Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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ROCKMAN wrote: »

Anyone know if Wednesdays Wigan game is on TV ,
Sky have a live football special listed by no details ...

No, don't think it is. I think I remember seeing a local pub saying they have it but it's not on regular television.

Mitch Connor

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Anyone know if Wednesdays Wigan game is on TV ,
Sky have a live football special listed by no details ...

it is not on tv according to ManUtd.com. QPR vs Swansea is the Sky game, Juventus vs someone else is the game on ESPN.

Blatter

What I'd do for tomorrow is pick;

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de Gea

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Rafael

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Smalling

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Evans

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Evra
Valencia----Carrick

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Giggs

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Young

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Rooney

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Welbeck

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Then give Nani half an hour for Valencia (if we're comfortable, Young if the game is still in the balance) and Fabio for Evra also if we're comfortable, and/or Pogba/Cleverley for Carrick.

Then for Wigan I'd pick;

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de Gea

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Rafael

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Evans

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Ferdinand

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Evra
Valencia

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Carrick

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Scholes

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Nani

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Rooney

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Hernandez

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4 changes between the two games that shouldn't disrupt the team too much and keep them fresh.

The_Kew_Tour

Blatter wrote: »

Then give Nani half an hour for Valencia (if we're comfortable, Young if the game is still in the balance) and Fabio for Evra also if we're comfortable, and/or Pogba/Cleverley for Carrick.




4 changes between the two games that shouldn't disrupt the team too much and keep them fresh.

Like your thinking there. Only thing I might change would be swapping Chico for QPR game and Welbeck for Wigan.

People seem be talking sense tonight.:D

Blatter

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Like your thinking there. Only thing I might change would be swapping Chico for QPR game and Welbeck for Wigan.

People seem be talking sense tonight.:D

Nah, I'd play Welbeck v QPR for a couple of reasons.

1. QPR will park the bus so we will have to be patient and keep the ball moving. We all know Welbeck is much better at this as with Hernandez an awful lot of our moves break down because of his average build up play. Welbeck also didn't start the last game, so should be fresher.

2. Wigan generally play with a higher line, especially at home and will have a go at us. This suits Hernandez' game much better as he'll find it easier to run in behind them. He scored twice away to them last season as a result of this.

Shy_Dave!

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

Will I Amnt

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

I'm a fan of Hoilett.Up there with the best young talent in the EPL at the moment.
I'd like to see him at United but only if we have a CM coming in with him.I'll do my nut if we sign a winger and no CM.

I had a dream the other night he signed for Barca and ran amok against us,I woke up thinking he was a bit of a bollox but by the end of the match I was playing meself and it was in Tesco carpark :rolleyes:

G.K.

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

Good thinking.

d22ontour

Blatter wrote: »

Nah, I'd play Welbeck v QPR for a couple of reasons.

1. QPR will park the bus so we will have to be patient and keep the ball moving. We all know Welbeck is much better at this as with Hernandez an awful lot of our moves break down because of his average build up play. Welbeck also didn't start the last game, so should be fresher.

2. Wigan generally play with a higher line, especially at home and will have a go at us. This suits Hernandez' game much better as he'll find it easier to run in behind them. He scored twice away to them last season as a result of this.

Welbeck has started a lot of our recent games and has been quite poor in most of them, Chico didn't have a great game against Blackburn but yet got himself into two great scoring chances with him fluffing one and hitting the post with the other, Welbeck hasn't being doing anything like that recently imo, he can hold the ball up well one minute then make a balls out of it the next.

Mikeyt086

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

I really like Junior Hoilett. He is a dangerous young winger, if he was to come to United he could be a very useful player in the future if he was given time, I mean the same time Nani has been given, to develop into a top player.

Considering he would be on a free, paying maybe £2-3m in compensation, he would cost the same as Gabriel Obertan. I would like to see it to be honest.

Not totally unrealistic as well. Fergie will have noticed his enthusiastic displays against us and will likely be monitoring his situation.

Nalz

d22ontour wrote: »

Welbeck hasn't being doing anything like that recently imo, he can hold the ball up well one minute then make a balls out of it the next.

Even though they are different players the exact same can be said for Chico. I suppose he hasn't got a decent run in the side though. I think their movement is both their strong points. Chico inside the box and Welbeck moreso outside the area. Its always a tough call who to pick.

Blatter

d22ontour wrote: »

Welbeck has started a lot of our recent games and has been quite poor in most of them, Chico didn't have a great game against Blackburn but yet got himself into two great scoring chances with him fluffing one and hitting the post with the other, Welbeck hasn't being doing anything like that recently imo, he can hold the ball up well one minute then make a balls out of it the next.

Welbeck was poor against Fulham alright (as were most of the team) but I though he played very well against both Wolves and West Brom in the previous games, albeit he was on the wing.

When we're camped inside the oppositions half, it can be very frustrating seeing attack after attack break down because of Hernandez. He gives the ball away a lot and when he does make a pass, it's usually the wrong option or he puts too much pace on it or not enough. You can tell that side of the game doesn't come naturally to him.

d22ontour

Blatter wrote: »

He gives the ball away a lot and when he does make a pass, it's usually the wrong option or he puts too much pace on it or not enough.

Reading that part can be about either player in fairness, Danny has a lot to improve on regarding positioning imo, Chico doesn't retain the ball that well at times.
Danny hasn't got the ability to make the space for chances just yet nor may he ever be as clinical as Chico when it comes to that positioning, possibly...
He is unorthodox with his holding,releasing,shooting, someone said here before almost Kanu like which is kinda true, he does seem to have a lot of potential in many areas which would surpass Chico but i don't think he will ever be as ruthless in the box.

kryogen

I would be of the opinion that Welbecks movement and position is very good actually, he gets himself in great positions, but he is not as clinical as he needs to be yet.

Nalz

kryogen wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that Welbecks movement and position is very good actually, he gets himself in great positions, but he is not as clinical as he needs to be yet.

I agree.

RasTa

Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah Welbeck(address him by his proper title ya little bollocks ) is only 21 so I wouldn't worry about much atm, seems to be the real deal imo.

Professional Griefer

kryogen wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that Welbecks movement and position is very good actually, he gets himself in great positions, but he is not as clinical as he needs to be yet.

Agree with this. Only thing that sets him apart from Hernandez for me is that he can pass, Javier is very poor at passing.

Can't wait till the game tomorrow, or this morning. Have a good feeling about it. Pretty confident Arsenal will at least get a point, hopefully 3 points.

Adolf Hipster

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

kryogen wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that Welbecks movement and position is very good actually, he gets himself in great positions, but he is not as clinical as he needs to be yet.

Agree with this. Only thing that sets him apart from Hernandez for me is that he can pass, Javier is very poor at passing.

Can't wait till the game tomorrow, or this morning. Have a good feeling about it. Pretty confident Arsenal will at least get a point, hopefully 3 points.

Welbeck with chicos clinical finishing would be something to behold!

MagicMarker

Match Thread

dahat

My son is at the game today with his school on his first school trip,1st year,just text me to say he is in the stretford end........:D
Hope we get plenty goals for him and his classmates today

Jax Teller

So with Nani not involved today id say he will start against Wigan with Valencia on bench just to keep him fresh .

Jimmy Iovine

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

So with Nani not involved today id say he will start against Wigan with Valencia on bench just to keep him fresh .

Don't be at that now. I've only just brought Valencia into my fantasy team. I need him to start on Wednesday to justify the transfer .

lordgoat

dahat wrote: »

My son is at the game today with his school on his first school trip,1st year,just text me to say he is in the stretford end........:D
Hope we get plenty goals for him and his classmates today

My little brother's first game was Utd Vs Villa with Ronaldo (x2) and that Macheda goal. I rang him just after it went in. One of my fondest memories, he couldn't hear a thing i was saying. And all i could hear was the roar.


C'mon united.

Mikeyt086

dahat wrote: »

My son is at the game today with his school on his first school trip,1st year,just text me to say he is in the stretford end........:D
Hope we get plenty goals for him and his classmates today

What?!?!?!

When I was in school, a school trip was a ****ty bus to that poxy Dubvlinia Dublin-Viking expo in feckin temple bar. Now they go and see United?

Disgusted.

Will I Amnt

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

What?!?!?!

When I was in school, a school trip was a ****ty bus to that poxy Dubvlinia Dublin-Viking expo in feckin temple bar. Now they go and see United?

Disgusted.

Yea that or Clara Lara if you were really lucky.

Kylo Ren

Photo Island sure.

VW 1

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

dahat wrote: »

My son is at the game today with his school on his first school trip,1st year,just text me to say he is in the stretford end........:D
Hope we get plenty goals for him and his classmates today

What?!?!?!

When I was in school, a school trip was a ****ty bus to that poxy Dubvlinia Dublin-Viking expo in feckin temple bar. Now they go and see United?

Disgusted.

I'm with you Mikey 5 trips in a row to the Brefni adventure centre in Cavan was as far as i got on school trips.

Delighted with the 3 points and the goal for Scholes, Raf and Carrick very unlucky and Welbeck should have done better.

Let's keep marching on, over to you city.

Adolf Hipster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GvubZ55bTY

Love that video.

IvySlayer

So...Arsenal, go beat City there.

Jimmy Iovine

Although he had almost nothing to do Jonny Evans was great again. His block in the first half after Rafael's mistake was vital. Then his calmness on the ball in the second half was great as well. He has the confidence now to look for the ball and step out of the defence like Rio used to do a few years ago. He played a bloody one two with Welbeck and very nearly got him in on goal at one stage.

The best for me was one stage when Carrick dropped short and Evans told him to get lost. He took on the ball and then 3 or 4 passes later there was a shot on goal. He has the confidence to tell other players to get lost because he knows he can do something that they can. This allows Carrick and Scholes or Cleverley to move into the centre and run the game in there.

5 clean sheets in a row as well. Our defence has been immense lately. Long may it continue.

J. Marston

5 Premier League clean sheets in a row now.

Nalz

cambo2008 wrote: »

Yea that or Clara Lara if you were really lucky.

Jaysus fancy pants. Coca cola factory and glendalough were as good as it got for me.

Come on Arsenal!

Jimmy Iovine

lordgoat wrote: »

My little brother's first game was Utd Vs Villa with Ronaldo (x2) and that Macheda goal. I rang him just after it went in. One of my fondest memories, he couldn't hear a thing i was saying. And all i could hear was the roar.


C'mon united.

My first game was against Spurs when Mendez 'scored' that goal. We were way up in the upper tier behind the goal so we couldn't fully see that it went over the line. We went back to the hotel after and I couldn't believe how lucky we were.

I've seen them about 5/6 times since then and thankfully I haven't seen them lose yet. I'm kind of a good luck charm :P.

Patsy fyre

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

My first game was against Spurs when Mendez 'scored' that goal. We were way up in the upper tier behind the goal so we couldn't fully see that it went over the line. We went back to the hotel after and I couldn't believe how lucky we were.

I've seen them about 5/6 times since then and thankfully I haven't seen them lose yet. I'm kind of a good luck charm :P.

My first game aswel....conincidence!
Was down at the other end and I could tell it was over the line, aswel as everyone around us.
Remember an extremely raw Cristiano Ronaldo who simply ran up and down the line without ever touching the ball and getting a tongue lashing from one Roy Keane.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

What?!?!?!

When I was in school, a school trip was a ****ty bus to that poxy Dubvlinia Dublin-Viking expo in feckin temple bar. Now they go and see United?

Disgusted.

I played St. Andrews in first year and Carnoustie in second year.:cool:

Never got to go to see United, though.:(

Eathrin

My first game was Utd vs Crytal Palace in 2004
We won 5-2, Scholesy with a debatable hat-trick and a very raw Rooney in action.

Paul Tergat

Mine was Sheff Wednesday in 93

How can you not be hooked after that?

The_Kew_Tour

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Mine was Sheff Wednesday in 93

How can you not be hooked after that?

Was at that game too was about my 5th time at OT by then.

Hard to believe its 19 years ago now.

Man im old and the lack of hair proves it:pac:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Can't remember my first game very well. Was against Charlton in 2004ish. 2-0 and I think Van Nistelrooy and Giggs scored, not sure, though.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was at that game too was about my 5th time at OT by then.

Hard to believe its 19 years ago now.

Man im old and the lack of hair proves it:pac:

And to make you feel older, I wasn't even born!:P

Paul Tergat

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was at that game too was about my 5th time at OT by then.

Hard to believe its 19 years ago now.

Man im old and the lack of hair proves it:pac:

I was just gone 7 at the time so im still holding out for a few years being a pro footballer

baz2009 wrote: »

And to make you feel older, I wasn't even born!:P

ugh

Professional Griefer

Mine was 1-1 against West Brom a few years ago, giggs free.

Best match was the CL game against Milan, Rooney with last minute winner, 3-2.

The_Kew_Tour

baz2009 wrote: »

And to make you feel older, I wasn't even born!:P

you forgot to mention your more mature then me too if some of my expoliots in soccer forum are to go by:pac:

G.K.

baz2009 wrote: »

And to make you feel older, I wasn't even born!:P

*hifive for young people*

markc1184

My first United match was in November '94 for my 10th birthday. It was a 5-0 win against City with Kanchelskis scoring a hat trick. Still the only Manchester derby I've been to!!

RiseToTheTop

I woulda been 6 at the time.

The_Kew_Tour

markc1184 wrote: »

My first United match was in November '94 for my 10th birthday. It was a 5-0 win against City with Kanchelskis scoring a hat trick. Still the only Manchester derby I've been to!!

If I remember correctly that was on a thursday night of all nights...

G.K.

markc1184 wrote: »

My first United match was in November '94 for my 10th birthday. It was a 5-0 win against City with Kanchelskis scoring a hat trick. Still the only Manchester derby I've been to!!

Solid 2 months old then. :pac:

markc1184

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If I remember correctly that was on a thursday night of all nights...

Can't remember the day exactly but something was telling me Tuesday, you may be right though with the Thursday.

G.K. wrote: »

Solid 2 months old then. :pac:

Your only a child! lol

The_Kew_Tour

Back in our day there was no such thing as mobile phones or internet, now look what ye have:p