? I have only their presentation of themselves to go on.

fishy fishy

ash23 wrote: »

But that's like saying I'm wrong for thinking a cup is for drinking from or a fork is for eating with. Pyjamas are for sleeping in. It's why they were made and it's their purpose. I've never said anyone was lesser than me. Just that I can't understand why people would want to give off the impression that they didn't get dressed or wash that day before leaving the house.

It's like saying that it's only in my own head that I think a car is for driving and not for pushing
Pyjamas are for sleeping in.

well you can drink from any utensil that hold's liquid. It doesn't necessarily have to be a cup. Likewise you can eat with any utensil - doesn't have to be a fork. Do you ONLY drink from a cup and eat from a fork?

Also, I sure hope you don't own a pair of denim jeans - you know they are for miners only.

fishy fishy

kylith wrote: »

+1

If someone looks like they don't take care of themselves, how is it my fault for assuming that they don't take care of themselves? I have only their presentation of themselves to go on.

and that would be in your own head again. You could look like you don't take care of yourself either, in other people's mind.

Stab*City

ash23 wrote: »

But that's like saying I'm wrong for thinking a cup is for drinking from or a fork is for eating with. Pyjamas are for sleeping in. It's why they were made and it's their purpose. I've never said anyone was lesser than me. Just that I can't understand why people would want to give off the impression that they didn't get dressed or wash that day before leaving the house.

It's like saying that it's only in my own head that I think a car is for driving and not for pushing
Pyjamas are for sleeping in.

And bikini's are for swimming but i bet you wouldnt complain if you saw a nice girl wearing a bikini top on a hot day in town.

Pj's are not entirely for sleeping in, thats just your opinion. The actual definition is:

Pajamas, also spelled pyjamas and often shortened to PJs, can refer to several related types of clothing. The original paijama are loose, lightweight trousers fitted with drawstring waistbands and worn in South and West Asia by both sexes.[1] In many English-speaking nations, pajamas are loose-fitting, two-piece garments derived from the original garment and worn chiefly for sleeping,[2] but sometimes also for lounging,[3] also by both sexes.[4] More generally, pajamas may refer to several garments, for both daywear and nightwear, derived from traditional pajamas and involving variations of style and material.

Monty Burnz

Stab*City wrote: »

Well said fishy.. Live and let live. Maybe mammy should have taught him how not to judge people based on his own ideals.

Let's not have any opinions. Everything is as good as everything else, there's no good or bad and everything is of the same value.

Welcome to 1984, folks. It's doubleplusgood here.

Monty Burnz

Stab*City wrote: »

And bikini's are for swimming but i bet you wouldnt complain if you saw a nice girl wearing a bikini top on a hot day in town.

How about a fat 70-year old? How about a fat 70-year old man? We are back to social convention here - even if it doesn't bother everybody, it's going to bother some of them. Like farting loudly in a restaurant.

fishy fishy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Let's not have any opinions. Everything is as good as everything else, there's no good or bad and everything is of the same value.

Welcome to 1984, folks. It's doubleplusgood here.

everyone is entitled to an "opinion" but that doesn't mean that your "opinion" is correct. to actually think that you can "tell" who a person is, what they do, and how much they "offend" because they wear a certain type of clothes your own opinion and yours only. To actually insult somebody because they choose to wear clothes different to your own is actually a very shallow way of putting someone down to make yourself feel good. Someone that you don't even know.

Why should somebody else's clothing have such an effect on you? only you can answer that. Does their shoes upset you too, maybe their hairstyles - what about the "just out of bed hairstyle look" that people spend a fortune to get. How dare they - that style should only be worn getting out of bed.

do YOU own a pair of Jeans?? Is it okay for you to wear them. Do you know the history of jeans - why aren't you up in arms over this.

runawaybishop

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

The only thing I find disgusting are some of the comments on here. One of the girls was 15, never knew her dad, lost her mum to drug addiction and illness. I'm not presuming to know every poster's circumstances, but I'm guessing most of ye weren't orphaned at a young age or had to deal with a junkie parent. 'Dole scum', 'knackers', 'lazy slob', 'scroungers' etc. Aren't you all just marvelous with your parents with jobs and stable upbringings? We're all products of our environment. Spilling bile about 15 year old children who aren't as privileged as yourself shows a remarkable lack of empathy. They might find it difficult to escape (or even imagine escape) from the welfare trap, but these are kids, they were born into these circumstances, they didn't ask for it and can't be blamed for it.

What part of that removed her ability to wear trousers?

fishy fishy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How about a fat 70-year old? How about a fat 70-year old man? We are back to social convention here - even if it doesn't bother everybody, it's going to bother some of them. Like farting loudly in a restaurant.

this thread seems to be getting shallower and shallower.

a 70 year old person is just as entitled to wear whatever they want, as a person quarter, half or a third their age. Fat, skinny, tall, short can wear what they want - they are not harming anybody by their clothes. If you are insulted by that, then you are the one with the problem.

angry kitten

It's disgusting. They don't have any self respect let alone respect for anyone else. I watched that programme last night and it depressed me. What I saw was an elderly woman who had failed as a parent with her own children and she is clearly not able to cope with her granddaughter. There seems to be a clear lack of discipline and kids need boundaries.

The girls in the programme had been expelled from school and seemed to spend most of their time roaming about on buses and hanging around outside shops. There was a noticeable lack of fathers and in fact one of the girls commented that some random guy claimed he might even be her father.

We are witnessing a generation of poorly educated tramps, descended from a line of poorly educated tramps. It won't be long before they're pregnant, living in their own council flats and dragging up the next generation of poorly educated tramps. Well done the welfare state.

Stab*City

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How about a fat 70-year old? How about a fat 70-year old man? We are back to social convention here - even if it doesn't bother everybody, it's going to bother some of them. Like farting loudly in a restaurant.

Sounds like alot of things bothering you. maybe you should look at solving those instead of calling people fat and lazy.

Stab*City

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Let's not have any opinions. Everything is as good as everything else, there's no good or bad and everything is of the same value.

Welcome to 1984, folks. It's doubleplusgood here.

So witty and funny.. :rolleyes: And i bet in 84 you even used the term doubleplusgood.

fishy fishy

angry kitten wrote: »

It's disgusting. They don't have any self respect let alone respect for anyone else. I watched that programme last night and it depressed me. What I saw was an elderly woman who had failed as a parent with her own children and she is clearly not able to cope with her granddaughter. There seems to be a clear lack of discipline and kids need boundaries.

The girls in the programme had been expelled from school and seemed to spend most of their time roaming about on buses and hanging around outside shops. There was a noticeable lack of fathers and in fact one of the girls commented that some random guy claimed he might even be her father.

We are witnessing a generation of poorly educated tramps, descended from a line of poorly educated tramps. It won't be long before they're pregnant, living in their own council flats and dragging up the next generation of poorly educated tramps. Well done the welfare state.

with all that is going on in Ireland, if kids in pyjamas depresses you, then I have to worry for your future. I don't know how you will be able to get by at all. :rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

fishy fishy wrote: »

everyone is entitled to an "opinion" but that doesn't mean that your "opinion" is correct. to actually think that you can "tell" who a person is, what they do, and how much they "offend" because they wear a certain type of clothes your own opinion and yours only. To actually insult somebody because they choose to wear clothes different to your own is actually a very shallow way of putting someone down to make yourself feel good. Someone that you don't even know.

You can't tell, but you have a very good clue. Same as if you see someone dressed as an emo. People give out signals - are you denying this?

In addition, I've never insulted someone for wearing pyjamas outdoors - that would fly in the face of good manners, wouldn't it?

fishy fishy wrote: »

Why should somebody else's clothing have such an effect on you? only you can answer that. Does their shoes upset you too, maybe their hairstyles - what about the "just out of bed hairstyle look" that people spend a fortune to get. How dare they - that style should only be worn getting out of bed.

It doesn't affect me beyond my perception of them and what it tells me about their attitude to themselves and others. That is what we are discussing here.

fishy fishy wrote: »

do YOU own a pair of Jeans?? Is it okay for you to wear them. Do you know the history of jeans - why aren't you up in arms over this.

The history of jeans? Oh come on. Do you know the history of salt? The history of coal? Electricity was used to torture people, let's not use that either. The Nazis used to wear shoes. :rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Stab*City wrote: »

Sounds like alot of things bothering you. maybe you should look at solving those instead of calling people fat and lazy.

The irony of someone preaching at you for being preachy - can you not see it?

Monty Burnz

fishy fishy wrote: »

this thread seems to be getting shallower and shallower.

a 70 year old person is just as entitled to wear whatever they want, as a person quarter, half or a third their age. Fat, skinny, tall, short can wear what they want - they are not harming anybody by their clothes. If you are insulted by that, then you are the one with the problem.

How about people farting loudly in restaurants when you are eating? Are you going to discriminate against people with digestive problems? Or people picking their noses in front of you and eating it? Would you find that rude if you were trying to eat a meal with your gf/bf?

ladyeaston

I am sick when i see people wearing PJ s out doors and going to the shop, is this what our country has become when shops will let people in to do their shopping in as i would see it as nearly under wear, I also see these people as unwashed and lazy as you have to remove the clothes to shower each morning, Normal folk should ask the stores not to serve them

Kolido

Stab*City wrote: »

And bikini's are for swimming but i bet you wouldnt complain if you saw a nice girl wearing a bikini top on a hot day in town.

Pj's are not entirely for sleeping in, thats just your opinion. The actual definition is:

Pajamas, also spelled pyjamasand often shortened to PJs, can refer to several related types of clothing. The original paijama are loose, lightweight trousers fitted with drawstring waistbands and worn in South and West Asia by both sexes.[1] In many English-speaking nations, pajamas are loose-fitting, two-piece garments derived from the original garment and worn chiefly for sleeping,[2] but sometimes also for lounging,[3] also by both sexes.[4] More generally, pajamas may refer to several garments, for both daywear and nightwear, derived from traditional pajamas and involving variations of style and material.

Nowhere in that passage do we see they are for going to the grocery store in.

We know there are different types but the ones we are referring to are the manc, dirty, smelly ones you come across in the local store, and their pjs aren't much better.

fishy fishy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How about people farting loudly in restaurants when you are eating? Are you going to discriminate against people with digestive problems? Or people picking their noses in front of you and eating it? Would you find that rude if you were trying to eat a meal with your gf/bf?

why would I discriminate against people with digestive problem? Why would some stranger picking their nose bother me. If I was having dinner with my partner, I would be concentrating on my partner - not looking around trying to pick fault with people around me that were not offending me in any way. Maybe you should try that.

Stab*City

Monty Burnz wrote: »

The irony of someone preaching at you for being preachy - can you not see it?

No im too busy laughing at you.

Stab*City

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How about people farting loudly in restaurants when you are eating? Are you going to discriminate against people with digestive problems? Or people picking their noses in front of you and eating it? Would you find that rude if you were trying to eat a meal with your gf/bf?

Id hate to be your bf/gf.. Out to dinner and all you do is look around for people who dont conform to your high standards.. I bet your missus is afraid to come downstairs with her pj's on.

hightower1

Stab*City wrote: »

And bikini's are for swimming but i bet you wouldnt complain if you saw a nice girl wearing a bikini top on a hot day in town.

Pj's are not entirely for sleeping in, thats just your opinion. The actual definition is:

Pajamas, also spelled pyjamasand often shortened to PJs, can refer to several related types of clothing. The original paijama are loose, lightweight trousers fitted with drawstring waistbands and worn in South and West Asia by both sexes.[1] In many English-speaking nations, pajamas are loose-fitting, two-piece garments derived from the original garment and worn chiefly for sleeping,[2] but sometimes also for lounging,[3] also by both sexes.[4] More generally, pajamas may refer to several garments, for both daywear and nightwear, derived from traditional pajamas and involving variations of style and material.

Note how the definition includes all the activities done indoors. They are not considerd appropriate daily outdoor wear attire by any culture.

Monty Burnz

fishy fishy wrote: »

why would I discriminate against people with digestive problem? Why would some stranger picking their nose bother me. If I was having dinner with my partner, I would be concentrating on my partner - not looking around trying to pick fault with people around me that were not offending me in any way. Maybe you should try that.

Ok, so now you are telling me that you would be happy to be sitting in a restaurant with your g/f and around you there are people sitting in pyjamas and elderly men wearing bikinis, farting loudly and picking their noses and eating what they find. How about if some of them are talking loudly on their cellphones? And maybe one or two are playing music that you don't like loudly on their phones? And a guy at the table beside you keeps spitting on the floor.

Lots of bad mannered stuff. You are still having a good time, yes?

Monty Burnz

Stab*City wrote: »

No im too busy laughing at you.

Ah here. That's the weakest comeback yet. That's just embarrassingly poor.

angry kitten

fishy fishy wrote: »

with all that is going on in Ireland, if kids in pyjamas depresses you, then I have to worry for your future. I don't know how you will be able to get by at all. :rolleyes:

These kids are the future, whats not to be depressed about.

Stab*City

ladyeaston wrote: »

I am sick when i see people wearing PJ s out doors and going to the shop, is this what our country has become when shops will let people in to do their shopping in as i would see it as nearly under wear, I also see these people as unwashed and lazy as you have to remove the clothes to shower each morning, Normal folk should ask the stores not to serve them

Normal folk is it? Like you? Great first post welcome to boards!:rolleyes: What our country has become is our state broadcaster has the likes of you more worried about what the neighbour is wearing than how europe/government/bankers are actually sticking it in your a** while you worry about pj's.

hightower1

Stab*City wrote: »

Id hate to be your bf/gf.. Out to dinner and all you do is look around for people who dont conform to your high standards.. I bet your missus is afraid to come downstairs with her pj's on.

They arent HIS standards they are the standards of the majorty of the population. Its generally given that its poor manors to pick your nose , fart and wear inapropriate attire etc in view of others.

Its called COMMON decency for a reason.

Stab*City

hightower1 wrote: »

Note how the definition includes all the activities done indoors. They are not considerd appropriate daily outdoor wear attire by any culture.

By you and the likes of you. you mean. They are ok by me. I only worry about myself. Things that i cant control dont worry me.