Fantasy Euro 2012

manual_man

Munster Magic wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

i'd say leave the bidding as close to the start as possible. personally i want to have the best idea who's in the starting 11 for each team

The problem with leaving it until near the first game is that it will probably take 3 or 4 rounds of bidding for everyone to finish their squads

Ah ok. I get ya. How many days do ya reckon that would take?? Agree we don't wanna leave it too late. But find a balance, ya know. June 8th the big kick off

edit just after looking at the friendlies roster, most will be completed on Sat 02nd June. Maybe start the bidding on Sunday 03rd?? Or do you think that would be cutting it tight??

swoody

manual_man wrote: »

Ah ok. I get ya. How many days do ya reckon that would take?? Agree we don't wanna leave it too late. But find a balance, ya know. June 8th the big kick off

edit just after looking at the friendlies roster, most will be completed on Sat 02nd June. Maybe start the bidding on Sunday 03rd?? Or do you think that would be cutting it tight??

what time next week then....? and will it like the NFL Fantasy Daft but with mula? is there a practice draft/auction available before the real deal?

Munster Magic

Captain Bob wrote: »

waiting for approval: Amkar Championov

Approved

carlcon wrote: »

Are we doing the "hardened fantasy league veteran with 18 in a squad" one, or the "quick punchy version with 11 men in the squad" one? Or somewhere in the middle?

The suggested settings of 15 players, 100m, 2 from a country, and limited transfers seems like something we're all used to.

Im happy to go with the suggested rules if everyone else is

manual_man wrote: »

Ah ok. I get ya. How many days do ya reckon that would take?? Agree we don't wanna leave it too late. But find a balance, ya know. June 8th the big kick off

edit just after looking at the friendlies roster, most will be completed on Sat 02nd June. Maybe start the bidding on Sunday 03rd?? Or do you think that would be cutting it tight??

We would want to allow for four bidding rounds just in case and try and have them done before Friday the 8th, what about the following:

Round 1: Deadline midnight Sunday June 3rd
Round 2: Monday June 4th 12pm until midnight
Round 3: Tuesday June 5th 12pm until midnight
Round 4: Wednesday June 6th 12pm until midnight

swoody wrote: »

what time next week then....? and will it like the NFL Fantasy Daft but with mula? is there a practice draft/auction available before the real deal?

Dont think there is any practice auction, have a look above for suggested dates

manual_man

Munster Magic wrote: »

Captain Bob wrote: »

waiting for approval: Amkar Championov

Approved

carlcon wrote: »

Are we doing the "hardened fantasy league veteran with 18 in a squad" one, or the "quick punchy version with 11 men in the squad" one? Or somewhere in the middle?

The suggested settings of 15 players, 100m, 2 from a country, and limited transfers seems like something we're all used to.

Im happy to go with the suggested rules if everyone else is

manual_man wrote: »

Ah ok. I get ya. How many days do ya reckon that would take?? Agree we don't wanna leave it too late. But find a balance, ya know. June 8th the big kick off

edit just after looking at the friendlies roster, most will be completed on Sat 02nd June. Maybe start the bidding on Sunday 03rd?? Or do you think that would be cutting it tight??

We would want to allow for four bidding rounds just in case and try and have them done before Friday the 8th, what about the following:

Round 1: Deadline midnight Sunday June 3rd
Round 2: Monday June 4th 12pm until midnight
Round 3: Tuesday June 5th 12pm until midnight
Round 4: Wednesday June 6th 12pm until

Sounds good to me chief

Maybe just get the emails of everyone involved, in case there not on here

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Munster Magic

carlcon wrote: »

The suggested settings of 15 players, 100m, 2 from a country, and limited transfers seems like something we're all used to.

Just thinking and would anyone else be interested in changing the players from each country to 3 instead of 2?

Munster Magic wrote: »

Anyone interested in doing a league for the game below? A bit different from other fantasy games in that there is an auction to buy the players so only one of us will have Ronaldo, Van Persie etc etc.

seems like it could be fun, need a minimum of five players

http://www.fantasyleague.com/Default.aspx

League Name: Boards.ie
League Code: 43962

League still open if anyone wants to join

carlcon

Has anyone stuck a head in over in soccer to let them know about the Euro FFs?

Munster Magic wrote: »

Just thinking and would anyone else be interested in changing the players from each country to 3 instead of 2?

I like 2 because it means a bigger variation in players, instead of having 3 Germans and 3 Spaniards taking up over half your first 11, and probably another 3 Russians, considering the groups.

Wouldn't be the end of the world if we said 3, but my vote (if one has a "vote") would be for 2.

manual_man

The only problem with 2 from a team is as the tournament progresses you'll want more players from the teams still in it, unless that number can be changed depending on the stage...

roryc

Anyone know the expected Russian front line? Half thinking about the FF Euro's and half about some Euro top goalscorer bets.

Kerzhakov and Pavlyuchenko are both at 66's, and Pogrebnyak is at 80's, although its hard to tell which front two will be rested. My head says Pog but it's hard to not play him after how he's performed for Fulham.

I can definitely see Russia smashing a few goals in, these prices will likely shorten closer to the Euros.

manual_man

I fancy Kerzhakov. He's had a super season for Zenit

carlcon

manual_man wrote: »

The only problem with 2 from a team is as the tournament progresses you'll want more players from the teams still in it, unless that number can be changed depending on the stage...

It would have to. They're not going to leave us with a maximum of only 4 players in the final (right?), that would be ridiculous.

Other knock-out FF's I've seen, like the CL one, have the 2 player limit, then increase as the tournament progresses, eventually leaving you with a full 11 for the final.

If that doesn't happen in this one, then I'm gonna lose interest fast. Whether we have 2, 3, or 6 players allowed from each team.

manual_man

carlcon wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

The only problem with 2 from a team is as the tournament progresses you'll want more players from the teams still in it, unless that number can be changed depending on the stage...

It would have to. They're not going to leave us with a maximum of only 4 players in the final (right?), that would be ridiculous.

Other knock-out FF's I've seen, like the CL one, have the 2 player limit, then increase as the tournament progresses, eventually leaving you with a full 11 for the final.

If that doesn't happen in this one, then I'm gonna lose interest fast. Whether we have 2, 3, or 6 players allowed from each team.

Tbh i dont know the mechanics of the thing. Maybe Munster Magic can clear it up for us

swoody

carlcon wrote: »

It would have to. They're not going to leave us with a maximum of only 4 players in the final (right?), that would be ridiculous.

Other knock-out FF's I've seen, like the CL one, have the 2 player limit, then increase as the tournament progresses, eventually leaving you with a full 11 for the final.

If that doesn't happen in this one, then I'm gonna lose interest fast. Whether we have 2, 3, or 6 players allowed from each team.

http://www.fantasyleague.com/ProEuro/Content/GameGuideTeamChanges.aspx

Country quotas and player classifications

When setting up the league, the chairman will set a limit on the number of players each manager may select from any real-life country, which could be a maximum of one, two, three or four players from any nation. Managers may not select more players from each country than the limit allows, and will be restricted from making their requested transfer if they try to exceed that limit.
The chairman can also increase the quota limits as the tournament progresses. For example, the quota could be set to a maximum of two players per country at the start of the tournament, and increased to four per country after the culmination of the last group stage game.

Transfer Windows and Sealed Bids

Fantasy League Pro Euro 2012 allows each manager to make transfers during the tournament, to get rid of dead wood, and bring in the latest starlet destined for greater glory.
Transfers are made through the Sealed Bids Engine, with 'transfer windows' set-up throughout the tournament.
The Sealed Bids Engine provides every manager with a protected area where bids are submitted and held until the transfer deadline. Once the deadline is passed, the system automatically compares the bids and a list of the winners (and losers) is shown.
The chairman can set up a league's bid windows whenever they want after the start of the tournament, setting a deadline much in the same way as in the Online Auction. You could have one transfer window in between the Group Stage and Knock Out Stage, or allow changes far more frequently by having more transfer windows at regular intervals of several days, perhaps after each set of matches in the Group Stage, and then again between each phase of the Knock Out Stage.

here's the players list to start planning your team....

http://www.fantasyleague.com/ProEuro/Stats/PlayerList.aspx

carlcon

Good. Starting off with 2 then doubling it when half the teams are knocked out after the groups seems like a reasonable approach.

Munster Magic

What does everyone else reckon, 2 or 3 from each team? Id nearly prefer have 3, just by going through it with only 2 and found it tricky enough

manual_man

3's good with me how about we increase it by 1 with every knockout round

swoody

i would like 2 and to keep it at 2 till the semis, but i'll be happy with whatever why we do it.
looking forward to the bidding wars!

BRING ON THE EUROS

Munster Magic

carlcon wrote: »

Good. Starting off with 2 then doubling it when half the teams are knocked out after the groups seems like a reasonable approach.

Munster Magic wrote: »

What does everyone else reckon, 2 or 3 from each team? Id nearly prefer have 3, just by going through it with only 2 and found it tricky enough

manual_man wrote: »

3's good with me how about we increase it by 1 with every knockout round

swoody wrote: »

i would like 2 and to keep it at 2 till the semis, but i'll be happy with whatever why we do it.
looking forward to the bidding wars!

BRING ON THE EUROS

So thats 2 in favour of keeping it at 2 players and 2 at changing it to 3, I will send a pm to the other 2 guys and see what they think

Are ye happy with the rest of the rules?


Squad Size:
15 players per team.

Auction Budget:
£100 million.

Tournament Budget:
£25 million, plus any budget left over from the auction.

Bid Increments:
£0.5 million increments for all bids.

Transfers:
Maximum of 20 transfers in the tournament;
Maximum of 10 transfers in Group Stage;
Maximum of 10 transfers in Knockout Stage.

Formations:
All three formations (4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2) available.

roryc

Sky Sports have also come out with their Fantasy Football. At first glance it doesn't look like much but when you delve deeper you can see that they have done analysis on players contribution in the qualifying stages, which is a great use when picking your fringe players.

It has a 'Qualifier Stats' tab and a totally new 'Compare Players' tab, although the latter only compares stats from Euro 2012. See below as an example of the qualifying stats:



I wouldn't have considered Rosicky before now, but 6 assists in his opening 9 qualifers is not a bad return at all, and Czech Republic have the easiest starting group. I wouldn't have even considered him up until seeing those stats. Even if you decide against playing this FF version, it's a goldmine for info...

Munster Magic

Copper pipe has voted to keep the rule of 2 players per country while captain bob has voted to change it to 3 players per country.

So that leaves us with a 3-3 draw, guess we will have to leave it at 2 players per country.

I will leave the league open until Saturday night if anyone else wants to enter, I will have to close it then to start the auction

swoody

roryc wrote: »

It has a 'Qualifier Stats' tab

also available from uefa.com:p

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/statistics/index.html

manual_man

Munster Magic wrote: »

Copper pipe has voted to keep the rule of 2 players per country while captain bob has voted to change it to 3 players per country.

So that leaves us with a 3-3 draw, guess we will have to leave it at 2 players per country.

I will leave the league open until Saturday night if anyone else wants to enter, I will have to close it then to start the auction

well whatever people are happy to go with we'll do that, i will say though it bears keeping in mind that we'll be bidding against 5 or 6 other people for the players we want, that was my thinking when saying 3 players from a team to start off with, it's good we're bidding against eachother it brings a new dynamic into it, but i think allowing for 3 players from a team in the group stages would hold the interest a bit more, given that no one manager is going to get 'exactly' the team they want anyway

Skippy44

Munster Magic wrote: »

Anyone interested in doing a league for the game below? A bit different from other fantasy games in that there is an auction to buy the players so only one of us will have Ronaldo, Van Persie etc etc.

seems like it could be fun, need a minimum of five players

http://www.fantasyleague.com/Default.aspx

League Name: Boards.ie
League Code: 43962

I've applied- The Q Tours. hope it's not too late..

Munster Magic

Skippy44 wrote: »

I've applied- The Q Tours. hope it's not too late..

No problem, whats your opinion on the 2 or 3 players per country rule?

manual_man wrote: »

well whatever people are happy to go with we'll do that, i will say though it bears keeping in mind that we'll be bidding against 5 or 6 other people for the players we want, that was my thinking when saying 3 players from a team to start off with, it's good we're bidding against eachother it brings a new dynamic into it, but i think allowing for 3 players from a team in the group stages would hold the interest a bit more, given that no one manager is going to get 'exactly' the team they want anyway

Thats what i was thinking, at the minute we have seven teams and everyone will want 2 Spain players but that cant happen with only 2 players per country, it may even turn out that one person has no Spain players so I just think it would be better with 3 but we will wait and see. Wont make any definate decision until Saturday when all players have entered and had their say on it

Copper_pipe

Munster Magic wrote: »

No problem, whats your opinion on the 2 or 3 players per country rule?



Thats what i was thinking, at the minute we have seven teams and everyone will want 2 Spain players but that cant happen with only 2 players per country, it may even turn out that one person has no Spain players so I just think it would be better with 3 but we will wait and see. Wont make any definate decision until Saturday when all players have entered and had their say on it

Your reasoning has shifted my decision to 3 players per country

Munster Magic

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Your reasoning has shifted my decision to 3 players per country

Ha, worried you might be the one to end up with no Spanish players:D

Copper_pipe

Munster Magic wrote: »

Ha, worried you might be the one to end up with no Spanish players:D

Ah, Maybe :P

Skippy44

Munster Magic wrote: »

No problem, whats your opinion on the 2 or 3 players per country rule?



Thats what i was thinking, at the minute we have seven teams and everyone will want 2 Spain players but that cant happen with only 2 players per country, it may even turn out that one person has no Spain players so I just think it would be better with 3 but we will wait and see. Wont make any definate decision until Saturday when all players have entered and had their say on it

3 per country does make sense in that respect, could be pricey tho. Will the quota be raised to 4 (or more) for the knockout stages?

Munster Magic

Skippy44 wrote: »

3 per country does make sense in that respect, could be pricey tho. Will the quota be raised to 4 (or more) for the knockout stages?

Yep, it will be raised for the knockout stages, probably 4 for the quarter and semi finals and 6 for the final if you can change it

swoody

Shotgun! on Mcshate & Biscuits FF gold those two.....:rolleyes:

Munster Magic wrote: »

Round 1: Deadline midnight Sunday June 3rd
Round 2: Monday June 4th 12pm until midnight
Round 3: Tuesday June 5th 12pm until midnight
Round 4: Wednesday June 6th 12pm until midnight

are these auction dates set now?

carlcon

Is 12 hours the maximum time per auction session?

I'm getting a flight at 10am on the 5th, and won't be landed until 9pm. So I'm in airports from roughly 7am-10pm, then making my way home. I have a 55min layover in-between, but I'm sure that'll be spent having my rights stripped by US immigration.

So unless we can get 18-24 hour sessions, I'm gonna have to pull out.

manual_man

I'm guessing each session will take a couple of hours or so. One session = for one position (GK, DEF, etc.), right?? In any case i think the only way to get it to work is to have a strict set time we all have to be online for, if anything doing two sessions at a time might be the way to go. So two sessions of two, asking all people to be online at the same time on 4 occasions is too much i think, 2 i think we could manage

roryc

Can you make an extra thread for this auction thing...

Munster Magic

carlcon wrote: »

Is 12 hours the maximum time per auction session?

I'm getting a flight at 10am on the 5th, and won't be landed until 9pm. So I'm in airports from roughly 7am-10pm, then making my way home. I have a 55min layover in-between, but I'm sure that'll be spent having my rights stripped by US immigration.

So unless we can get 18-24 hour sessions, I'm gonna have to pull out.

Im not exactly sure how the times will work tbh, have to wait until I can hit the enter auction button which I cant do until I close entries. I could close entries today or tommorrow i suppose, dont think we will get too many more to enter

Not sure if I can set a time for the auction to start and finish or if I have to be online to start and finish it

manual_man wrote: »

I'm guessing each session will take a couple of hours or so. One session = for one position (GK, DEF, etc.), right?? In any case i think the only way to get it to work is to have a strict set time we all have to be online for, if anything doing two sessions at a time might be the way to go. So two sessions of two, asking all people to be online at the same time on 4 occasions is too much i think, 2 i think we could manage

The way it works is you choose the 15 players you want in your squad and how much you want to bis for each player, within the £100m budget and you submit that before the deadline in round 1 of the bidding.

I will then process the bids and you will find out who you got and who you didnt. For example we will say you got 8 of the 15 players you bid for, you would then have to bid for 7 more players with your remaining budget before the deadline for round 2, same would happen for round 3 and 4 until you have a full squad

Munster Magic

roryc wrote: »

Can you make an extra thread for this auction thing...

Can do, any idea if I can transfer over the posts from this thread or how would i do it?

roryc

Cheers. Mods can clean it up after you make the new thread.

manual_man

Munster Magic wrote: »

carlcon wrote: »

Is 12 hours the maximum time per auction session?

I'm getting a flight at 10am on the 5th, and won't be landed until 9pm. So I'm in airports from roughly 7am-10pm, then making my way home. I have a 55min layover in-between, but I'm sure that'll be spent having my rights stripped by US immigration.

So unless we can get 18-24 hour sessions, I'm gonna have to pull out.

Im not exactly sure how the times will work tbh, have to wait until I can hit the enter auction button which I cant do until I close entries. I could close entries today or tommorrow i suppose, dont think we will get too many more to enter

Not sure if I can set a time for the auction to start and finish or if I have to be online to start and finish it

manual_man wrote: »

I'm guessing each session will take a couple of hours or so. One session = for one position (GK, DEF, etc.), right?? In any case i think the only way to get it to work is to have a strict set time we all have to be online for, if anything doing two sessions at a time might be the way to go. So two sessions of two, asking all people to be online at the same time on 4 occasions is too much i think, 2 i think we could manage

The way it works is you choose the 15 players you want in your squad and how much you want to bis for each player, within the £100m budget and you submit that before the deadline in round 1 of the bidding.

I will then process the bids and you will find out who you got and who you didnt. For example we will say you got 8 of the 15 players you bid for, you would then have to bid for 7 more players with your remaining budget before the deadline for round 2, same would happen for round 3 and 4 until you have a full squad

That makes alot more sense alright. So in theory any one of us will only have to be online for a few minutes on any given day. That's good. Let's just wait til after the games on Saturday and figure out a starting time for Auction 1

Munster Magic

roryc wrote: »

Cheers. Mods can clean it up after you make the new thread.

Moved to here

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78944775#post78944775

G.K.

I'm in. Beware.

Munster Magic

G.K. wrote: »

I'm in. Beware.

Is this the league on fantasyleague.com, if so do you mind me asking what your team name is? Thanks

swoody

Kylo Ren

Am I too late for the American style draft league lads?

Copper_pipe

Keno 92 wrote: »

Am I too late for the American style draft league lads?

Id say your ok, but send munster magic a PM to be sure

alchemist33

swoody wrote: »

You've got a good starting 11, but quite a weak bench tbh.

Munster Magic

Keno 92 wrote: »

Am I too late for the American style draft league lads?

Thread on it if you follow the link below, I will be closing entries tomorrow morning

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056655766

Kylo Ren

Applied there.

Name: DerekZoolander

Team Name: CenterForKidsWhoCantReadGood

alchemist33

It's very quiet in here. What's going on?

I've never done the substitutions within a gameday before. Can I substitute right up until five o'clock on a given day?

FatRat

Roman Shirokov got 2 goals and an assist against Italy the last night. 1 to watch with Russia having an easy group. Also.... Malafeev looking more likely to take the Goalkeeper role for Russia. He's started both their past two friendlies ahead of Akinfeev.

Czech defender Kadlec on spot-kicks for them. Worth a look for a reasonably cheap defender.

Wesley Sneijder with a goal and assist. RVP with 2 goals and 2 assists. RVP looking more and more likely to be a must-have. While Sneijder, along with Mesut Ozil, are just too consistent to overlook with Ozil getting another assist the last night.

Skippy44

alchemist33 wrote: »

It's very quiet in here. What's going on?

I've never done the substitutions within a gameday before. Can I substitute right up until five o'clock on a given day?

As far as I know you can replace a player (from your starting 11) who has previously played, with one from your subs bench, but not between 2 matches on a single day. Within a round of matches (ie group A-D) you can sub a player off before the deadline (15 mins before) for the next day's matches.

swoody

alchemist33 wrote: »

It's very quiet in here. What's going on?

I've never done the substitutions within a gameday before. Can I substitute right up until five o'clock on a given day?

yes!

Substitutions

Use the My Team page to select 11 players to form your team for the next Matchday. Your formation will automatically change based on the players you have chosen.
Your substitutes do not score points. However, once a Matchday has started you can choose to take control of your squad by making manager substitutions, or do nothing and allow automatic substitutions to take place at the end of the Matchday.

Manager substitutions


After all matches on a single day have finished and before the next matches start, you can:

1. Replace any player who wasn't sent off, with one from your bench whose team is yet to play.
2. Change your captain if he wasn't sent off, with a player from your squad whose team is yet to play.

Players who are substituted out will score 0 points, the captain bonus will be lost from your original captain if a new captain is selected. Substitutions and captain changes can't be cancelled once confirmed.
An unlimited number of manager substitutions can be made, however, it is not possible to make manager substitutions after games on the last day of the Matchday, as all fixtures will have been completed.
If a manager substitution or captain change is made then no automatic substitutions will take place on your team that Matchday.
Automatic substitutions

If no manager substitutions or captain changes are made, automatic substitutions will take place at the end of the Matchday, when all matches have been played.
If your goalkeeper plays no part in the Matchday, then the computer will substitute the player for your replacement goalkeeper, if they played in the Matchday.
If any of your outfield players play no part in the Matchday, then the computer will try to substitute the inactive player for one of your replacements. This is done by replacing them with your highest priority substitute who actually played in the Matchday. You can change your substitution priorities on the My Team page.

you can also change your captain after every gameday, as long as the one your picking hasnt played yet!