M9 crash - Tractor involved

Cuddlesworth · 26-03-2012 8:01am

Nok1a wrote: »

Simple way around this is introduce a law limiting tractors to 49kph

That's the smartest comment in this whole thread.

sean1141 · 26-03-2012 8:34am

Nok1a wrote: »

Simple way around this is introduce a law limiting tractors to 49kph

but what if your stuck behing a tractor on a national road, wouldnt it be nicer to have the tractor moving as fast as possible and not restricted to a low speed??

Imo the law sould be that no tractors/farm veichles should be allowed on the motorway as a miniumn speed limit wont work as it would need to be able to be changed for weather/traffic conditions.

on another note i was going up to belfast yesterday and just across the border there was two women cycling on the left lane of the motorway/dualcarrige way, not in the hard shoulder in in the left lane side by side:eek: i dont know if its against the law up there but it was downright dangerous and stupid. they were not even wearing hi-vis vests!

creedp · 26-03-2012 8:34am

Tea drinker wrote: »

Well, even if the tractor had been driving in the correct lane, you are still probably looking at the same poor O/T manouever by the mini driver.
Why was this driver incapable of assessing distance, speed, other vehicles around him etc? Perhaps he should have been driving the old N1 also? 50km/h vs 120 is a huuge gap though, I don't think any work vehicles should be allowed unless capable of 80 k/mh, e.g. JCB Fastrac.
These accidents are frequently a combo of ineptitude.

That may be so but at least the driver in front of me would be better prepared for the maveouvre if he saw a car coming up behing a tractor in the left hand lane. Not the case when the mini driver could have passed the tractor by staying in his own left hand lane rather than moving across into the path of an oncoming car travelling at 120kmph while barely doing 50 kmph .. recipe for disaster. Bottom line tractor should not have been on the M1 but you'd have to Q the driving ability of many car drivers on the same road .. these guys are supposed to have 'full licences' and therefore competent drivers.

Padraig Mor · 26-03-2012 8:57am

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

That's the smartest comment in this whole thread.

They have a similar system in the UK. Any vehicle using agri diesel is restricted by law to a maximum of 29 mph or similar. Motorways have a minimum speed limit of 30 mph. Therefore, tractors etc are effectively banned from motorways, despite no actual banning legislation.

dr.fuzzenstein · 26-03-2012 9:00am

sean1141 wrote: »

on another note i was going up to belfast yesterday and just across the border there was two women cycling on the left lane of the motorway/dualcarrige way, not in the hard shoulder in in the left lane side by side:eek: i dont know if its against the law up there but it was downright dangerous and stupid. they were not even wearing hi-vis vests!

Only thing for that is a fly-past in low gear with full lights and horn blaring. Purely to alert them to your presence, of course.
Some are so grateful they have to pull over for a minute or so.

Capt'n Midnight · 31-03-2012 8:19pm

http://themetapicture.com/you-know-you-live-in-a-rural-area-when-the-police-vehicles-look-like-this/

john reilly · 31-03-2012 9:15pm

sean1141 wrote: »

but what if your stuck behing a tractor on a national road, wouldnt it be nicer to have the tractor moving as fast as possible and not restricted to a low speed??

Imo the law sould be that no tractors/farm veichles should be allowed on the motorway as a miniumn speed limit wont work as it would need to be able to be changed for weather/traffic conditions.

on another note i was going up to belfast yesterday and just across the border there was two women cycling on the left lane of the motorway/dualcarrige way, not in the hard shoulder in in the left lane side by side:eek: i dont know if its against the law up there but it was downright dangerous and stupid. they were not even wearing hi-vis vests!

the slower they are going the easier to pass them

pegasus1 · 31-03-2012 9:21pm

john reilly wrote: »

the slower they are going the easier to pass them

Balls to that!!! The slower they are the less time time to react!!

What are you driving? A ford model T?

Recap... The motorway is a high speed connection between city's...

Not.... A quicker way to the market or field!

Having reread your post.. I see where your coming from ...but even on old twisty national roads it gives you less time to overtake if a faster than slow tractor is going faster...

Does that make sense?

fricatus · 01-04-2012 9:26am

john reilly wrote: »

the slower they are going the easier to pass them

I think he's talking about on the old N-roads. That's true. I used to drive the old N9 to Kilkenny and Dublin all the time and a slow tractor was much easier to deal with than say a Pajero and a horsebox doing 45 mph.