The Circus (elephant in Cork)

pandaboy

After seeing the video of the elephant in Blackpool yesterday it got me thinking on whether circuses should be operating anymore. The animal looked clearly distressed and if they had any sense they wouldn't have paraded the elephants through Blackpool Shopping area, it's a busy old place and of course would affect the animals.

I don' understand how these things operate anymore. There's obvious abuses in circuses (not all) but it's apparent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goU9sgem6jg

chin_grin

'cos it's a bleedin' circus......innit?

pandaboy

chin_grin wrote: »

'cos it's a bleedin' circus......innit?

But like that's the thing. Is there a need for the circus anymore? The popularity back in the day was down to people never having the chance to see the animals in their lives. Nowadays though with the advent of internet and travel, does a person really need to go to the circus? The appeal has died down a lot because people are aware that animals are being abused (in some circuses) and understand the fact that it's pretty ****ty on the animals to be paraded around the place like tinfoil on a communion dress back in the '40s.

TanG411

Stop being caring and watch the damn clowns.

Nothingbetter2d

aww i was hoping to see the elephant destroy stuff.... what a let down!!!

chin_grin

pandaboy wrote: »

But like that's the thing. Is there a need for the circus anymore? The popularity back in the day was down to people never having the chance to see the animals in their lives. Nowadays though with the advent of internet and travel, does a person really need to go to the circus? The appeal has died down a lot because people are aware that animals are being abused (in some circuses) and understand the fact that it's pretty ****ty on the animals to be paraded around the place like tinfoil on a communion dress back in the '40s.

In a word: no.

In an elaborated reason for the word: reality tv.

In an explanation for reality tv: idiots watching it.

Well not really, just thought I'd get a cheap dig in at reality tv. G'wan!

Ghandee

How do you kill a circus?

Go straight for the juggler!

pandaboy

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

aww i was hoping to see the elephant destroy stuff.... what a let down!!!

I was expecting the same but it was fairly small to be honest. Heart jumped into my throat when I saw it run for the main road.

Immaculate Pasta

I didn't know a panda could operate the internet :eek:

joseph brand

Ghandee wrote: »

How do you kill a circus?

Go straight for the juggler!

But the rot goes all the way to the Big Top!

SEPT 23 1989

Looks like he had a few on him:D

ollie1

Wtf is a Elephant doing in a car park in the first place?

paddyandy

Poor 'Fellah' just wanted a run when he saw a chance at freedom ..What a life ...

Mr Benevolent

Circuses are way out of modern times. Only even been to Cirque de Soleil, if that even counts as a circus. Never want to go to a crappy Foster's joke.

pandaboy

They are indeed. I saw the parade type thing they had in Waterford and it was horrible to look at. There's obviously an appeal if these things are still in operation but I just don't get it.

The only thing I have against Cirque du Soleil is the price, robbing fecks.

Pandas have lots of talents.

Nothingbetter2d

ollie1 wrote: »

Wtf is a Elephant doing in a car park in the first place?

it's the latest hybrid from ford does 50miles per haybale

oil is just way too expensive now... back to horse n cart for most but those that liked suv's now go for elephants

booboo88

http://www.thejournal.ie/video-nellie-the-elephant-makes-a-run-for-it-in-cork-398870-Mar2012/


circus near by, but still very very dangerous

funk-you

Ah, that's where I parked my elephant...

-Funk

mawk

brave handler getting between them

chin_grin

Also here.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056589411

Riamfada

Assasin Elephant: An elephant never forgets ...



... to kill

Jen Pigs Fly

They're using bullhooks on him to try to control him

That's cruel, I do hope this circus burns to the ground with all the cruel people inside and all the poor animals on their way to a rescue facility.

drunkmonkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti21PVHXrg

ooooooooooooooooo...
Nellie the elephant pack her trunk and
said goodbye to the circus
of she road with a trumety trump
trump trump trump

MarkR

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

They're using bullhooks on him to try to control him

That's cruel, I do hope this circus burns to the ground with all the cruel people inside and all the poor animals on their way to a rescue facility.

Actually, this elephant was a well known eater of babies. Total dick. Pisses all over the toilet seat too. You can imagine the mess.

Jen Pigs Fly

MarkR wrote: »

Actually, this elephant was a well known eater of babies. Total dick. Pisses all over the toilet seat too. You can imagine the mess.

Don't care, the people made him that way.

D-Generate

Oh Stampy, the hilarious hijinks you get involved in!

KeithAFC

Trying to get out of Cork. Good luck.

doxy

I was actually there yesterday when the poor thing was trying to flee, he looked really scared and unhappy. It's shocking that they still allow circuses to keep animals in this day and age.

Phill Ewinn

Another two years of recession and he'll be elephant stew and we'll all be gald to ate it.

Popeleo

Riamfada wrote: »

Assasin Elephant: An elephant never forgets ...



... to kill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_by_elephant

philstar

its on liveline now

PostHack

I assume this is the usual circus publicity stunt?? Animal "escapes" from the visting circus and ends up in the news.... Happens suspiciously often.... Disgraceful, prosecutions should follow.

minotour

Cloverfield done cork style.

44leto

I always like seeing an Elephant break from a circus, but pity it has to here. I thought circus animal acts were illegal, if not it should be.

Andy!!

Great comment on youtube.

"Give her some pyjamas and she'd fit in well with the rest of the elephants that hang around up there!"

Benny_Cake

Disgusting that a circus is allowed to keep elephants or other large animals, maybe this will draw some attention to the issue.

booboo88

Andy!! wrote: »

Great comment on youtube.

"Give her some pyjamas and she'd fit in well with the rest of the elephants that hang around up there!"

Thats out of order

ColeTrain

booboo88 wrote: »

Thats out of order

Spot on, it's not fair to compare a innocent animal to all the fat yokes in pj's.

vibe666

philstar wrote: »

its on liveline now

do they have a translator who speaks elephant telling joe what it's saying? :pac:

Solair

It's crazy that circuses involving animals are still operating in 2012!

Apart from the animal rights issues, the Health and Safety Authority should investigate that incident. Someone, or even several people, could have been killed or badly injured.

LH Pathe

Sounds like a concept album

starlit

Now I have seen everything! ha

So did Nelly the Elephant go back to the Circus then!?:pac:

Chuck Stone

Poor thing overheard someone saying 'jungle is massive init' and thought he was near home.

I hate when a beautiful big creature like that is reduced to performing for idiot humans.

NonSickle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMyEHY6ELs&feature=related

Sorry dont know how to get the you tube clip to come up but this show's how a poor baby elephant is trained from a circus trainer himself and he even admits its brutal, its is hard watching for anyone and the use of bull hooks were used here and on the elephant in cork.

pandaboy

chin_grin wrote: »

Also here.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056589411

That's this thread, is it not?

eth0

pandaboy wrote: »

with the advent of internet

Victor Barry is that you?

pandaboy

doxy wrote: »

I was actually there yesterday when the poor thing was trying to flee, he looked really scared and unhappy. It's shocking that they still allow circuses to keep animals in this day and age.

I completely agree. Though they may be kept to the best of animal standards, it's still not their natural environment. If a circus goes into debt and the animals, either auctioned or re-homed, are stuck in limbo.

pandaboy

eth0 wrote: »

Victor Barry is that you?

I could only dream of being him.

Born to Die

pandaboy wrote: »

I completely agree. Though they may be kept to the best of animal standards, it's still not their natural environment. If a circus goes into debt and the animals, either auctioned or re-homed, are stuck in limbo.

Harsh on Cork.

NonSickle

NonSickle wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMyEHY6ELs&feature=related

Sorry dont know how to get the you tube clip to come up but this show's how a poor baby elephant is trained from a circus trainer himself and he even admits its brutal, its is hard watching for anyone and the use of bull hooks were used here and on the elephant in cork.

Worth a look..

44leto

Solair wrote: »

It's crazy that circuses involving animals are still operating in 2012!

Apart from the animal rights issues, the Health and Safety Authority should investigate that incident. Someone, or even several people, could have been killed or badly injured.

I feel the same way, the cruelty involved in training an Elephant to prance around a ring and stand up on it's hind legs is horrendous. It's not like Elephants are a curiosity from the heart of the dark continent which nobody has ever seen. We seen them in a host of fascinating wildlife documentaries, or Zoos which IMO are fine.

I would not attend or bring a child to a circus that involves animal acts, you might as well allow Bear baiting, dog fighting or cat burning.