Cork City FC

gimmick

gimmick wrote: »

Nah, fúck that. City beat Shams later. SPA beat Dundalk.

We beat SPA then on Friday and the season is back on track.

Ahem

CHealy

CHealy wrote: »

What made it so bad for me is the fact we were playing so so well after the Europa League exit. We battered Bohs off the pitch and got a couple of fantastic away wins at Longford and Sligo. They stand for nothing if you can't win at home against the bottom placed team.

We now have an injury crisis on our hands at the most important stage of the season, and unfortunetly at about 10pm on Friday night, I can see our season being over after losing tonight to Rovers and Friday to Pats in the cup.

I'm a glass half empty man as you can tell.

Ahem ahem..........


Another disgusting performence again tonight. I've had enough of Caulfield now at this stage.

applehunter

Poor stuff from City.

Back to the drawing board because this is a doomed project.

ShamoBuc

Awful stuff. Just awful.

Roar

If we don't beat Pats on Friday the rest of the season is going to be pretty grim.

Hopefully Caulfield will start blooding some of the younger members of his squad ahead of next season for the rest of our league games - let them get league experience before the new campaign.

He also needs to get rid of half a dozen players.

I don't think there's any need to change the manager, to do so would be lunacy.

corks finest

Roar wrote: »

If we don't beat Pats on Friday the rest of the season is going to be pretty grim.

Hopefully Caulfield will start blooding some of the younger members of his squad ahead of next season for the rest of our league games - let them get league experience before the new campaign.

He also needs to get rid of half a dozen players.

I don't think there's any need to change the manager, to do so would be lunacy.

Totally agree with u ref Johnny c,not his fault, just like Brian Cuthbert, his player's let him down,other than johnnc,who have you?,Dave hill

CHealy

corks finest wrote: »

Totally agree with u ref Johnny c,not his fault, just like Brian Cuthbert, his player's let him down,other than johnnc,who have you?,Dave hill

Roar wrote: »

If we don't beat Pats on Friday the rest of the season is going to be pretty grim.

Hopefully Caulfield will start blooding some of the younger members of his squad ahead of next season for the rest of our league games - let them get league experience before the new campaign.

He also needs to get rid of half a dozen players.

I don't think there's any need to change the manager, to do so would be lunacy.

I think thats crazy to say its not JC's fault, I see it being totally his fault. Over the last two years I've seen bogball football, a manager that hasn't a clue what to do against the bigger teams, players being coached out of the way they play, its actually going backwards since last season. He's a MSL manager at best.

corks finest

CHealy wrote: »

I think thats crazy to say its not JC's fault, I see it being totally his fault. Over the last two years I've seen bogball football, a manager that hasn't a clue what to do against the bigger teams, players being coached out of the way they play, its actually going backwards since last season. He's a MSL manager at best.

Yes,sometimes, its been negative play,but think that's a survival tactic, must admit, several player's haven't been 100% trying last few games,,I'd personally back John c,all the way,saw/heard his frustration at the Limerick match, can't always blame the captain,when the ships going down

CHealy

We'll never go further than where we are right now under Caulfield, it really is as simple as that. I copped onto that about halfway through last season even though we were still in the hunt for the league, fellas I watch the games with thought I was a lunatic, now they all agree 100%.

Im not trying to blow my own trumpet there either btw, its just so clear that he hasn't a clue.

corks finest

CHealy wrote: »

We'll never go further than where we are right now under Caulfield, it really is as simple as that. I copped onto that about halfway through last season even though we were still in the hunt for the league, fellas I watch the games with thought I was a lunatic, now they all agree 100%.

Im not trying to blow my own trumpet there either btw, its just so clear that he hasn't a clue.

I've also been heartbroken watching a sometimes fantastic team turn to tripe,seemingly overnight, and have been watching Cork soccer teams play last 45 yrs,sometimes they get it right sometimes no,look at Liverpool and Brendan Rodgers,, Dave hill,in my mind was another good man at the helm,,,,who would you suggest as a replacement? Bit of a poisoned Chalice at this point,,,, think Johnny c should be given a bit of breathing space

CHealy

Thing is is that we are not a fantastic team turned into tripe, the way Caulfield sets them up see's up take one step forward and two steps back. If JC is given breathing space we could easily find ourselves in a Tommy Dunne situation where we were struggling to get 2 thousand through the gates and the club almost went bankrupt again, but sure people were saying to give Dunne breathing space aswell.

I'd get someone like Damian Richardson or if he was to leave Pats I'd love to see Liam Buckley have a crack off this team. This thing about having a Cork man in charge to spur on local pride is nonsense, the Cork public will come out to support a winning team, simple as. Lets see what type of crowd we get next Friday for the Pats cup game, I think we'll be struggling to hit 2500.

corks finest

CHealy wrote: »

Thing is is that we are not a fantastic team turned into tripe, the way Caulfield sets them up see's up take one step forward and two steps back. If JC is given breathing space we could easily find ourselves in a Tommy Dunne situation where we were struggling to get 2 thousand through the gates and the club almost went bankrupt again, but sure people were saying to give Dunne breathing space aswell.

I'd get someone like Damian Richardson or if he was to leave Pats I'd love to see Liam Buckley have a crack off this team. This thing about having a Cork man in charge to spur on local pride is nonsense, the Cork public will come out to support a winning team, simple as. Lets see what type of crowd we get next Friday for the Pats cup game, I think we'll be struggling to hit 2500.

Beg to differ, agree to disagree, and bang on ref we don't necessarily need a local to manage, think you're slightly exaggerated to suggest we'd be in a Tommy Dunne scenario,,,,,,, fingers crossed ,and if Damian Richardson didn't do well,would you be looking for his head also?

hman231

Listen John has done well what I say is that if he wins no trophy this year or next then johns position should be questioned but listen he has done well so far and Friday is now a massive opportunity if we get our defensive solidity back we have a great chance of getting to the quarters. Just hope we put in a big performance tomorrow as the cup has not been out friend in recent seasons.

Worztron

Hi guys. I've started an Ultimate Cork City FC Team thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=96691973

Please post the exact player position also. Cheers.

I will update post #1 (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96691973&postcount=1) as things change.

Pos087

Worztron wrote: »

Hi guys. I've started an Ultimate Cork City FC Team thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=96691973

Please post the exact player position also. Cheers.

I will update post #1 (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96691973&postcount=1) as things change.

I tried to post on your tread but it said I did not have permission. Surely the 2 best forwards are shane long and Kevin Doyle not so much for what they done at city but the careers they have had.

gimmick

Pos087 wrote: »

I tried to post on your tread but it said I did not have permission. Surely the 2 best forwards are shane long and Kevin Doyle not so much for what they done at city but the careers they have had.

Using that logic Trevor Brooking should be included as well.

My opinion 4-4-2

Mick Devine
Neal Horgan....Alan Bennett....Dan Murray....Deccie Daly
George O Callaghan....Joe Gamble....Patsy Freyne....Ollie Cahill
John O Flynn....Pat Morley

Subs - Phil Harrington...Danny Murphy...Colin O Brien....Stephen Napier....Roy O Donovan....John Caulfield....Dave Barry

Lemmy Scott

1 devine

2 fergus o donoughe 3 philip long
4 declan daly

5 alan bennett


6 terry macdermott 7 dave barry 8 patsy freyne 10 trevor brooking


11 kevin doyle 9 pat morley

subs 12 myself
13 shane long
14 gerry macabe
15 ollie cahill
theres a few out of position but they were versatile in their day

Worztron

Pos087 wrote: »

I tried to post on your tread but it said I did not have permission. Surely the 2 best forwards are shane long and Kevin Doyle not so much for what they done at city but the careers they have had.

Hi Pos087.

I recall there's some procedure to be allowed to post in the soccer forums, sorry I forgot about that.

Worztron

gimmick wrote: »

Using that logic Trevor Brooking should be included as well.

My opinion 4-4-2

Mick Devine
Neal Horgan....Alan Bennett....Dan Murray....Deccie Daly
George O Callaghan....Joe Gamble....Patsy Freyne....Ollie Cahill
John O Flynn....Pat Morley

Subs - Phil Harrington...Danny Murphy...Colin O Brien....Stephen Napier....Roy O Donovan....John Caulfield....Dave Barry

Hi gimmick.

Was Declan Daly a left back?

Edit: He played at rb or cb.

gimmick

Sure Hitgan played lots at left full. So it's all the one.

Anyway. Tonight's result. Bloody hell.

Now to avoid Dundalk and any other draw is fine by me.

ShamoBuc

First half , forgettable.
Second half, oh yes!!!!

Roar

We needed that.

Also, my city XI - don't think that team would work in a 4-3-3 but meh.

Devine

Horgan Murray Daly Murphy

George Patsy Gamble

Caulfield Flynny Morley

Subs: Biscuits, Benno, Hill, Cahill, Barry, O'Donovan, Marky Sull

Manager - Rico

Worztron

Thanks for the info guys.

Team now complete.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96691973&postcount=1

ShamoBuc

Away to Derry in the cup qf

hufpc8w3adnk65

What's the latest on the two dennehys?

hman231

Both Dennehys are playing for Cork City Billy even played friday. yeah derry away is not a great tie only thing i can say is that still very winnable and happy to not get dundalk. Galway home league Friday and Dundalk have Bohs away so hope we can close the gap. Tommy though will be itching to get a result at the cross but i think with the limerick upset we will be a lot more wary of the galway threat and win the game well

Worztron

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Away to Derry in the cup qf

In recent years, CCFC tend to do well at the Brandywell Stadium.

gimmick

Derry are very poor. I'd expect us to progress handy enough.

CHealy

Agree with that, we've nothing to fear up there, I'd be expecting us to at the very least bring them back to Cork for a replay, but we really should beat them.

hman231

Galway friday and dundalk have bohs away could close down the gap

gimmick

The gap is too big. At best it will be down to 7. Dundalk won't drop 8 points more than us for the remainder.

Worztron

gimmick wrote: »

The gap is too big. At best it will be down to 7. Dundalk won't drop 8 points more than us for the remainder.

Agreed. City should concentrate more on winning cups now.

Pos087

Worztron wrote: »

Agreed. City should concentrate more on winning cups now.

I agree. I Just hope resent results don't have an impact on attendance.

CHealy

Pos087 wrote: »

I agree. I Just hope resent results don't have an impact on attendance.

They obviously will but thats just the sporting publin in Cork in general. Be lucky to get 2500 for Galway tomorrow night.

gimmick

Galway at home tonight. Like the Limerick game it is one we should be winning very easily. But we all know what happened there :rolleyes:

Munster are also at home at 7pm, so parking tonight should be fun.

hufpc8w3adnk65

gimmick wrote: »

Galway at home tonight. Like the Limerick game it is one we should be winning very easily. But we all know what happened there :rolleyes:

Munster are also at home at 7pm, so parking tonight should be fun.

I know they bought houses near too stadiums but having both teams at home really is crazy, I'm residents, publicans etc would much prefer them different nights and have a better spread of people

ShamoBuc

We win, Pats lose , Dundalk get an equaliser in 94th min, happy enough with that.

Worztron

ShamoBuc wrote: »

We win, Pats lose , Dundalk get an equaliser in 94th min, happy enough with that.

Pity Dundalk got an equaliser. Realistically Shamrock Rovers are the only team that can take 2nd place from Cork City now. Derry did us a favor in beating Pats.

The_Kew_Tour

European football looking good at least.

hman231

Monday will be huge CCFC Pats. And Rovers Dundalk. All we can do is get the three points

Blackie Grey

2nd be good -dundalk are just to good as shown by their results in europe.
crowd was 2500 thats down to johnnys appalling style of play.

hes taking us as far as he can even though hes done a great job.

i look at micky adams getting the sligo job and wonder could city have got an ex premiership manager like him-you need a guy that has managed at a higher level to get the club to the next level -thats what dundalk done with kenny having been scottish premiership getting them to cup final in all.

if theres not a new manager in it shows foras are happy with not being at the next level -the dundalk level.biggest fan base in the league is there.will foras take a gamble-no way!

Paz-CCFC

Thought we played some lovely stuff last night. Some great balls forward for the wingers to latch onto. Clearly upped the tempo after Billy came on for Miller. Was a very good ball over his head for him to run onto and he did very well to control it and bury it. 1-0 really flattered Galway - with the chances we had, it's a wonder we didn't get four or five.

What is it that we need to get to the next level, though? Is it down to the manager or is it a money thing? No manager in the world could get the likes of Towell to join us at the moment, because we simply don't have the money to offer him that Dundalk do.

It is improving, though, a lot of which is down to European money, I'd imagine. During the week, Sheppard signed a two year extension. So, he's effectively on a 2.5 year contract at the moment. I think this is the longest contract we've given a player since around 2008. That shows we have some financial security and it's huge to be able to tie down our better players to such long deals so early. We have a number of players contracted until the end of 2016, as well. That's vital for the long term planning of the squad, when you have most of your best players tied down in August. It allows us to concentrate more on new signings/youth players, rather than the situation of having 90% of the team out of contract and spending the winter just trying to hold onto what you have. If we can keep getting into the Europa League at a minimum and play in a round or two, that'll bring big prize money and allow us to keep challenging consistently and up our game bit by bit.

A little over a year ago, Sligo felt that Baraclough couldn't take them to the next level, so they sacked him. They've been in freefall since, going from a team challenging for the title and cups to relegation dogfighters. Be careful what you wish for.

Blackie Grey

With crowds of 6000 if you are doing well city have way more resources than dundalk -that contract for shepperd is the longest in the league -i would reckon if city went for towell they could get him his contract with dundalks up soon id say.

Worztron

Blackie Grey wrote: »

With crowds of 6000 if you are doing well city have way more resources than dundalk -that contract for shepperd is the longest in the league -i would reckon if city went for towell they could get him his contract with dundalks up soon id say.

Towell would be a superb signing alright.

Paz-CCFC

If we were getting that regularly I might agree, but we've had two 6,000+ attendances in the last two seasons. Our average attendance is about 3,500. That's not a huge amount more than what Dundalk get. They also seem to have a consortium putting in money and they don't have the six figure expenditure that we have to pay for Bishopstown and the Cross every year. They were able to outbid Shamrock Rovers for Towell, so it shows the kind of money that's going around up there. I'd say he comfortably earns more than anyone in our squad.

Still doesn't mean that we can't get good players, though. Billy, Sheppard, Beattie, Kavanagh etc. are all very good players that are good enough to play in any team in the country. We have the spine of a very good team and we're not a million miles away from where we want to be. Consistent European qualification will give us the resources to go that little bit further and we'll also have training facilities that will be the envy of the league. We may not win the league this year, but in the long term, I'm very optimistic about our prospects.

ShamoBuc

3 more points, a draw or away win tomorrow please!

hman231

Rovers will be going all out for sure. lets hope

Pos087

Dundalk 2 up I think it's time to call it a day.

CHealy

Ya I think thats that now, really needed Rovers to win that.

The most annoying thing is that Dundalk were'nt even that good tonight, if Shamrock had any balls they would have got something out of it.

Anyway, as you said time to call it a day, make sure we get that Europa League spot and try win the cup. Recoup and go again next year. We are close, it will happen in the next few years and when it does its going to be fantastic.

Paz-CCFC

Pity, but at least it gives us a bit of a cushion in second. Dundalk can afford to lose in Tallaght and the Cross and probably draw elsewhere and still win it. We could realistically put it to the last day, if those two losses happen and we win all our matches. With Dundalk at home to Bray at the end, they'd still win it comfortably, but it'd be nice to at least have a bit of final day excitement again.

In fairness to City, we're on course to match our points total from last year (72), which would win the league most years (eight from the previous ten, I believe, adjusting for a 33 game season). Dundalk have just been that bit better, but a points total in the 70s won't always be runners-up.

Disappointing, but sure, still Europe and the cup to play for. If we finish in second and followed it up with a win in Lansdowne, it wouldn't be too bad.