Muamba Injury Thread

rebel girl 15

EdenHazard wrote: »

Is it just me or does 'injury' not sound right?

Thats what I thought too when I saw it. Maybe just Muamba Thread would be better

Renn

It's important that we get the naming of the thread right...

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

More messages of goodwill for Muamba tonight in La Liga, this time from Barca.

mark renton

Renn wrote: »

It's important that we get the naming of the thread right...

May I put forward "Muamba el infarto"

Cantona's Collars

Report on SSN saying he's laughing & joking with friends at the hospital,great news.

Vanbis

zerks wrote: »

Report on SSN saying he's laughing & joking with friends at the hospital,great news.

Unbelievable news. Each day is another step to his recovery. Great credit to the doctors and medical teams who where on the pitch that evening.

NIMAN

Its great news that he is making such a recovery and a testament to the medical people and what they can do these days.

On a different point, and this is by no means meant to be in any way offensive, but we were discussing in work the other day the whole Muamba incident, and some reckon he only got so much work on him (for a few hours) because he was a top EPL footballer. Many thought that if it was you or me, they would have called us dead after maybe 15mins and moved on, whereas he got so much attention. Probably true, but thats maybe because it was a high profile cardiac arrest on live tv, and if they had given up after 15mins with him it would not have been accepted?

EdenHazard

That is really really unbelievable Don't think he'd care too much if he can't play football again with the knowledge of what happened.

Anyone know how much twitter followers he had before Saturday?

NIMAN

I think its safe to assume his career is over for sure.

De La Red at Real Madrid had to retire after he passed out a couple of seasons ago and no cause could be found. Think he was around 27 or 28. Doctors advised him too dangerous to continue despite him suffering no ill effects from the incident.

EdenHazard

Oh yeah forgot about him. Pretty sure at 18.20 he'd have taken that

Al Capwned

been a while since i sat readin boards with a smile on my face - and really couldnt see this outcome on sat evening, but i'm genuinely delighted for the guy that he's making an apparent recovery!!!!

Anyone else surprised by how much this has affected them? - Cant say I ever took an interest in Muamba, or his career, and I am definitely not a fan of Bolton, but I've followed this story from the time it happened with a genuine concern for the lad, and am really glad that it looks like he's on the mend....

murpho999

NIMAN wrote: »

I think its safe to assume his career is over for sure.

De La Red at Real Madrid had to retire after he passed out a couple of seasons ago and no cause could be found. Think he was around 27 or 28. Doctors advised him too dangerous to continue despite him suffering no ill effects from the incident.

Clive Clarke is another example.

People talking about players with heart conditions is one thing but suffering a cardiac arrest is a different matter.

Could have seriously damaged his heart. He may live a normal life but not be a pro athlete.

El Horseboxo

NIMAN wrote: »

Its great news that he is making such a recovery and a testament to the medical people and what they can do these days.

On a different point, and this is by no means meant to be in any way offensive, but we were discussing in work the other day the whole Muamba incident, and some reckon he only got so much work on him (for a few hours) because he was a top EPL footballer. Many thought that if it was you or me, they would have called us dead after maybe 15mins and moved on, whereas he got so much attention. Probably true, but thats maybe because it was a high profile cardiac arrest on live tv, and if they had given up after 15mins with him it would not have been accepted?

Maybe in America if you didn't have health insurance. But i imagine if anybody regardless of social status was tended to medically with the quickness that Muamba was no doctor is just going to give up if they believe that they can save a patient. Sure just look how often you hear of average joe's on life support machines.

Pepe LeFrits

I'm delighted, I really didn't think he'd even survive past Sunday morning... amazing recovery.

Meglamonia

Viva Muamba!:D

amacachi

NIMAN wrote: »

Its great news that he is making such a recovery and a testament to the medical people and what they can do these days.

On a different point, and this is by no means meant to be in any way offensive, but we were discussing in work the other day the whole Muamba incident, and some reckon he only got so much work on him (for a few hours) because he was a top EPL footballer. Many thought that if it was you or me, they would have called us dead after maybe 15mins and moved on, whereas he got so much attention. Probably true, but thats maybe because it was a high profile cardiac arrest on live tv, and if they had given up after 15mins with him it would not have been accepted?

Most of us wouldn't have an ambulance so close so would be completely dead after 15 minutes.

Reekwind

The presence of the medical staff and ambulance in close proximity clearly saved Muamba's life (and doesn't it feel good to write that?). If you ever were to suffer a cardiac arrest, as horrible a thought as that is, then a Premier League pitch is arguably the best place it could happen to you

Had Muamba suffered this at home then he'd be dead, professional footballer or not

Dublin_Gunner

Reekwind wrote: »

The presence of the medical staff and ambulance in close proximity clearly saved Muamba's life (and doesn't it feel good to write that?). If you ever were to suffer a cardiac arrest, as horrible a thought as that is, then a Premier League pitch is arguably the best place it could happen to you

Had Muamba suffered this at home then he'd be dead, professional footballer or not

There is absolutely no way you can say that for certain.

While you may very well be right (and HUGE kudos must go to the medical staff at hand, and to the cardiologist from the crowd who told them to bring him to the London Chest Hospital, instead of the local emergency centre), but you can't say that for definite he would have died.

NIMAN wrote: »

On a different point, and this is by no means meant to be in any way offensive, but we were discussing in work the other day the whole Muamba incident, and some reckon he only got so much work on him (for a few hours) because he was a top EPL footballer. Many thought that if it was you or me, they would have called us dead after maybe 15mins and moved on, whereas he got so much attention. Probably true, but thats maybe because it was a high profile cardiac arrest on live tv, and if they had given up after 15mins with him it would not have been accepted?

Don't be so ridiculous. If he was dead, he was dead - but he WASN'T. There was obviously erratic heart rhythm there or my understanding is that defib is pointless.

Once there are signs of life, and a so called 'shockable rhythm' the medical staff will continue to try stabilise unless he flat lines. The main concern with Muamba was probably not the heart rhythm, but the lack of oxygen getting to his brain - hence the CPR being performed throughout.

You have an extremely low / sceptical opinion to think that medical professionals - who save lives each and every day, would have some sort of favouritism towards what patients they have to deal with.

I've never heard such bull in my life.

plasmaguy

Apparantly there was a consultant cardiologist at the game who is also a spurs fan and he was allowed onto the pitch to advise, and told them what hospital to bring him to.

I reckon its probably that guy who saved Muamba's life.

I wouldn't be too sure how much the ordinary medics could have done, other than CPR and defibrilator.

They probably should have a cardiologist at all top level games but these occurances are rare enough in top level football.

Dublin_Gunner

plasmaguy wrote: »

Apparantly there was a consultant cardiologist at the game who is also a spurs fan and he was allowed onto the pitch to advise, and told them what hospital to bring him to.

I reckon its probably that guy who saved Muamba's life.

I wouldn't be too sure how much the ordinary medics could have done, other than CPR and defibrilator.

They probably should have a cardiologist at all top level games but these occurances are rare enough in top level football.

I said that in the post right above yours lol

roryc

plasmaguy wrote: »

Apparantly there was a consultant cardiologist at the game who is also a spurs fan and he was allowed onto the pitch to advise, and told them what hospital to bring him to.

I reckon its probably that guy who saved Muamba's life.

Yep Andrew Deaner. He's one of the guys thats now working on Muamba in the London Chest Hospital. The chances of one of their cardiologists being at the game is incredible. It's easy to say that if Muamba had been at home when this happened his chances of survival would have been significantly lower, but if it had even happened at another game, another week he might not have been so lucky. Very fortunate things happened the way they did.

http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/sport/dr-andrew-deaner-saved-fabrica-muamba-ran-from-stands-hailed-a-hero

Jesus Wept

He's my fav player now, hope we sign him.

Lawrence1895

I'm just delighted. that he survived. The question, if he will be able to be a professional footballer again, is not significant at all in the moment, imo

Glico Man

A tweet from Dan Roan

http://gyazo.com/2aa4a54666e0f28a78ce43880504fa6c

Tobin is Jonathan Tobin, Bolton's club doctor. 78 minutes!!! Its a near miracle his recovery is as good as it has been

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Apparently Thierry flew from salt Lake City to visit muamba. Sound man

Pj!

Effectively dead for 78 minutes! Bloody hell. I and others around me at the time were sure it was the worst. Delighted to hear the latest.

Footballs greatest ever comeback!

ASOT

There not all as lucky - http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Indian-footballer-Venkatesh-dies-after-suspected-cardiac-arrest-on-the-pitch-in-Bangalore-article881231.html

R.I.P

Sanity_Saviour

http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/7615317/Bolton-to-play-on-Muamba-latest

Despite being clinically dead for 48 minutes he was still able to retain a sense of humour: Deaner(the cardiologist), upon him waking up, asked his name; "Fabrice Muamba", to which Dener replied "I hear you're a very good footballer", his response: "I try"


Not only is he a breathing miracle he is an absolute hero as well.

amacachi

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

Despite being dead for 48 hours

What?

Sanity_Saviour

amacachi wrote: »

What?

fixed

Adolf Hipster

Muamba, upon waking from an induced
coma asked his family for the latest news
and was told Torres scored two goals. "Jesus,
how many years have I been unconscious?"
he asked.

roryc

Some good interviews on BBC with the club doctor and Andrew Deaner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17460781

Jimmy Iovine

Bolton Wanderers pledge unlimited support to Fabrice Muamba's recovery.

They've offered him an unlimited period to allow him to make the best possible recovery.

I didn't know it but they extended Joey O'Brien's contract when he was there despite the fact that he was sidelined and wasn't able to play for them. They did it to give him every opportunity to regain fitness.

It's great to see that some clubs out there aren't completely heartless.

Shanotheslayer

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

Muamba, upon waking from an induced
coma asked his family for the latest news
and was told Torres scored two goals. "Jesus,
how many years have I been unconscious?"
he asked.

No he didn't. Sickipedia wants their joke back btw.

Mitch Connor

A good article on the congratulations football has offered itself regarding its response to Muamba's heart attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/21/fabrice-muamba-self-congratulation?CMP=twt_gu

So instead of congratulating itself on its eminently civilised reaction to poor Muamba's suffering, the football family might instead care to wonder to what a pretty pass things have come for a basically humane reaction to be deemed so remarkable. How low does the game have to have sunk before not directing abuse at a player receiving CPR, not chanting something repulsive about his partner, or not ranting that Bolton should have played on with 10 men for the time-wasting is deemed to be a behavioural win?

Obviously a lot more on the link, thanks Sean....

UpTheSlashers

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A good article on the congratulations football has offered itself regarding its response to Muamba's heart attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/21/fabrice-muamba-self-congratulation?CMP=twt_gu



Obviously a lot more on the link, thanks Sean....

Jesus Christ, talk about a moral high-horse.

Jelle1880

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A good article on the congratulations football has offered itself regarding its response to Muamba's heart attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/21/fabrice-muamba-self-congratulation?CMP=twt_gu



Obviously a lot more on the link, thanks Sean....

Can't really disagree with that.

Would people do the same if they visit a relative/friend in the hospital, and then walk out saying to themselves 'I did great' ?

plasmaguy

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Bolton Wanderers pledge unlimited support to Fabrice Muamba's recovery.

They've offered him an unlimited period to allow him to make the best possible recovery.

I didn't know it but they extended Joey O'Brien's contract when he was there despite the fact that he was sidelined and wasn't able to play for them. They did it to give him every opportunity to regain fitness.

It's great to see that some clubs out there aren't completely heartless.

I seriously can't see him playing professional football again with what appears a dodgy ticker.

My name is URL

plasmaguy wrote: »

I seriously can't see him playing professional football again with what appears a dodgy ticker.

Plenty of players have dodgy tickers. Anthony Van Loo springs to mind. He had a heart attack on the pitch but his life was saved by a defibrillator he had implanted some time before.

Personally I can't see Muamba returning to the game, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if he did one day.

Jelle1880

My name is URL wrote: »

Plenty of players have dodgy tickers. Anthony Van Loo springs to mind. He had a heart attack on the pitch but his life was saved by a defibrillator he had implanted some time before.

Personally I can't see Muamba returning to the game, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if he did one day.

I think he will be able to return, but if he's afraid to do it in case it happens again I would totally understand.

Adolf Hipster

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

Muamba, upon waking from an induced
coma asked his family for the latest news
and was told Torres scored two goals. "Jesus,
how many years have I been unconscious?"
he asked.

No he didn't. Sickipedia wants their joke back btw.

I think most people realised it was one of them jokey thingys.

Corholio

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

No he didn't. Sickipedia wants their joke back btw.

Someone on boards using a joke from another site - the scandal! :rolleyes:

gnfnrhead

plasmaguy wrote: »

I seriously can't see him playing professional football again with what appears a dodgy ticker.

Kanu has had a dodgy heart for years. He's won nearly everything in spite of it. While it's not the same as Muamba, it shows he doesnt have to call it a day if he gets the all clear to continue.

At the end of the day, it'll be down to the doctors opinions. I hope Muamba takes their advice even if it is to retire. No point in risking it.

Jimmy Iovine

Xavi6

Red Issue showing their class for their latest issue -

Jax Teller

Xavi6 wrote: »

Red Issue showing their class for their latest issue -

Bunch of idiots . Embarrassment for United fans everyone should boycott it .

v3ttel

Xavi6 wrote: »

Red Issue showing their class for their latest issue -

Red Issue had some awful tweets about Muamba in the immediate aftermath of his collapse too (which they say stem from the Bolton chairmans comments in '58 - you'd think they'd have let it go in the intervening 50+ years ).

Anyways, they are completely classless and an embarassment to United fans. Wouldn't pick one up if it was free.

plasmaguy

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Kanu has had a dodgy heart for years. He's won nearly everything in spite of it. While it's not the same as Muamba, it shows he doesnt have to call it a day if he gets the all clear to continue.

At the end of the day, it'll be down to the doctors opinions. I hope Muamba takes their advice even if it is to retire. No point in risking it.

He probably wouldn't be insured for a start, Bolton probably wouldn't play him for fear of happening it again.

The heart is the most vital organ in the body, and if it's causing you problems when playing then you need to give up football.

Anyways, a number of former pros were interviewed in the aftermath who were advised to quit after screening showed they had a heart defect. The same will happen with Muamba.

They will buy him out of his contract or give him a pay off and that will be that.

I don't think Kanu's was as serious an issue as Muamba. My instinct is he's done in the game and wisely so.

amiable

Liam Stacey jailed for 56 days for comments made on Twitter about Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17515992

Kess73

amiable wrote: »

Liam Stacey jailed for 56 days for comments made on Twitter about Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba

Delighted this happened.