woman tries to jump consultants waiting list.

Fighting Irish

angry kitten wrote: »

I had an outpatient appointment in Galway last week and I was shocked and frankly, bloody disgusted by the attitude of a lady who tried to skip the waiting list. She walked into a packed waiting room full of public patients, everyone of whom, including myself, had been on the waiting list and we'd had to wait our turn on a long list to see a consultant.

She just walked in and demanded to be seen by a consultant. She had no referral and her GP hadn't written to request a consultation for her, she just seemed to feel that she is more important than everyone else. The real kicker was that she is Polish and started ranting that if she was in Poland she would be seen straight away and about how much better the Polish health service is. Well feck off back to the mother country love.

As if that weren't enough, judging by the row she was having with the nurse, the cheeky bitch had pulled exactly the same stunt the day before and the same nurse had explained the way things work to her the previous day. People with that attitude really piss me off. I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

Has anyone else come across this before.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Janedoe10

I would be angry too if some one tried to hop a queue .. It does not matter what nationality they are .
U don't know what the reason she wanted to see consultant however desperate times call for desperate measures .. I know a person who i s left to f***ing die before our very eyes because of our "first" class medical system can't figure out what's wrong meanwhile she is coughing up blood and in agony for 5 weeks because not all the tests are back . They won't have any one to treat soon . Her familys hands are tied as this regional hospital has refused To transfer to the centres of "excellence" as they say it's too soon . "too soon " for what . ? Her mam is threatening on going direct to the main medical team to ask what the delay is . Xxxx is too sick to care at this stage .

Ellis Dee

angry kitten wrote: »

I had an outpatient appointment in Galway last week and I was shocked and frankly, bloody disgusted by the attitude of a lady who tried to skip the waiting list. She walked into a packed waiting room full of public patients, everyone of whom, including myself, had been on the waiting list and we'd had to wait our turn on a long list to see a consultant.

She just walked in and demanded to be seen by a consultant. She had no referral and her GP hadn't written to request a consultation for her, she just seemed to feel that she is more important than everyone else. The real kicker was that she is Polish and started ranting that if she was in Poland she would be seen straight away and about how much better the Polish health service is. Well feck off back to the mother country love.

As if that weren't enough, judging by the row she was having with the nurse, the cheeky bitch had pulled exactly the same stunt the day before and the same nurse had explained the way things work to her the previous day. People with that attitude really piss me off. I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

Has anyone else come across this before.

I find that story a bit incredible, but there are silly people everywhere. Wasn't there any security at the clinic? In any clinics or hospitals I've been in too many, unfortunately), the security would have intervened at once and made her leave.:)

Why do you mention she was Polish, by the way. Do you think no Irish woman could ever be such a bitch?:rolleyes:

You really mustn't draw too many conclusions from analysis of a sample of one.

You last sentence is intriguing - three years to see a consultant? I'm in Finland now and saw a consultant last week, after a wait of about a month, and have been told I'll be called for a heart operation within 4 months. We have a law here, called the Treatment Guarantee, which sets time limits within which treatment must be provided, or else the health authority must pay for it in a private hospital. No one would have to wait longer than six months to see a consultant.:D

I suppose if I was in an Irish clinic I'd be tempted to point that out, but what would be the point?

angry kitten

mattjack wrote: »

How do you know the nurse explained all this the previous day ?

Because the nurse said 'I explained all this to you when you came in yesterday' in response to the womans insistence on being seen on Friday.

3ndahalfof6

angry kitten wrote: »

Because the nurse said 'I explained all this to you when you came in yesterday' in response to the womans insistence on being seen on Friday.

were you related to her.

angry kitten

Ellis Dee wrote: »

I find that story a bit incredible, but there are silly people everywhere. Wasn't there any security at the clinic? In any clinics or hospitals I've been in too many, unfortunately), the security would have intervened at once and made her leave.:)

Why do you mention she was Polish, by the way. Do you think no Irish woman could ever be such a bitch?:rolleyes:

You really mustn't draw too many conclusions from analysis of a sample of one.

You last sentence is intriguing - three years to see a consultant? I'm in Finland now and saw a consultant last week, after a wait of about a month, and have been told I'll be called for a heart operation within 4 months. We have a law here, called the Treatment Guarantee, which sets time limits within which treatment must be provided, or else the health authority must pay for it in a private hospital. No one would have to wait longer than six months to see a consultant.:D

I suppose if I was in an Irish clinic I'd be tempted to point that out, but what would be the point?

I've no doubt an Irish woman could be capable of the same thing. I've only experienced the Irish and UK health services and I've got to say the Irish system is, in my opinion much better. From what I've seen an awful lot of money has been spent on private hospitals during the boom years, now we're left with underfunded public hospital services that can't cope with the volume of patients. I think that the horrendously long waiting lists will only get longer as more people can't afford to pay for private health insurance.

angry kitten

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

were you related to her.

No, I'm not related to the nurse or the Polish lady.

_petulia_

angry kitten wrote: »

I've no doubt an Irish woman could be capable of the same thing. I've only experienced the Irish and UK health services and I've got to say the Irish system is, in my opinion much better. From what I've seen an awful lot of money has been spent on private hospitals during the boom years, now we're left with underfunded public hospital services that can't cope with the volume of patients. I think that the horrendously long waiting lists will only get longer as more people can't afford to pay for private health insurance.

I think an Irish woman would be as capable of it as a Polish woman tbh. I don't see what nationality has to do with this.

angry kitten

Janedoe10 wrote: »

I would be angry too if some one tried to hop a queue .. It does not matter what nationality they are .
U don't know what the reason she wanted to see consultant however desperate times call for desperate measures .. I know a person who i s left to f***ing die before our very eyes because of our "first" class medical system can't figure out what's wrong meanwhile she is coughing up blood and in agony for 5 weeks because not all the tests are back . They won't have any one to treat soon . Her familys hands are tied as this regional hospital has refused To transfer to the centres of "excellence" as they say it's too soon . "too soon " for what . ? Her mam is threatening on going direct to the main medical team to ask what the delay is . Xxxx is too sick to care at this stage .

You're right, I don't know what her reason for trying to skip the waiting list is. She had no idea what treatment I or any of the other patients who were waiting that day were undergoing with the neurologist. It isn't like skipping the queue at the doctors, every patient that is referred to a consultant is there because their gp feels they need to be seen by a specialist.

angry kitten

Nina_G wrote: »

I think an Irish woman would be as capable of it as a Polish woman tbh. I don't see what nationality has to do with this.

Nationality came into it in this case as the lady herself made an issue of it when she criticised the Irish system while trying to jump the waiting list. If she hadn't been ranting on and on about the superiority of the Polish system I would have had no idea what her nationality is. I doubt there would be many Irish women who tried to skip the waiting list arguing about the superiority of the Polish health service.

forfuxsake

angry kitten wrote: »

No, I'm not related to the nurse or the Polish lady.

so now she is a lady and not a bitch.:D

angry kitten

Ellis Dee wrote: »

I find that story a bit incredible, but there are silly people everywhere. Wasn't there any security at the clinic? In any clinics or hospitals I've been in too many, unfortunately), the security would have intervened at once and made her leave.:)

Why do you mention she was Polish, by the way. Do you think no Irish woman could ever be such a bitch?:rolleyes:

You really mustn't draw too many conclusions from analysis of a sample of one.

You last sentence is intriguing - three years to see a consultant? I'm in Finland now and saw a consultant last week, after a wait of about a month, and have been told I'll be called for a heart operation within 4 months. We have a law here, called the Treatment Guarantee, which sets time limits within which treatment must be provided, or else the health authority must pay for it in a private hospital. No one would have to wait longer than six months to see a consultant.:D

I suppose if I was in an Irish clinic I'd be tempted to point that out, but what would be the point?

I think we still have a similar Treatment Guarantee system, the problem is that a patient is given only 3 appointments with the consultant under our system. If the illness isn't resolved during those visits the patient goes back into the system and onto a waiting list again.

angry kitten

forfuxsake wrote: »

so now she is a lady and not a bitch.:D

Not biting. This thread is about trying to skip the hospital waiting lists. If you want to turn it into a racist thing go ahead if your life is so dull.

mattjack

13-03-2012, 12:44 #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logical Fallacy
They don't allow people to skip the queue, the people in the queue allow people to skip the queue.

It's not like any business can afford to pay a member of staff who is solely responsible for ensuring order in the queue.

If you let someone stroll past you in a queue somewhere then it's on you, not the company who goods or services you are queuing for.
I disagree, I've seen shop assistants refuse to allow people to skip the queue and I've recently had an experience where the assistant ignored us when we put our basket on the counter and turned to serve the customer who had just walked into the shop and had gone to the side of the counter to avoid queuing. In my opinion that was queue jumping and bad customer service. I left my basket on the counter and went to Dunnes, I won't be buying from that shop in the future.

You're a bit unlucky.

angry kitten

mattjack wrote: »

13-03-2012, 12:44 #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logical Fallacy
They don't allow people to skip the queue, the people in the queue allow people to skip the queue.

It's not like any business can afford to pay a member of staff who is solely responsible for ensuring order in the queue.

If you let someone stroll past you in a queue somewhere then it's on you, not the company who goods or services you are queuing for.
I disagree, I've seen shop assistants refuse to allow people to skip the queue and I've recently had an experience where the assistant ignored us when we put our basket on the counter and turned to serve the customer who had just walked into the shop and had gone to the side of the counter to avoid queuing. In my opinion that was queue jumping and bad customer service. I left my basket on the counter and went to Dunnes, I won't be buying from that shop in the future.

You're a bit unlucky.

World of difference there pal and she didn't get very far. Only similarity in fact was that the person giving the poor customer service was Polish too:rolleyes:

forfuxsake

angry kitten wrote: »

Not biting. This thread is about trying to skip the hospital waiting lists. If you want to turn it into a racist thing go ahead if your life is so dull.

The real kicker was that she is Polish


I believe that you were not angry at all when this happened. On the contrary I believe you nearly wet yourself with excitement when you discovered she was Polish. You are a small-minded person who sees colour, nationality and god knows what else before you see the person.

_petulia_

angry kitten wrote: »

Nationality came into it in this case as the lady herself made an issue of it when she criticised the Irish system while trying to jump the waiting list. If she hadn't been ranting on and on about the superiority of the Polish system I would have had no idea what her nationality is. I doubt there would be many Irish women who tried to skip the waiting list arguing about the superiority of the Polish health service.

Well obviously I agree there'd be very few Irish women who would do that. But you're being pedantic now.

What I meant was that I wouldn't make the assumption that no Irish woman would try to skip a hospital queue - people of all types exist in all countries - they don't all conform to a certain type of personality based on their nationality.

angry kitten

forfuxsake wrote: »

The real kicker was that she is Polish


I believe that you were not angry at all when this happened. On the contrary I believe you nearly wet yourself with excitement when you discovered she was Polish. You are a small-minded person who sees colour, nationality and god knows what else before you see the person.

I could make the same argument about you. I can give an account of an event using the details of that event. You seem to troll about looking for cheap kicks accusing people of racism. Still it could be worse, next you'll be seeing commies under the bed. Sick sad world.

Teyla Emmagan

angry kitten wrote: »

World of difference there pal and she didn't get very far. Only similarity in fact was that the person giving the poor customer service was Polish too:rolleyes:

My God, you are just filled with hate. What did the good people of Poland ever do to you OP?!?

angry kitten

Nina_G wrote: »

Well obviously I agree there'd be very few Irish women who would do that. But you're being pedantic now.

What I meant was that I wouldn't make the assumption that no Irish woman would try to skip a hospital queue - people of all types exist in all countries - they don't all conform to a certain type of personality based on their nationality.

Of course they don't all conform to a certain type of personality based on nationality, however, this one did.

mattjack

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

My God, you are just filled with hate. What did the good people of Poland ever do to you OP?!?

Dey tuk her que.

up for anything

woodoo wrote: »

I hope someone told her to go back to Poland then. She won't be getting the benefits there that she gets here. Just wants the best of everything... for nothing..

The Land of a Thousand Welcomes says fuck off back to where you came from.

angry kitten wrote: »

It isn't clever or original to misquote another persons post.

Apologies, I thought I was helping out because you'd forgotten the pertinent word.

forfuxsake

angry kitten wrote: »

Of course they don't all conform to a certain type of personality based on nationality, however, this one did.

I rest my case.

mikemac1

This is like all the other threads in AH

We had one recently when the OP had beggars and leeches for neighbours

Too many of you are trying to concentrate on the nationality and forgetting what the thread is even about

angry kitten

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

My God, you are just filled with hate. What did the good people of Poland ever do to you OP?!?

Meh, I hate the act of someone walking in to a consultants waiting room and trying to be seen ahead of not just the patients in the waiting room but also all of the other patients who are on the waiting list waiting to be seen. I don't know what her reasons were and I don't care. Her gp may not even have felt she needed to see a consultant. Anyone pulling that crap needs a boot up the arse.

Teyla Emmagan

mikemac1 wrote: »

Too many of you are trying to concentrate on the nationality and forgetting what the thread is even about

Polish people?!?

woodoo

mikemac1 wrote: »

This is like all the other threads in AH

We had one recently when the OP had beggars and leeches for neighbours

Too many of you are trying to concentrate on the nationality and forgetting what the thread is even about

To many PC hunters about AH looking for a thread to park their arse and be offended. Then roll about like a pig in s**t and revel in sanctimony. Many a good thread ruined by them.

forfuxsake

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Polish people?!?

Cheeky Polish bitches.

up for anything

mikemac1 wrote: »

Too many of you are trying to concentrate on the nationality and forgetting what the thread is even about

Easy enough to do when the OPs of these threads are trying to spread a little discontent and nasty feeling about certain types of peoples rather than individual behaviour. Perhaps if the OP had been about the incident and left out the details which were not important and asking for other people's similar anecdotes it wouldn't have gotten bogged down in nationality!

up for anything

woodoo wrote: »

Consultant psychiatrist i'd guess.

Ooooh, getting at the OP.

angry kitten

up for anything wrote: »

Ooooh, getting at the OP.

It doesn't bother me, in fact it just makes them look like an ignorant twat for not knowing the difference between a psychiatrist and a neurologist.

angry kitten

up for anything wrote: »

Easy enough to do when the OPs of these threads are trying to spread a little discontent and nasty feeling about certain types of peoples rather than individual behaviour. Perhaps if the OP had been about the incident and left out the details which were not important and asking for other people's similar anecdotes it wouldn't have gotten bogged down in nationality!

Oh do grow up for the love of Jesus. Christ forbid anyone should mention any pertinent details. For what its worth I'm not a racist, although I have met many Polish people, just none that I liked. That doesn't make me a racist and it doesn't mean all Polish people are unlikeable

girl2

I have to say regardless of the polish thing going on here, the gypsies are at this carry on a fair bit too. And not just in the hospitals (I'll probably get slated for this one). But it's true.

Singer73

44Leto, you wrote:
It nearly turned me into a communist.[/QUOTE]

I read:
It nearly turned me into a columnist.

I tell ya, I laughed...

saa

I thought I was so special to get my consultant appointment, they even highlighted the full date so I wouldn't mix up the year it was in 2011, the letter was sent out in 2009, so then came the big day and oh boy was I excited but then overwhelmed to find out everyone else had the same appointment time as me and needed a ticket as well,

OP yer one might of came back the day after to ask for an appointment pleading in desperation but seeing as thats not the right way to go about it she is probably not well mentally.

thethingis

Consultants - pricesless video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwN2ZENZsK8

up for anything

angry kitten wrote: »

Oh do grow up for the love of Jesus. Christ forbid anyone should mention any pertinent details. For what its worth I'm not a racist, although I have met many Polish people, just none that I liked. That doesn't make me a racist and it doesn't mean all Polish people are unlikeable

No, it doesn't make you a racist although it makes it sound like you're difficult to please and maybe a tad cold in your attitude. I've met lots of Poles and found pretty much all of them to be pleasant, friendly and likeable, although there was one git but he was out of his head on something and a bit scary.

opinion guy

thethingis wrote: »

Consultants - pricesless video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwN2ZENZsK8

Definition of irony - Bill Tormey criticising consultants for arrogance:rolleyes:

woodoo

angry kitten wrote: »

It doesn't bother me, in fact it just makes them look like an ignorant twat for not knowing the difference between a psychiatrist and a neurologist.

With that post i was implying that the polish women may have had mental Health issues.

billybudd

So a strong minded woman from Poland voiced her opinion while you meekly sat down and waited like a good little girl and you start a thread about it? you slipping in the social welfare remark just makes you mundane and boring.

Dudess

I don't think she voiced an opinion, just barged ahead and demanded to be seen. Arsehole carry-on if true. But all they had to do was tell her to piss off, problem solved.

I think her nationality was mentioned because she was bitching about the health service here in comparison to the one at home in Poland.
Not saying the OP doesn't seem obsessed with immigrants and people in receipt of benefits though.

take everything

The OP's post probably makes slightly more sense if you read it as "polish people" ie the people in the hospital who polish; the cleaners.
And it's easier on the blood pressure.
Try it, it works...

_Whimsical_

angry kitten wrote: »

As if that weren't enough, judging by the row she was having with the nurse, the cheeky bitch had pulled exactly the same stunt the day before and the same nurse had explained the way things work to her the previous day. People with that attitude really piss me off. I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

Has anyone else come across this before.

Was it a psychiatric clinic?

Doesn't sound like rational behaviour to arrive two days in a row to have the same conversation with the same person. She sounds more like a random loon rather than the usual chancer, I wouldn't waste my time being pissed off.

billybudd

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think she voiced an opinion, just barged ahead and demanded to be seen. Arsehole carry-on if true. But all they had to do was tell her to piss off, problem solved.

I think her nationality was mentioned because she was bitching about the health service here in comparison to the one at home in Poland.
Not saying the OP doesn't seem obsessed with immigrants and people in receipt of benefits though.

people should be more demanding in hospitals and demand to be seen, one of the reasons the health care is in such a state of disfunction is the fact the people meekly accept being on lists for years and waiting in offices for hours on end while consultants are paid hundreds of euro per patient that is paid mostly by tax payers wages.

I have no problem with someone who stands up and causes trouble because they dont accept the ****ty standards that alot of people do.

Chuck Stone

Her nationality is inconsequential OP.

Do you think she attempted to jump the queue because she was Polish or because she was acting the bitch?

Polish or Bitch?

Simple question OP.

Motorist

I had to see a consultant 2 weeks ago. I phoned up and got an appointment for 8.30 the following day. Health insurance is expensive but useful.

Crann na Beatha

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Dudess

billybudd wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think she voiced an opinion, just barged ahead and demanded to be seen. Arsehole carry-on if true. But all they had to do was tell her to piss off, problem solved.

I think her nationality was mentioned because she was bitching about the health service here in comparison to the one at home in Poland.
Not saying the OP doesn't seem obsessed with immigrants and people in receipt of benefits though.

people should be more demanding in hospitals and demand to be seen, one of the reasons the health care is in such a state of disfunction is the fact the people meekly accept being on lists for years and waiting in offices for hours on end while consultants are paid hundreds of euro per patient that is paid mostly by tax payers wages.

I have no problem with someone who stands up and causes trouble because they dont accept the ****ty standards that alot of people do.

Is it fair though to demand to be seen before people who were there first?

Killer Wench

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