New York Giants Thread

KrustyUCC

Collins was on point until the last sentence

Yes Apple seems to be a mess alright

I know hindsight is 20/20 but there were flags thrown by some scouts in relation to his maturity

Real Pity that we missed so badly on a top 10 pick

It's looking good for Flowers either unfortunately

when we miss on top picks it makes rebuilding harder

Knex*

Love Collins, but I don't like him airing this out in public. If nothing else, it ruins Apple's trade value.

KrustyUCC

Apple doing a good job of that himself

Suspended for the final game

krustydoyle

So our new GM is Dave Gentleman

wawaman

krustydoyle wrote: »

So our new GM is Dave Gentleman

Not an inspiring choice

KrustyUCC

Not a surprising choice

I hope he is a good one though

He has a big job ahead to pick the coach and rebuild the roster

All begins in the draft

We badly need a home run this year like in 2007

HigginsJ

wawaman wrote: »

Not an inspiring choice

Built a very decent roster in Carolina so inspiring or not its a sensible move.

Shame about Eli Apple, especially when it looked like he could be a very good corner. If we could trade him for a 2nd or 3rd that would be great.

So is Sunday the end of the road for Eli?

Knex*

I'm happy with Gettleman tbh.

krustydoyle

His approach will be interesting that's fit sure.. Fairly direct and to the point over what he wants so let's wait and see

Knex*

Liked Gettleman's press conference. Few things he said that reminded me of Tom Coughlin, tbh. He's definitely a no nonsense type guy anyway.

krustydoyle

Bobby Hart is been cut

VonZan

HigginsJ wrote: »

Built a very decent roster in Carolina so inspiring or not its a sensible move.

Shame about Eli Apple, especially when it looked like he could be a very good corner. If we could trade him for a 2nd or 3rd that would be great.

So is Sunday the end of the road for Eli?

I doubt it. Ideally you draft a QB and sit him behind Eli for 1-2 years while you prepare him for the NFL. I doubt Eli will want to retire after this year and it will be harder to entice a good HC if you’re giving him Geno Smith or a project QB like Webb or a rookie.

Also, you will have a completely new offensive line next year. You don’t want to expose a rookie QB to a situation like that and end up with a David Carr. The best way forward is with Eli and improving the pieces around him. Cut the deadwood and get a QB for the future that you can get ready for 2 years behind Eli.

Reese’s last two first rounders Apple and Flowers both refused to play. Both should be cut. It’s obvious we have a few cancers in the locker room. Gettleman has a lot to do to get the Giants back on track.

krustydoyle

So who do you want as the new head coach?

wawaman

Because let’s face you already miss this season!!!

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helimachoptor

wawaman wrote: »

Because let’s face you already miss this season!!!

New York Giants

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Pretty likely to do the Titans/Giants game

HigginsJ

I see Mark Ross (VP of Player Evaluation) has been let go by Gettleman as well. Glad to see we are really cleaning house. Be very interested to see what we do with our current coaching staff.

You'd assume they will all make way when the new HC comes on board.

We have apparently asked for permission to speak to Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia and Steve Wilks (DC for the Panthers).

Gettleman has said he wants someone with experience and out of that trio the obvious one is McDaniels. His time in Denver doesn't look great and how much of his success is down to Bill & Tom is hard to quantify.

krustydoyle

Jim Schwartz would be an interesting hire for me

HigginsJ

krustydoyle wrote: »

Jim Schwartz would be an interesting hire for me

Terrible record from his time with the Lions, I know he has done well as a DC in Buffalo and Philly but he'd be an odd choice for me.

gstack166

Josh McDaniels is to interview Friday I’ve read apparently would take the Bears job first if offered.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

gstack166 wrote: »

Josh McDaniels is to interview Friday I’ve read apparently would take the Bears job first if offered.

Could see that the Bears job would be a better fit for Mc Daniels after the disaster in Denver. Less expectation with the Bears gig and not the constant pressure that the media in NY pile on.

KrustyUCC

Darnold and Rosen declare for the draft

So we will get a choice of Darnold, Rosen or Barkley if we stick at 2

boccy23

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Darnold and Rosen declare for the draft

So we will get a choice of Darnold, Rosen or Barkley if we stick at 2

Please not Barkley. Too high for any RB. Has to be a QB. I'd rather take an edge rusher or an OL. Premium positions.

I've not followed College FB much this season, but maybe the Chubb kid from NC State if we didn't fancy one of the QBs.

Remember we are paying JPP $15M a season. No RB would get that sort of money.

KrustyUCC

BPA usually for the Giants

I need to watch some tape on Chubb but usually Barkley is mocked to go top 3 after QBs

We will more than likely draft a QB at 2 but Darnolds INT and Fumbles worry me

boccy23

I'll have to Youtube both of them. Todd McShay has Darnold ahead of Rosen. Mel Kiper has it the other way around.

Knex*

With Darnold declared, I can see him being the pick. Traditional build, has all the talent, no off-field issues, and can sit behind Eli for a year or even two.

Rosen - attitude and concussions will raise flags.
Mayfield - measurables and attitude are issues. Could be killed by NY media. Certainly would be intensely scrutinised.
Allen - I don't rate at all
Jackson - I quite like, and improved a lot in the past year. Bowl game didn't help him and he doesn't really look durable. Coming from Eli, Giants may want to look elsewhere. Pick #2 is too high for him, though.

Conor Williams, LT, and Bradley Chubb, DE, are names I'm seeing also. If Browns go with Darnold, you might see Giants take either one of these at #2, or trade back and take them if they're still knocking around.

Eyes Down Field

Bill Belichick and Baker Mayfield to NY next season? I like the sound of that.

KrustyUCC

I'd love to get the hoodie for our coach but that is just a pipe dream

HigginsJ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Bill Belichick and Baker Mayfield to NY next season? I like the sound of that.

That would be great but we will get Pat Shurmur & Case Keenum instead.

If we stay at 2 and don't take a QB, then it has to be Barkley

KrustyUCC

Matt Nagy gets the Chicago job

McDaniels still available if he's the Giants choice

krustydoyle

krustydoyle wrote:

NY Daily News reporting the Pats DC Matt Patricia is the leading contender after the interviews for the Giants job

Dunno how I feel about this to be honest