New York Giants Thread

JoshRosen · 13-02-2018 5:49pm

100% they take a QB! I was meaning is it Rosen or Mayfield they go for though.

cosatron · 13-02-2018 6:00pm

wawaman wrote: »

Mike Shula is the new OC & quarterbacks coach

How’s Eli on the read option:D

wawaman · 02-03-2018 8:55pm

Barkley looks pretty special

The_Honeybadger · 03-03-2018 2:20am

wawaman wrote: »

Barkley looks pretty special

He is remarkable. I wonder will the Browns take him as the first overall pick, they can well afford do given all of the picks and cap space they have.

If they don’t take him then the Giants will have an interesting decision to make.

HigginsJ · 03-03-2018 10:36pm

mickeyk wrote: »

He is remarkable. I wonder will the Browns take him as the first overall pick, they can well afford do given all of the picks and cap space they have.

If they don’t take him then the Giants will have an interesting decision to make.

I don't think it is a decision that should take longer than saying his name. He is, by a distance, the best player in the draft. I've long been a fan of replacing Eli but honestly this kid is too good to pass. I'd still take a QB this year (trade up to bottom of 1st if Jackson or Mayfield were still hanging around) but we simply can't pass on this kid.

wawaman · 03-03-2018 11:12pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

I don't think it is a decision that should take longer than saying his name. He is, by a distance, the best player in the draft. I've long been a fan of replacing Eli but honestly this kid is too good to pass. I'd still take a QB this year (trade up to bottom of 1st if Jackson or Mayfield were still hanging around) but we simply can't pass on this kid.

That has to be on the presumption that the O-Line gets major surgery in free agency. Pointless putting him there behind a line that can’t block. In other news it’s been reported that DRC is been moved to safety. I like that I have to say, he is a ball hawk

The_Honeybadger · 03-03-2018 11:54pm

wawaman wrote: »

That has to be on the presumption that the O-Line gets major surgery in free agency. Pointless putting him there behind a line that can’t block. In other news it’s been reported that DRC is been moved to safety. I like that I have to say, he is a ball hawk

That’s a good point. Maybe trading down for a couple of picks and trying to fix that O Line is the best course of action.

There have been some very good RB’s picked up in the second and third rounds in recent years, but it would be a shame to leave Barkley on the board, he looks to be an outrageous talent.

All reports suggest the Browns will be going QB with the first pick.

gstack166 · 04-03-2018 12:07am

mickeyk wrote: »

That’s a good point. Maybe trading down for a couple of picks and trying to fix that O Line is the best course of action.

There have been some very good RB’s picked up in the second and third rounds in recent years, but it would be a shame to leave Barkley on the board, he looks to be an outrageous talent.

All reports suggest the Browns will be going QB with the first pick.

I’d be very surprised if they didn’t pick barkley #1. Simply because he won’t be there at #4. They still have a 75% of getting the QB they fancy at number 4. There doesn’t seem to be a overriding standout between Rosen Darnold Allen & Mayfield at the combine although they all seem to agree Allen will be last to go off the board out of them.

The_Honeybadger · 04-03-2018 12:19am

gstack166 wrote: »

I’d be very surprised if they didn’t pick barkley #1. Simply because he won’t be there at #4. They still have a 75% of getting the QB they fancy at number 4. There doesn’t seem to be a overriding standout between Rosen Darnold Allen & Mayfield at the combine although they all seem to agree Allen will be last to go off the board out of them.

Browns GM apparently has indicated that they plan to pick up a stop gap QB in free agency for next season but they will still use their 1st pick on a QB.

I agree with you though, Barkley looks a much more sensible option for them overall, and they may well pick him when the time comes.

gstack166 · 04-03-2018 12:30am

mickeyk wrote: »

Browns GM apparently has indicated that they plan to pick up a stop gap QB in free agency for next season but they will still use their 1st pick on a QB.

I agree with you though, Barkley looks a much more sensible option for them overall, and they may well pick him when the time comes.

I expect them to land Foles Keenum or McCarron to be honest. Talks that Kizer will be traded. Colts aren’t taking a QB & Giants won’t either in Barkley is there at #2 I’m predicting. There’s a franchise QB waiting for them at #4 with his RB already waiting for him!

The_Honeybadger · 04-03-2018 12:42am

gstack166 wrote: »

I expect them to land Foles Keenum or McCarron to be honest. Talks that Kizer will be traded. Colts aren’t taking a QB & Giants won’t either in Barkley is there at #2 I’m predicting. There’s a franchise QB waiting for them at #4 with his RB already waiting for him!

Yep, and with all that cap space as well the Browns could put together a good team very quickly. They already have a reasonable OLine and some very good talent there.

So for the Giants it’s Barkley if available, or maybe trade down for several picks. Taking a QB to sit behind Manning is not going to work when there are so many holes in the roster.

Foxtrol · 04-03-2018 12:43am

gstack166 wrote: »

I expect them to land Foles Keenum or McCarron to be honest. Talks that Kizer will be traded. Colts aren’t taking a QB & Giants won’t either in Barkley is there at #2 I’m predicting. There’s a franchise QB waiting for them at #4 with his RB already waiting for him!

That's on the presumption that no one trades with Giants or Colts to get the QB they want. Take last year as an example, the Bears traded up one spot to ensure they got Trubisky when in all likelihood he would have been there for them at 3. Many didn't like the move but there are plenty of teams who are looking for QBs who could easily do similar to get ahead of the Browns. If they feel strongly about a guy they have to pull the trigger this year.

Beefy78 · 04-03-2018 1:08pm

If they believe that any of the QBs there at 2 are 'Franchise' guys then they have to take them. If they believe there's only one QB that good they need to trade up with Cleveland and take him at #1.

If they don't have that high a grade on any QB then they'll take Nelson or Barkley or trade down.

These are all good options for a franchise with as many holes as the Giants have. It's going to be next to impossible to stuff this up.

Ohmeha · 04-03-2018 1:21pm

I'll be shocked if Barkley isn't picked by the Browns at 1, that additional pick at 4 provides then so many positive options and permutations. If they have questions on any of this years QB class they should go free-agency for Keenum, take Barkley at 1 and do whatever they like with that pick at 4.

I definitely agree that if we feel that any of the top 4 QBs of this year's class are the guy for the next 10+ years then no messing about at take him at 2 now. Eli is near the end if not there already and all 4 of the QB's are not completely polished and could do with a year learning and developing behind Eli.

Beefy78 · 04-03-2018 11:55pm

I think the Browns will take their QB at 1. The new regime there are only in that job because the last regime passed on Wentz & Watson. They can't take, say, Rosen at 4 and watch Darnold (or whoever is picked earlier) become an All-Pro regardless of how their guy does or who they get in free agency.

I don't think they'll over-think it and expect them to take their top QB at 1.

wawaman · 07-03-2018 10:47pm

The giants have acquired Alec Ogeltree from the rams in a trade

Knex* · 07-03-2018 11:00pm

Holy ****. I've been impressed with Ogletree since he came into the league. Shocked!

Knex* · 07-03-2018 11:00pm

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/971490534396219392

Will take that

KrustyUCC · 08-03-2018 12:55pm

Good trade hopefully

He does come with a good CAP hit but I'm sick of TE's killing us every year and us have terrible LBs

Hopefully he can up his game as a NYG

Interesting Pro Football Focus has not been impressed by Ogletree’s work since his rookie season. Ogletree had only a 38.9 PFF grade in 2017, ranking him in PFF’s “poor” category.

Good that we protected the 1st 4th rounder so at least we still have picks 2, 34, 66, 102 and 139.

KrustyUCC · 14-03-2018 10:59am

So Norwell goes to the Jags

We signed Jonathan Stewart

https://www.bigblueview.com/2018/3/13/17117326/jonathan-stewart-sign-ny-giants-per-report-news-rumors-free-agency

Hopefully he has something left in the tank but any RB is in trouble if we don't fix the O Line

wawaman · 14-03-2018 4:22pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

So Norwell goes to the Jags

We signed Jonathan Stewart

https://www.bigblueview.com/2018/3/13/17117326/jonathan-stewart-sign-ny-giants-per-report-news-rumors-free-agency

Hopefully he has something left in the tank but any RB is in trouble if we don't fix the O Line

Nate Solder is coming in for big money. That might mean flowers moving to the other side.

KrustyUCC · 14-03-2018 4:25pm

The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. :moneybag::moneybag::moneybag:

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 14, 2018

Jeez that's a lot of money

Hopefully he will be worth it

wawaman · 14-03-2018 4:30pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. :moneybag::moneybag::moneybag:

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 14, 2018

Jeez that's a lot of money

Hopefully he will be worth it

In fairness, a tackle dummy would be an upgrade on Flowers

Knex* · 14-03-2018 4:46pm

Happy with that. Much, much needed.

Knex* · 15-03-2018 4:02pm

Signed a Guard from the Jags that they rate highly. They only let him go with Norwell signing.

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/974089489030221825

Also, OLB Martin from Cardinals. Apparently had a solid year last time around and is improving all the time. Betcher is obviously familiar with him.

https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/974090409445154816

https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/974099645696749569

boccy23 · 15-03-2018 4:16pm

Honey Badger anyone?

Knex* · 15-03-2018 4:25pm

No cap space for it, I imagine.

Edit: Looking at over the cap, we've 8.3m left. Cut Brandon Marshall and that's $1m dead cap but $5m in savings. Not sure what way the rookie reserve is done, though. So may need a lot of that for the draft. Still need a kicker and a punter, too.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-giants/

boccy23 · 15-03-2018 4:27pm

Knex. wrote: »

No cap space for it, I imagine.

Yeah, probably wouldn't work with Collins and now DRC being moved to FS.

KrustyUCC · 15-03-2018 4:29pm

DRC is gone

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Giants-terminate-contract-of-CB-Dominique-Rodgers-Cromartie/17783075-72fe-4c25-a7fc-6f1032684314

Knex* · 15-03-2018 4:32pm

Yeah, DRC left as it freed up 6.5m or something. He only played about 30% of snaps, so even though he was our most consistent player on defense when on the field over the past few years (in my eyes anyway), it seems he's near the end of his time in the league. Injuries certainly took away his playing time.

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