Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Will I Amnt

nuxxx wrote: »

In fairness United have the handiest run in you could ask for, City have a tough one

Monday, March 26 2012
Manchester United - Fulham (20.00)
Monday, April 2 2012
Blackburn Rovers - Manchester United (20.00)
Sunday, April 8 2012
Manchester United - Queens Park Rangers (13.30)
Wednesday, April 11 2012
Wigan Athletic - Manchester United (19.45)
Sunday, April 15 2012
Manchester United - Aston Villa (16.00)
Sunday, April 22 2012
Manchester United - Everton (12.30)
Monday, April 30 2012
Manchester City - Manchester United (20.00)
Sunday, May 6 2012
Manchester United - Swansea City (14.00)
Sunday, May 13 2012
Sunderland - Manchester United (15.00)

So we have no Saturday games left for the rest of the season.
That's a bit shìt.

The_Kew_Tour

God I love to go to another away game by end of season.

Would go to Wigan if it was on weekend as would be certain of ticket for it, but not hope I will get time of work I say.

Son Of A Vidic

A good result yesterday and hopefully City's shít away from will continue. So providing United maintain their league form, they could end up playing City with a cushion of points.

homerjay2005

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Sound Stoke, for at least giving it the same amount of socks you did against us.

Crouchy, who knew?

ex united/liverpool players have been giving us a bit of pleasure lately!

crouch last night
cisse during the week against liverpool
gibson beating city.
even roy did his bit beating chelsea a few weeks back!

then the united lads beating city at sunderland.

and i am sure theres more

MJRS

cambo2008 wrote: »

So we have no Saturday games left for the rest of the season.
That's a bit shìt.

Didn't even notice that. Might hafta change my day off to Sunday. And the odd sneaky Monday.

G.K.

City have a better squad than United.

United are superior at CB, and 1st choice wingers.

City have better FB, CM, overall winger and CF options.

They each have an exceptional young keeper with a flaw.

Justy my opinion, feel free to disagree.

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

God I love to go to another away game by end of season.

Would go to Wigan if it was on weekend as would be certain of ticket for it, but not hope I will get time of work I say.

mate, you wouldnt do me a huge favour and give me that ticket would you? i have one for myself, but i need one for a mate (big poster on here), as well, going to games on my own just doesnt appeal to me really, i havent booked the flights yet either.


i will return the favour like i do with anybody who sorts me out, you can use my membership to apply for aways next season for games like this.

homerjay2005

G.K. wrote: »

City have a better squad than United.

United are superior at CB, and 1st choice wingers.

City have better FB, CM, overall winger and CF options.

They each have an exceptional young keeper with a flaw.

Justy my opinion, feel free to disagree.

i dont think its opinion to see that united have had about 18 different players injured for more than 5 games this year, city have had about 5 or 6 yet united have a chance to go 3 points clear tomorrow. Citys injury problems have been about 25% of uniteds.

when city go down 3 or 4 players, they are in big big trouble and despite united still having many key players out (such as vidic, fletcher, valencia, nani, cleverly, anderson, lindegaard all in the past 4 weeks), we seem to be able to cope alot better.

that to me suggest that united have a much better squad. city have a stronger first 11, but only based on their CM options of Barry, de jong, yaya, milner, nasri etc etc when uniteds appear to be injured all the time and relying on bringing back scholes. i think uniteds big players are coming into form.

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years. their last 2 signings were hargreaves and pizarro ffs, hardly inspiring..

Mars Bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utd_fTfetrw

What was the manager thinking? Cofie was not impressed at all. Good to see him get his game at Antwerp.

enviro

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Will I Amnt

Mars Bar wrote: »

What was the manager thinking? Cofie was not impressed at all. Good to see him get his game at Antwerp.

Should have hit the deck when he seen the leg come up,turn him upside down with a sliding tackle

Mr.Crinklewood

Milkman Scholesy ( stolen from Redissue )

Son Of A Vidic

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years.

When Kompany was out, Mancini and their fans couldn't stop bítch moaning about it. One player they lost, yet at the time United had 17 guys on the treatment bench. If nothing else, it came across as being quite pathetic and embarrassing for City.

Adolf Hipster

kryogen wrote: »

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

I know alot of people here liked rvn and rated him as one of the best poachers in recent times...


How would people compare mario gomez to him? Tearing **** up in germany and probably the best poacher in the world at the moment imo.

I have debated this with people plenty of time, its far too early for me to go into all my thoughts on him again, but Ill say this, the man just scores goals. Wouldnt be his biggest fan in terms of his ability, but by fcuk does he score goals.

Have him backed to be Bundesliga top scorer, have him backed to be CL top scorer (fcuk you Messi) dont think there is a need for him at the club however

Oh I'm not saying we should buy him, price would be ridiculous, was just interested in how people would rate him compared to rvn in his prime.

G.K.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont think its opinion to see that united have had about 18 different players injured for more than 5 games this year, city have had about 5 or 6 yet united have a chance to go 3 points clear tomorrow. Citys injury problems have been about 25% of uniteds.

Not sure how this is relevant to my point?

homerjay2005 wrote: »

when city go down 3 or 4 players, they are in big big trouble and despite united still having many key players out (such as vidic, fletcher, valencia, nani, cleverly, anderson, lindegaard all in the past 4 weeks), we seem to be able to cope alot better.

That's down to 2 things, IMO. Manchester City are still gelling together and with Mancini's change of style this seaosn, while there has been much less change in terms of personnel and style with United. Also United have Fergie.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

that to me suggest that united have a much better squad. city have a stronger first 11, but only based on their CM options of Barry, de jong, yaya, milner, nasri etc etc when uniteds appear to be injured all the time and relying on bringing back scholes. i think uniteds big players are coming into form.

I don't quite follow you here.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years. their last 2 signings were hargreaves and pizarro ffs, hardly inspiring..

Harsh on a guy who had been one of Serie A's best and most consistent performers for a number of years previously.

kryogen

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

Oh I'm not saying we should buy him, price would be ridiculous, was just interested in how people would rate him compared to rvn in his prime.

I'd take Ruud over him personally. I'm sure Gomez has his supporters too though................somewhere.............

kryogen

How many games had Pizzaro got this season though? He was bought as cover, nothing wrong with that.

It took a bit of convincing but I now firmly believe that United do actually have a superior squad to City, not by that much, certainly not miles better, but significantly better imo.

Better strength in depth everywhere bar centre midfield really.

counterlock

G.K. wrote: »

Harsh on a guy who had been one of Serie A's best and most consistent performers for a number of years previously.

I think the point here is that if you spend 500 million you shouldn't be complaining about a weak squad

G.K.

kryogen wrote: »

How many games had Pizzaro got this season though? He was bought as cover, nothing wrong with that.

It took a bit of convincing but I now firmly believe that United do actually have a superior squad to City, not by that much, certainly not miles better, but significantly better imo.

Better strength in depth everywhere bar centre midfield really.

City have better Full Backs, Wingers (I think Nani-Valencia is the best pairing in the EPL, but City's depth is superior), CM and Forwards.

counterlock wrote: »

I think the point here is that if you spend 500 million you shouldn't be complaining about a weak squad

http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/man-city-need-more-creativity-from-deep-to-conquer-europe/
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7531746/david-pizarro-key-city-campaign-michael-cox

That would be my response to that.

RasTa

G.K. wrote: »

City have better Full Backs, Wingers (I think Nani-Valencia is the best pairing in the EPL, but City's depth is superior), CM and Forwards.

On the wing? Name them then because I can't think of any bar Johnson atm and he's not deemed good enough for games.

G.K.

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

RasTa

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Nah no chance, Valencia and Nani are better natural wingers then Silva.
Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs if needed for the last 20mins and Welbeck in a 4-3-3.

Adolf Hipster

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Silva - 7 Goals 18 Assists
Milner - 3 Goals 6 Assists
Nasri - 5 Goals 7 Assists

Total = 15 Goals - 31 Assists

Nani - 8 Goals 11 Assists
Valencia - 5 Goals 14 Assists
Young - 5 Goals 10 Assists.

Total = 18 Goals 35 Assists


There isn't much between them but I do think United shade it.

DM_7

United Clearly have the best wingers in the EPL.

City have better creative players that operate in central positions. Nasri and Silva may take to the field in wide positions but do their best work in Central Positions.

also Milner and Barry are not players I would ever fear playing. The fill the home grown quota I suppose.

I think United have the best squad in the league.

Lukekul

The many faces of Phil Jones

Friel

Haha thats brilliant.

VW 1

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Silva - 7 Goals 18 Assists
Milner - 3 Goals 6 Assists
Nasri - 5 Goals 7 Assists

Total = 15 Goals - 31 Assists

Nani - 8 Goals 11 Assists
Valencia - 5 Goals 14 Assists
Young - 5 Goals 10 Assists.

Total = 18 Goals 35 Assists


There isn't much between them but I do think United shade it.

That makes it look closer than it is, a lot of Silva and Nasri's assists probably came playing through the middle whereas Uniteds will have come almost exclusively from the wing.

Silva on form is the best player in the league for me but he is certainly not any kind of winger. The only time he plays as any form of a winger is when he floats out that direction in his free role.

enviro

VW 1 wrote: »

Silva on form is the best player in the league for me

World Class player on form alright but I don't think he stands out above some other world class players when on form as well like Rooney, RVP to name two.

Not in the same way Messi and Ronaldo are clearly the top two players in Spain on form.

Or did you mean best midfield player?

homerjay2005

right now, if i was given the choice who i would depend on to win my a league title, valencia/rooney v silva/ageuro., its the united pair every time, every game.

no contest for me.

markc1184

I see tomorrows Sun is showing Rio is to be offered a new contract.

MagicMarker

markc1184 wrote: »

I see tomorrows Sun is showing Rio is to be offered a new contract.

Not surprising.

VW 1

enviro wrote: »

VW 1 wrote: »

Silva on form is the best player in the league for me

World Class player on form alright but I don't think he stands out above some other world class players when on form as well like Rooney, RVP to name two.

Not in the same way Messi and Ronaldo are clearly the top two players in Spain on form.

Or did you mean best midfield player?

Yep midfield player, would have him just ahead of Modric and Yaya as the best midfielder.

homerjay2005

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

wheres me jumpa

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

A surprising mix of City, Spurs and Newcastle players!

Who would have thunk it?!

counterlock

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

I'd say rooney will def be on it!

Eathrin

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

A surprising mix of City, Spurs and Newcastle players!

Who would have thunk it?!

Can't think of many,
Rooney, Valencia could be in there.
Evans, De Gea maybe less likely.

Jimmy Iovine

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

Valencia might sneak in there. His run of 7 assists in 5 games came at just the right time. Up to that he was rubbish. Nani will definitely miss out which is a pity considering he was one of our best players before Christmas.

Bale, Silva, Kompany and RVP are all bankers imo. The rest not so much. These awards are ridiculous really though. They're voted for way too early in the season. Surely they could wait a few more months to take the whole season into account.

Mitch Connor

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

---

Krul

Richards-Kompany--Colochini--Enrique

Silva

---

Song--Parker--Bale

---

van Persie--Rooney

Reckon it could be something like that. Not happy with the balance of that midfield, but I think it could go that way. Bale and Silva are nailed on to be in it, and I reckon Parker is too so it would come down to whether Silva is voted as a winger or a central midfielder (based on a 442 formation). I reckon Britton could get in as a lot of pro's do like him and how he has done this season,but I think Song has been excellent this saeason.

Really, a lot depends on the voting for Bale and Silva.

Adolf Hipster

Mitch Connor wrote: »

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Owen was talking about team of the year tonight on twitter.

what do ye think it will be, bare in mind the voting is now complete. if it was picked now, which it is, i have a feeling that united may not get any players, but if it was picked at end of season, we probably would get 3 or 4.

---

Krul

Richards-Kompany--Colochini--Enrique

Silva

---

Song--Parker--Bale

---

van Persie--Rooney

Reckon it could be something like that. Not happy with the balance of that midfield, but I think it could go that way. Bale and Silva are nailed on to be in it, and I reckon Parker is too so it would come down to whether Silva is voted as a winger or a central midfielder (based on a 442 formation). I reckon Britton could get in as a lot of pro's do like him and how he has done this season,but I think Song has been excellent this saeason.

Really, a lot depends on the voting for Bale and Silva.

I think ba stands a better chance than rooney tbh.

willmunny1990

Mitch Connor wrote: »

---

Krul

Richards-Kompany--Colochini--Enrique

Silva

---

Song--Parker--Bale

---

van Persie--Rooney

Reckon it could be something like that. Not happy with the balance of that midfield, but I think it could go that way. Bale and Silva are nailed on to be in it, and I reckon Parker is too so it would come down to whether Silva is voted as a winger or a central midfielder (based on a 442 formation). I reckon Britton could get in as a lot of pro's do like him and how he has done this season,but I think Song has been excellent this saeason.

Really, a lot depends on the voting for Bale and Silva.

Joe Hart will be there over Krul for starters.

Song has no chance. yaya Toure has been miles better IMO. Modric too.

homerjay2005

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

I think ba stands a better chance than rooney tbh.

Ba has dipped since January.

as regards Silva, its only his early season form that would get him on it, he has been woefully average since december. if it was picked in a few weeks time and a straight shoot out between him and valencia, valencia would get the nod.

MagicMarker

Match Thread

Mitch Connor

see the cover of the latest issue of RedIssue?

Classlesss ****ers.



No need for it - I can't understand what the logic or motivation behind it is either; someone has lost the plot on this one.

Gives United fans in general a bad name too.

Paul Tergat

The dude from their was giving out some bs about it on his twitter account too. Shame they are associated with the club when they do **** like this

MagicMarker

Exactly what went through their heads when they thought that up?

Leiva

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see the cover of the latest issue of RedIssue?

Classlesss ****ers.



No need for it - I can't understand what the logic or motivation behind it is either; someone has lost the plot on this one.

Gives United fans in general a bad name too.

Jeez thats a disgrace .

Is it a popular publication or just a small group of idiots ?

stesaurus

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see the cover of the latest issue of RedIssue?

Classlesss ****ers.



No need for it - I can't understand what the logic or motivation behind it is either; someone has lost the plot on this one.

Gives United fans in general a bad name too.

That's just idiotic. I 'can' see their point but this is not the time or place to be raising it.

Surprised this hasn't been picked up upon by opposition fans more.

RasTa

mixednuts wrote: »

Jeez thats a disgrace .

Is it a popular publication or just a small group of idiots ?

It's a decent read, no idea how many they sell. Always at least 5-10 sellers on match day's. It really does remind me of the Slate, ie they will take the piss out of anything.

Leiva

RasTa wrote: »

It's a decent read, no idea how many they sell. Always at least 5-10 sellers on match day's. It really does remind me of the Slate, ie they will take the piss out of anything.

There are limits but ?

lordgoat

RasTa wrote: »

It's a decent read, no idea how many they sell. Always at least 5-10 sellers on match day's. It really does remind me of the Slate, ie they will take the piss out of anything.

I have no problem with taking the piss inappropriately (Amongst friends) but from reading his tweets there's a edge to it. He's come across as a prize winning douche. And i hate that he's a united fan.