Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

amiable

Kerrigooney wrote: »

If he goes in to the meeting with the FSG lads with the same attitude he has with the press he`s not gonna last long,is he?

Because he's going to talk to his boss the same way he talks to Andy Burton?

murpho999

Kerrigooney wrote: »

If he goes in to the meeting with the FSG lads with the same attitude he has with the press he`s not gonna last long,is he?

Also I don't think Henry & Co will be asking stupid inane questions like Geoff Shreeves.

Did you hear him yesterday with Mancini?

So Roberto how does it feel?

Did you think it was possible with 90 mins gone?

Really unimaginative stuff.

Anyhow, I thought there was supposed to be a press conference today?

LuckyLloyd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

If he goes in to the meeting with the FSG lads with the same attitude he has with the press he`s not gonna last long,is he?

He doesn't suffer fools gladly. It isn't that he is a dislikeable or stupid man. I'd imagine he respects John Henry and is polite and attentive in his dealings with him.

Basically the media and fans of other clubs can go **** themselves. That's where I am on Kenny's media handling and that's where I'll stay. Modern football journalism really is ****ing irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't read any sports section any more and the only punditry team I spend much time watching are the RTE boys for the craic. Zonalmarking.net, football forums and watching the ****ing games with my own two eyes is enough for me. The clubs release official announcements for everything eventually.

I'd be happiest if the club stopped doing all interviews / engagements with media and just communicated to the world through our own website and TV channel.

Mr.Crinklewood

This might interest some of you, surprised it has not been posted already.

Sir Gallagher

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He doesn't suffer fools gladly. It isn't that he is a dislikeable or stupid man. I'd imagine he respects John Henry and is polite and attentive in his dealings with him.

Basically the media and fans of other clubs can go **** themselves. That's where I am on Kenny's media handling and that's where I'll stay. Modern football journalism really is ****ing irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't read any sports section any more and the only punditry team I spend much time watching are the RTE boys for the craic. Zonalmarking.net, football forums and watching the ****ing games with my own two eyes is enough for me. The clubs release official announcements for everything eventually.

I'd be happiest if the club stopped doing all interviews / engagements with media and just communicated to the world through our own website and TV channel.

Haha that's some 4th Reich stuff right there.

daithijjj

Hazard has said he will play in Manchester next season, can only presume its for City. We should definitely send a probe out to flush out the availability of Johnson.

El Inho

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

This might interest some of you, surprised it has not been posted already.

stream????

amiable

daithijjj wrote: »

Hazard has said he will play in Manchester next season, can only presume its for City. We should definitely send a probe out to flush out the availability of Johnson.

I don't seem to rate Adam Johnson as highly as most people

amiable

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

This might interest some of you, surprised it has not been posted already.

Shane Tracy used to be at Arsenal

Jayob10

Limerick 1 Liverpool Reserves 0

Turtyturd

amiable wrote: »

Shane Tracy used to be at Arsenal

So did Dave O'Leary.;)

amiable

Turtyturd wrote: »

So did Dave O'Leary.;)

Was waiting to see if anyone would spot that

5starpool

Has that Texiera lad played for the reserves yet? I haven't been following them much since Christmas unfortunately apart from the NextGen.

kingshankly

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He doesn't suffer fools gladly. It isn't that he is a dislikeable or stupid man. I'd imagine he respects John Henry and is polite and attentive in his dealings with him.

Basically the media and fans of other clubs can go **** themselves. That's where I am on Kenny's media handling and that's where I'll stay. Modern football journalism really is ****ing irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't read any sports section any more and the only punditry team I spend much time watching are the RTE boys for the craic. Zonalmarking.net, football forums and watching the ****ing games with my own two eyes is enough for me. The clubs release official announcements for everything eventually.

I'd be happiest if the club stopped doing all interviews / engagements with media and just communicated to the world through our own website and TV channel.

You can't expect to take 10s of millions of sky each year and then not provide them with interviews.
The paid 1.7 billion for 3 years I'd be expecting blood from managers

Sir Gallagher

It's all well and good saying fck the media and other fans and all but that doesn't really wash with me. This was supposed to be the season where we brought back a bit of self-respect back to the club on and off the pitch after the H&G era but unfortunately it was just more of the same.

Hannibal

amiable wrote: »

I don't seem to rate Adam Johnson as highly as most people

me neither, he's a good impact player but how much better than Downing is he? and would anyone have rated him higher than Downing when we bought Downing

5starpool

Dotsey wrote: »

me neither, he's a good impact player but how much better than Downing is he? and would anyone have rated him higher than Downing when we bought Downing

Without a doubt. Considering I never rated Downing anyhow, that's not saying much, but Adam Johnson can actually beat a man with a trick and put in a cross.

MD1990

daithijjj wrote: »

Hazard has said he will play in Manchester next season, can only presume its for City. We should definitely send a probe out to flush out the availability of Johnson.

more overated English players
no thanks

Finical

I would have much preferred Adam Johnson at the time we bought Downing, but this season of the little glimpses and cameo's he has had. I don't think he'd improve us one bit. He seems weak mentally hence not getting much game time with City as well. Doesn't track back much, but admittedly has talent.

All the eyes would be on him to for us deliver and I couldn't see him handling that pressure at all. It's not likely we'll sign him any ways though is it?

We haven't signed a proper winger in God knows how long? Kewell had potential, but failed so much.

All that being said I'd take risk if we could get him for about 10 mill, but no chance that's happening.

bluefinger

one all draw in the match in Limerick.

Leiva

@thisisanfield: RT: @OliPriceBates: Liverpool and Tottenham are set to go head to head for Luuk de Jong who will cost them around £12.5m #thfc #lfc

Emmm

koppy

Mr Alan wrote: »

God I don't know if my blood pressure could take Rafa being back at the club.

If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.

If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.

MD1990

koppy wrote: »

retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.

i agree
his football is horrible to watch too

NukaCola

koppy wrote: »

retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.

MD1990 wrote: »

i agree
his football is horrible to watch too

We were spoiled under Rafa......some people have very short memories

Knex*

Have we signed Lavezzi, Cavani, Hamsik and Sneidjer yet? Season is over a day already for God's sake.

darced

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eagle eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkchDf3doW8

missingtime

darced wrote: »

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At least we were scoring goals instead of hitting the post every game.

I dunno how people found his football boring, we were scoring goals for fun.

Knex*

darced wrote: »

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I know I used to hate the days when we played Champions League football. Dreadful, boring competition.

At least under Rafa we had a direction and a purpose on the pitch and each player knew his role.

Take the FA Cup final for example and tell me we either;

A. Played good exciting football
B. Looked like we even had a ****ing clue what we were doing until Carroll came on.

It just didn't happen.

We often played great football under Rafa and the myth around him being boring is just that. A myth.

Jesus Wept

We scored just over half the amount of goals City did, go us. Difference of 57 goals in our goal difference.

darced

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Kerrigooney

amiable wrote: »

Because he's going to talk to his boss the same way he talks to Andy Burton?

Oh dear...what I posted didn`t come across as I meant it to.

I was trying to be funny but it seems I`m about as funny as Adam Sandler:(

However his increasing paranoia and tetchiness (is that a word?) is getting very bloody annoying.

It`s not just the moronic questions that brings this out in him either,as someone else said...it`s every question these days.

I`m old enough to remember him as a player so I love the guy but I think it`s becoming obvious he can`t handle it any more. It`s time to step aside while he still has a bit of his dignity intact.

Super-Rush

God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

Awful stuff Ted.

daithijjj

Super-Rush wrote: »

God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

Awful stuff Ted.

That period of football was in spite of Rafa, not because of him, we went into complete collapse under his 'default settings' during the winter months prior to that. We reverted to type not long after.

I dont like his style, he is too rigid, in his team and his personality. He bought and sold or fell out with almost every creative player he brought to the club. That's fine, he is entitled to do whatever he likes while manager, doesnt mean i like watching it.

The game we lost at home to Arsenal this year was some of the best we have played in a very long time. Im perfectly content with Kenny for next season, i expect him to make changes.

monkey9

Super-Rush wrote: »

God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

Awful stuff Ted.

Yeah, and we only scored one in the Bernabeau when we beat Madrid and only two in the Nou Camp when we beat Barca!! Shocking stuff alright. Embarrassing nights.

Glico Man

And the time we beat Inter in the San Siro, and at Anfield. Disgraceful performances

EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff

amiable

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Oh dear...what I posted didn`t come across as I meant it to.

I was trying to be funny but it seems I`m about as funny as Adam Sandler:(

However his increasing paranoia and tetchiness (is that a word?) is getting very bloody annoying.

It`s not just the moronic questions that brings this out in him either,as someone else said...it`s every question these days.

I`m old enough to remember him as a player so I love the guy but I think it`s becoming obvious he can`t handle it any more. It`s time to step aside while he still has a bit of his dignity intact.

Don't worry, I'v e picked a few people up wrong on here over the last few days so sorry about that.

With some of these reporters it's not just the silly questions they ask Kenny though. There's a bit of background with some of these incidents.

Mr Alan

aaronh007 wrote: »

EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff

We won. 0-1. Torres with the goal. Won me a fair few quid.

Or when we beat Barca in the Camp Nou. Not a bad night that.

monkey9

ush wrote: »

FA cup semi-final was in April. The wheels came off in March, at the latest.

Have you forgotten Bolton away? That was in January. Sandwiched between cup ties, in the middle of the Suarez mess, the team didn't turn up for a league match. League aspirations were melting.

Was it "Andy Carroll" who said on here that Kenny's brief was to get top 4. He ignored his brief and concentrated on cups.

Now Kenny losing the faith of the squad is a more reasonable explanation than the squad only being good enough for 8th. I think the quality is there, especially when Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are wobbling.

If you don't accept him losing the squad or think the squad isn't good enough, what are you left with by way of explanation? A team that was allowed to consistently put in woeful performances and didn't beat the teams they should have. That is a far more damning verdict on Kenny.

The wheels came off in March?? I don't exactly remember us blowing away the likes of Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea etc in the first part of the season!!

Kerrigooney

amiable wrote: »

Don't worry, I'v e picked a few people up wrong on here over the last few days so sorry about that.

With some of these reporters it's not just the silly questions they ask Kenny though. There's a bit of background with some of these incidents.

No worries.

Yeah,that would make sense because all of the managers get asked the same ridiculous questions but they don`t all react like KD so there must be something there.

monkey9

aaronh007 wrote: »

And the time we beat Inter in the San Siro, and at Anfield. Disgraceful performances

EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff

We beat Inter home and away that season. That was an embarrassing Champions League campaign though. I think we only reached the Semi finals that year!

Mr Alan

monkey9 wrote: »

The wheels came off in March?? I don't exactly remember us blowing away the likes of Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea etc in the first part of the season!!

You expect us to beat everyone?! :eek:

Until the Arsenal game we were still in for a CL place. Arguably the QPR game even.

PFL

campo wrote: »

Cant see them flying Kenny all the way to Boston to sack him sure they have more respect for the man then that, If they were to sack him I am sure Werner would fly into Liverpool to meet him just like he did for Comolli

Comolli was in the states the week before Werner and Henry came to Merseyside to part company with him, more then likely doing what Kenny & Clarke are doing, giving their end of season report.

I don't think they'll part company with kenny though, more problems structurally wrong with the club then the manager;

No CL
No Stadium Resolution
No Director of football
No Director of communications
No Commercial Director
No Head of Science & Fitness
A weak MD in Ian Ayre (his strengths are commercial & sponsorship)

It's a great shame Rafa can't be persuaded to take a DOF role, strategically thinking about a vision for the club, scouting, planning for the future through the academy. I know he's relatively young and has aspirations to manage again though.

It is a make or break summer for lfc, a lot of things need to be to right and I'm not just talking about transfers and the manager.

Mr Alan

Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.

PFL

Mr Alan wrote: »

Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.

Simon Clancy on twitter had it as well;

“@SiClancy: Liverpool "branching out" with plans to sign Rasmus Elm and Younès Belhanda.”

Belhanda won young player of the year tonight, don't know much about Elm. If true we're hardly signing players and sacking kenny?

Hannibal

PFL wrote: »

Comolli was in the states the week before Werner and Henry came to Merseyside to part company with him, more then likely doing what Kenny & Clarke are doing, giving their end of season report.

I don't think they'll part company with kenny though, more problems structurally wrong with the club then the manager;

No CL
No Stadium Resolution
No Director of football
No Director of communications
No Commercial Director
No Head of Science & Fitness
A weak MD in Ian Ayre (his strengths are commercial & sponsorship)

It's a great shame Rafa can't be persuaded to take a DOF role, strategically thinking about a vision for the club, scouting, planning for the future through the academy. I know he's relatively young and has aspirations to manage again though.

It is a make or break summer for lfc, a lot of things need to be to right and I'm not just talking about transfers and the manager.

Rafa is also an excellent tactician on the football field so I think he would be wasted in a role like that, while he was our manager he had a vision for the club which is why Segura and Borrell are at The Academy now

Mr Alan

PFL wrote: »

Simon Clancy on twitter had it as well

He got it from Tony Barrett. Said so in his next tweet.

PFL wrote:

Belhanda won young player of the year tonight, don't know much about Elm. If true we're hardly signing players and sacking kenny?

I think it's always been unlikely Kenny would be getting the bullet.

Jesus Wept

Mr Alan wrote: »

Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.

Can't say the video of him posted really captured my imagination. Perhaps he is good but the video didn't show a lot to me.

daithijjj

Turns out we did bid for Jones last year (according to this)

PhiloCypher

If Kenny goes I'd have no qualms with Rafa coming back assuming there are no other outstanding candidates available IE. pep, mourinho, Klop etc but what are the odds that FSG are gonna turn back the clock like that again and choose another former manager when that very tactic had backfired for them with Kenny. Just can't see it happening.