Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Jax Teller

G.K. wrote: »

Because they got 23m for selling Lescott to city, they had some stuff to spend.

Signed Fellaini the year before Lescott left .


http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/fellaini-becomes-record-signing.html

G.K.

Did they? *genuinely surprised*

enviro

What a player this man was for us... legend. The control @2.13 is just exquisite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9y3oAdj5Y

DM_7

G.K. wrote: »

Did they? *genuinely surprised*

Andy Johnson was sold for a big fee that summer.

Pro. F

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm not sure how you can say Pogba is not good on the ball, I would be of the opinion that that's one of his strong points! Not that it really matters at the end of the day seeing as even if he stays he won't be first choice.

He's great at striking the ball - shooting and long passes and the like. But his first touch is woeful imo.

onemorechance

. . . injuries table 2011 - 2012!

Resist the urge to get annoyed if it's a re-post! :pac:



(c) http://www.physioroom.com

TheTownie

We missed a trick with Axel Witsel. Went for peanuts to Benfica from Standard Liege last summer and if you wanted him now you'd be talking ~£20M.

Kylo Ren

TheTownie wrote: »

We missed a trick with Axel Witsel. Went for peanuts to Benfica from Standard Liege last summer and if you wanted him now you'd be talking ~£20M.

tbh we missed the trick with a bajillion players.

Professey Chin

That injury table is fcuking shocking

TheTownie

Keno 92 wrote: »

tbh we missed the trick with a bajillion players.

Indeed. He just sprung to mind as a recent one...

TheTownie

onemorechance wrote: »

. . . injuries table 2011 - 2012!

Resist the urge to get annoyed if it's a re-post! :pac:

So which is it..

Are we unlucky?
Is the pre-season not right?
Are the medical staff doing a poor job?
Do we have too many injury prone players?

or the most likely reason, a combination of all four?

djPSB

Michael Owen is responsible for alot of them injuries!!

Owen_S

Does it include Owen Hargreaves for city?

Professey Chin

djPSB wrote: »

Michael Owen is responsible for alot of them injuries!!

A lot of days but only 1 injury listed on physio room O_o

Heres the full list

areu4real?

Seen this on goal.com
His flat is gone up for rent so he's going somewhere! :P

Borussia Dortmund midfielder Shinji Kagawa has fuelled speculation surrounding a possible move to the Premier League after putting his flat up for rent.

The 23-year-old has been heavily linked with a transfer to Manchester United, who have in fact been trailing the BVB player for some time now, as Goal.com first revealed in April.

A deal looked increasingly likely after Sir Alex Ferguson travelled to Berlin to watch the Japanese in the DFB Pokal final, where the Dortmund man scored one and set-up another.

The player's agent has also confirmed talks with the Scot have taken place, while Kagawa himself said that he would love to play in the Premier League.

In a new revelation, Kagawa has put his flat up for rent online. There is yet to be any interest but it is expected to be resolved soon, paving the way for a move to England.

United's current top Asian import, Ji-Sung Park, has been quoted saying that the attacking midfielder would do well at the club.

Kylo Ren

areu4real? wrote: »

Seen this on goal.com
His flat is gone up for rent so he's going somewhere! :P

This just in:

Shinji Kagawa has been spotted in a local restaurant this evening. He ordered the steak medium rare. Danny Welbeck is known to also like his steak prepared this way THEREFORE HE IS MOVING TO THE MANCHESTER UNITED.

MagicMarker

Jesus, I hope he has enough for a deposit on a place in Manchester, that's always annoying when you want to move but you can't afford the damned deposit!

Hope Utd can give him an advance on his wages to sort him out.

TheTownie

Bild are reporting Utd have agreed personal terms with Kagawa, claiming its ~£100K/week incl. image rights. Apparently he will fly into Manchester in the next few days to formalise the deal.

Daily Fail also reporting the deal is close to completion and attribute the following quote to Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke;

"both sides want to conclude the deal"

Samich

Shinji Kagawa is very close to fulfilling his dream of playing in the English Premier League. Kagawa’s transfer from Borussia Dortmund to Manchester United is entering the home stretch. As far as Manchester United is concerned, the clubs have in essence agreed on transfer terms.

Borussia Dortmund Director of Sport Michael Zorc, who does not normally comment on personnel deals until they are completed even if signatures have already been made, has not confirmed completion of the deal to kicker. Zorc stated “The transfer is not yet complete.”

Reliable sources in England (isn’t that an oxymoron?) are already reporting solid deal numbers. BVB would get an up-front transfer fee of around 15 million Euros. This can be increased by another seven-figure sum if certain “success standards” are reached by Manchester United. By the reported numbers, Borussia Dortmund is making a profit of around 4300 percent on Kagawa. Just two years ago, the Westfalen club paid just a “training compensation” of just 350,000 Euros for Kagawa.

49 Bundesliga appearances, 21 goals and 12 assists later, the Japanese attacking midfielder will fulfill his dream of playing in the Premier League. Kagawa will sign a long-term contract in Manchester. His contract in Dortmund would have expired after next season (June 2013).

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Samich

Hazards latest tweet

It was a very difficult choice between the european champions, premier league champions and the charity shield winners. The charity shield is a very important competion I want to play in. Manchester united didn't qualify for it this year, thats why despite their great history I turned them down first.

Adolf Hipster

areu4real? wrote: »

Seen this on goal.com
His flat is gone up for rent so he's going somewhere! :P

The 23-year-old has been heavily linked with a transfer to Manchester United, who have in fact been trailing the BVB player for some time now, as Goal.com first revealed in April.

Throw enough shít at the wall and some of it will stick.

Samich

Also browsing the city forums, they reckon powell is the next Gerrard. Any more reports of him signing?

Samich

Mohamad Diame from Wigan would be a great capture, his contract is up I think too?

Jimmy Iovine

Samich wrote: »

Hazards latest tweet

Is that supposed to be funny?

Samich

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Is that supposed to be funny?

Yes.

Professional Griefer

Powell could well be the next Gerrard, but he could also be the next no one. At that age its hard to tell. Would love to see us buy him then loan him out for a bit.
And Diame, no. Apparently he was meant to be going to Liverpool, but thats broken down.

Giggsy11

Pro. F wrote: »

You can't include Fletcher. And Anderson is a liability defensively (although he is good at tackling when he tries). But we do have Jones as back-up for Carrick, so that's two defensive minded midfielders. And Pogba too as you say, if he stays.

The problem is none of them are good enough on the ball. So they are part of the reason why the team struggles to hold onto and use possession. So an upgrade in that position for the first team would be a big help. Then Carrick and Jones could be there for back-up and Pogba could fùck off.

A replacement for Scholes is needed too. My preference would be somebody young and cheepish who could fight with Cleverley for the spot in the first team. Powell sounds good for that.

Pogba is far from defensive player. At least that was his weak point playing for reserves. He used his strength to good extent but he is not defensive player at all. He is attacking player with quick feet and trickery. He did play deeper very few times but no where near good enough even at reserves level.

TheTownie wrote: »

We missed a trick with Axel Witsel. Went for peanuts to Benfica from Standard Liege last summer and if you wanted him now you'd be talking ~£20M.

Watched him for Belgium against Montenegro. He was class. His pass that led to the first goal was very good, he has everything in his locker. Like you said team crying for a CM, he was a big miss.

Giggsy11

Samich wrote: »

Hazards latest tweet

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Is that supposed to be funny?

Samich wrote: »

Yes.

At least follow the twitter rules, you can't use more than 140 characters. :pac:

daveyboy_1ie

Hopefully some official news will appear today for Kagawa. It will be interesting to see if the actual fee is released too, as anything from £12M plus peformance related instalments to a straight £20M fee. Either way it looks like United finally got their 'value for money' signing in midfield. Hopefully its just the first.

MagicMarker

There won't be anything "official" until the deal is done and medical completed etc. Isn't Kagawa in Japan for internationals? If so then there probably won't be any confirmed signing for quite a while.

daveyboy_1ie

Does he have a Twitter account?

Mitch Connor

MagicMarker wrote: »

There won't be anything "official" until the deal is done and medical completed etc. Isn't Kagawa in Japan for internationals? If so then there probably won't be any confirmed signing for quite a while.

Yep - WC qualifiers on June 3rd and 8th, so a good chance we won't hear anything until after then.

Really do hope we make a few early signings, don't want to be panicing in August, again.

homerjay2005

i am hoping Powell turns out to be another chris smalling (in terms of development, ability and presence in the team, no positional) and turns into a class player who will be an england international within 12 months of signing for us.

daveyboy_1ie

Powell is someone that has me a little excited too, he looks like someone who has huge potential alright. All things considered Smalling was a bargain at £10M, he really is a class player.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Really do hope we make a few early signings, don't want to be panicing in August, again.

Exactly, was expecting a little more urgency this summer and I am surprised nothing has happened as of yet. Maybe none of Fergie's first choice targets are playing in the Euro's.

MagicMarker

I'm surprised I've heard nothing of Clyne, that was all but done in January if the papers were to be believed but there's been nothing said about it so far since the end of the season.

Macca07

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Watched him for Belgium against Montenegro. He was class. His pass that led to the first goal was very good, he has everything in his locker. Like you said team crying for a CM, he was a big miss.

Whatever happened to us being linked to Steven Defour? The way people were talking, he was practically a United player.

MagicMarker

Christ, caughtoffside are reporting that we've made "enquiries" about Adam Johnson.



Do they even think of this crap before they write it?

kippy

MagicMarker wrote: »

Christ, caughtoffside are reporting that we've made "enquiries" about Adam Johnson.



Do they even think of this crap before they write it?

Why is it so outlandish?

Jax Teller

kippy wrote: »

Why is it so outlandish?

Think we are stocked up on Wingers .

kippy

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Think we are stocked up on Wingers .

Maybe someone thinks he can play in a different position??

It does amaze me sometimes that players get completely pigeon holed into certain very well defined positions.

G.K.

It's Adam Johnson, not Lucas Moura. He's a winger.

Mitch Connor

He is young.

He is english.

He is versatile.

I'd be shocked if Fergie wasn't interested.

Very talented player, but finding life very difficult at City (as anyone with half a brain could have told him). Apparently doesn't help himself with his attitude though.

kippy

G.K. wrote: »

It's Adam Johnson, not Lucas Moura. He's a winger.

Just like Henry, Ronaldo, Bale, Rooney, Giggs.........etc etc
Lots and lots of players can play in various positions, to pigeon hole a player is foolish business.
To be honest, I think Johnson would be a great acquisition for any team. His growth as a player has been totally stunted at City, he's probably on crazy wages though and might be happy enough with his lot.

Mitch Connor

If Adam Johnson was available at a decent price, I actually can't think of a single premiership team that wouldn't be interested in him - maybe Chelsea with Hazard, Marin, De Bryune (sp), Maluda and Sturidge all capable of playing that wing position - but even then they'd surely consider it.

The guy is clearly very talented.

MagicMarker

The guy would be a moron to come to Utd, all he'd be doing is swapping one bench for another. He needs to go somewhere where he'll be in the starting XI week in week out.

Giggsy11

As if City will sell us even if we are interested and he wants out.

Your Airbag

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Powell could well be the next Gerrard, but he could also be the next no one. At that age its hard to tell. Would love to see us buy him then loan him out for a bit.
And Diame, no. Apparently he was meant to be going to Liverpool, but thats broken down.

Would love to see us buy him then play him.

Jax Teller

Your Airbag wrote: »

Would love to see us buy him then play him.

Ahead of who ?

Patsy fyre

The day that united start buying man city rejects will be a dark day in the history of the club.

Mitch Connor

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Ahead of who ?

I don't see him being first choice next season, but at the same time I would be surprised if we loaned him out unless he, himself, requested it as part of the move to United. Given he can seemingly play up front or off the front man (central midfield also mooted, maybe further down the line though) i reckon he could get game time as a 'number 10' after Rooney and, hopefully, Kagawa, and as 4th or 5th choice forward, depending on loans to other young players.

Replacing Berbatov and Owen with Kagawa and Powel.