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Tesco outrageous price hikes

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Aren't you all the lucky ones having Tesco, here in Kilkenny we are not allowed to have the store; apparently the only county in Ireland. It is of no concern to our council that shoppers are travelling far and wide.
    Now I am not saying Tesco is perfect, however they do offer a greater choice, yes it maybe at a price; but it is up to the shopper to decide on value for money.
    I would suggest that there is very little to choose between Tesco, Dunnes or Supervalu, I probably use Supervalu and Aldi as they are close by: whilst complaining I see no one mentions goods which purport to be Irish are not necessarily so.
    So my intention of helping our countrymen or women falls flat, slightly off thread but Supervalu sell Blackwater Yoghurts, sure the first thing that springs to mind County Cork, look at the small Dairy Code, it unfortunately shows the origination as mainland Europe.
    I love a nice piece of cheese, Irish of course, whjy has my supposedly Irish cheese carrying a UK coding, someone said many moons ago that it was sent to the UK for packing purposes, fair enough but why does some of the same brand carry Irish codes.
    A well known irish firm produces Lasagne, c heck the code it originated in Eastern Europe, not that there is anything detrimental but I am trying to support Irish.
    Yes Pringles fluctuate from 3.29 to 2.00, depending on what store, Kit Kat Chunky has the same problem, and Tayto Cheese and Onion where a six pack is dearer than a nine packet takes some believing.
    I use Connaght Gold butter/spreads, now Aldi sell their own brand spreadable butter for around 2.30, Supervalu nearly 3.00 for Connaght gold, iot is the same product, check the code.
    One last one all the supermarkets sell a specialty yoghurt, it appears under different names but the same oval sort of tub, Lidl and Aldi it is 69c, Supervalu 89c Superquinn is now supervalu but it was close to 1 euro, they are the same, check the code made in West Cork.
    Shopping can be fun; wherever you go.
    Something to do with the dunnes influence in Kilkenny.

    Not saying anything sinister but I understand the town council have been opposing Tesco set up in the town and county inf favour of the local major retailer rather than healthy competition


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭198321


    I agree, Tesco isn't perfect and people looking for cheap stuff (and reasonable quality) go to Lidl and Aldi. I just don't understand why on earth would anybody shop in Supervalu, Dunnes or Centra. I think they are extremely expensive. Yet most complaints go to Tesco.

    People always compare Tesco to Lidl and Aldi .. it put some pressure on Tesco to keep price low (or at least try to get closer to their low prices) but at the same time why not compare Tesco to Dunnes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭JCabot


    Aren't you all the lucky ones having Tesco, here in Kilkenny we are not allowed to have the store; apparently the only county in Ireland. It is of no concern to our council that shoppers are travelling far and wide.
    Now I am not saying Tesco is perfect, however they do offer a greater choice, yes it maybe at a price; but it is up to the shopper to decide on value for money.
    I would suggest that there is very little to choose between Tesco, Dunnes or Supervalu, I probably use Supervalu and Aldi as they are close by: whilst complaining I see no one mentions goods which purport to be Irish are not necessarily so.
    So my intention of helping our countrymen or women falls flat, slightly off thread but Supervalu sell Blackwater Yoghurts, sure the first thing that springs to mind County Cork, look at the small Dairy Code, it unfortunately shows the origination as mainland Europe.
    I love a nice piece of cheese, Irish of course, whjy has my supposedly Irish cheese carrying a UK coding, someone said many moons ago that it was sent to the UK for packing purposes, fair enough but why does some of the same brand carry Irish codes.
    A well known irish firm produces Lasagne, c heck the code it originated in Eastern Europe, not that there is anything detrimental but I am trying to support Irish.
    Yes Pringles fluctuate from 3.29 to 2.00, depending on what store, Kit Kat Chunky has the same problem, and Tayto Cheese and Onion where a six pack is dearer than a nine packet takes some believing.
    I use Connaght Gold butter/spreads, now Aldi sell their own brand spreadable butter for around 2.30, Supervalu nearly 3.00 for Connaght gold, iot is the same product, check the code.
    One last one all the supermarkets sell a specialty yoghurt, it appears under different names but the same oval sort of tub, Lidl and Aldi it is 69c, Supervalu 89c Superquinn is now supervalu but it was close to 1 euro, they are the same, check the code made in West Cork.
    Shopping can be fun; wherever you go.

    I imagine Kilkenny town council or who ever decides on planning are forward thinking about the faith of your town. Often it's found these large one stop stores dangle the prospect of 100 jobs to get there planning however often these jobs are at the expense of local traders.

    So many towns now in Ireland have these big Tesco's which suck the trade away from the local pharmacies, butcher newsagents, clothes shops and so on to the extent many close. I live in a rural town with a large super market on each end on have noticed that one by one all the shops in the town centre are closing. It's becoming a ghost town. I m not saying we can avoid these supermarkets and certainty pricing is an issue but they are not god news for local business ad community. Think the answer not to shop in one store


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    The Dairy and meat code is in a small round circle, which will have ie at the top below is a site number, and below that ec, if you go into Irish Dairy codes you will find a complete list of who is at the specific site number, this doesn't only apply to Dairy produce, meat has the same coding, like for instance; Supervalu own brand ham can actually be Brady's.
    Fish, frozen has a coding, look in the cabinet, while you are in the refrigerator section frozen chicken pops, very interesting; I bet you don't check the origin of your eggs, do you, it seems they jump over the border from time to time, inside the box there is a diagram showing the country etc.
    Some ice cream is coded though I think some leave it off the packets but there is a code system with the Dairy section.
    It makes shopping great fun, okay it takes time, if you buy ready meals they should have a code; at least you can make a choice knowing the country of origin.
    However, we import a fair quantity of meat, where does it go? It unfortunately appears to get lost in the system, a factory renders the meat and out comes something with an Irish code, so our code system at least tells what factory handled it last.
    Yes Tesco is blamed for the decimation of small town shops, however online shopping must also be held accountable; one argument is why should we pay through the nose at a small shop for something the supermarket sells considerably cheaqper.
    Have a nice day Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Nanazolie


    198321 wrote: »
    I agree, Tesco isn't perfect and people looking for cheap stuff (and reasonable quality) go to Lidl and Aldi. I just don't understand why on earth would anybody shop in Supervalu, Dunnes or Centra. I think they are extremely expensive. Yet most complaints go to Tesco.

    People always compare Tesco to Lidl and Aldi .. it put some pressure on Tesco to keep price low (or at least try to get closer to their low prices) but at the same time why not compare Tesco to Dunnes?

    Dunnes marketing policies are not as aggressive as Tesco's, IMO. I have switched back to Dunnes after years of favouring Tesco (more choice) because I was sick of Tesco's price increases. I found that most of the items I bought at Tesco were cheaper in Dunnes, take for instance the spelt flour which is 2.95€ in Tesco and 2.39€ in Dunnes.
    I am just annoyed that Dunnes will not do online shopping. As much as I like the 'fun' of shopping, I just don't have the time. I can only shop at lunch time or late at night when the kids are not with me because my little one is autistic and the supermarket is not his favourite place. As a result, I use Superquinn for online monthly or bi monthly shopping, then shop at Aldi, Dunnes and sometimes Lidl (for some reasons, I don't really like Lidl. Too many branded products for my liking) for smaller items like milk, eggs, fruits and vegs, bread...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Dunnes are actually marginally cheaper than Tesco, I've found.
    The reason is because Aldi&Lidl are putting them under pressure to compete on price as shown in recent market share surveys.
    The only problem is you have to actually go to Dunnes, as they have a woeful website and don't seem to promote themselves very well. They need to seriously invest in their marketing strategy.

    Tesco Wild And Whippy Bars 280g was €1.19 now €1.30


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Dunnes are actually marginally cheaper than Tesco, I've found.
    The reason is because Aldi&Lidl are putting them under pressure to compete on price as shown in recent market share surveys.
    The only problem is you have to actually go to Dunnes, as they have a woeful website and don't seem to promote themselves very well. They need to seriously invest in their marketing strategy.

    Tesco Wild And Whippy Bars 280g was €1.19 now €1.30

    The problem is (for me) that while Dunnes have 2 supermarkets near me, the choice in both is rubbish compared to Tesco, and the one that is closest to me with a free car park tends to be very badly stocked. I would tend to purchase tesco brand rather than 'tesco value', but in Dunnes you might (or might not) only have a st bernard equivalent or on a rare occasion a 'simply better' option.

    Either way I find Aldi to be far better for most things, but there's always stuff I have to get in tescos (or rarely Dunnes). Plus the convenience of tesco being 24 hours, having a far greater choice, and having self service tills, negates any extra spend that I may incur.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Dunnes are actually marginally cheaper than Tesco, I've found.
    It can depend on how people do their shopping, if you go in with a list made out with no prior knowledge or if you have brand loyalty etc.

    In tesco nearly everything I buy is on offer, some are often not advertised as offers right know but I know its reduced below the normal price. So you could say I rarely ever pay the average yearly price for anything in tesco. I have very little brand loyalty too.

    Tesco seem to do the "price high & then claim a high reduction" marketing technique a lot more than dunnes, so I can well imagine the average yearly price of products in tesco is more than dunnes.
    snubbleste wrote: »
    The only problem is you have to actually go to Dunnes, as they have a woeful website and don't seem to promote themselves very well.
    Its astonishing how bad it is. In tesco you can filter out only offers in various sections, so I have my shopping list made up before I go in, and its based on offers. Before I used to go around finding new better offers and having to go back again to put stuff back. Tesco online also clearly state when offers will end, very useful if you are managing space at home, e.g. I might clear out my freezer by eating all food, to make way for buying loads of frozen stuff on offer which is ending next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    In truth there is very little to separate Tesco, Dunnes and Supervalu, Lidl and Aldi are a different kettle of fish, equally Eurospar, Centra, Daybreak and Spar do not fit into the supermarket battle.
    Most of the stores have promotions so what you gain in one you lose in the other; to be honest trying to get the best bargains is hard work, calculating the actual cost of items is very time consuming, then shove in quality and you have another headache.
    I always rate Lidl as the best fruit and veg supplier, but if you have a large Supervalu they are not bad but dearer, Aldi need to take a look at their effort and Tesco and Dunnes are way behind, having said that other's may well disagree.
    Sometimes cheap can work out dearer; if you end up binning food it is not cheap, one must always take into consideration the cost of travelling, it is part of the bill, throw in loyalty cards and rewards, a right mucking fuddle.
    Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Sometimes cheap can work out dearer; if you end up binning food it is not cheap
    I lived with a guy who would throw out half a sliced pan almost every week. Those half pans are pretty expensive relative to a full one.

    He got brennans, in tesco a full 800g is €1.58 normally (its actually on offer now). The 400g half pan is €1.23, so I can see how he would go for the large one hoping he would eat it, but he very rarely went past halfway.

    BUT panda collection charges are €0.277 per kilo. So throwing out 400g was costing another 11cent, so a thrown out half a full pan meant 400g was got for 1.69, rather than 1.23. It should have gone in the brown bin (still a charge) or you could feed birds I suppose.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭ceegee


    JCabot wrote: »
    I imagine Kilkenny town council or who ever decides on planning are forward thinking about the faith of your town. Often it's found these large one stop stores dangle the prospect of 100 jobs to get there planning however often these jobs are at the expense of local traders.

    So many towns now in Ireland have these big Tesco's which suck the trade away from the local pharmacies, butcher newsagents, clothes shops and so on to the extent many close. I live in a rural town with a large super market on each end on have noticed that one by one all the shops in the town centre are closing. It's becoming a ghost town. I m not saying we can avoid these supermarkets and certainty pricing is an issue but they are not god news for local business ad community. Think the answer not to shop in one store

    I think the main gripe Kilkenny people have is that both of the largest supermarkets in town are Dunnes Stores (at one stage they had 3 but the smallest one shut). The opening of the newer Dunnes hamstrung the new shopping centre its located in as people just stuck with the original one in the centre of town. Allowing dunnes, lidl and aldi to open 2 stores each in the town while blocking tesco is not in the best interest of local residents imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    I probably sympathise with opinions about the loss of small shops in town centres, however there is not just one bad wolf, who came in first apart from Quinnsworth and Crazy Prices, non other than Supervalu;
    Supervalu have decimated more small shops, they sell or did; Fags, papers and magazines, flowers, fruit and veg, household goods, so along comes another trader who might or might not make a better job and they have sucked out the life; No my friends it is progress; if you are old enough you might remember having to go from one counter to the next; perhaps not here but in the UK we had Co-ops different counters different foods and at each one you had to queue.
    America probably contributed to the demise of our town centres, but come to Kilkenny the centre is vibrant without the big bad wolf but four other voracious tigers plus a considerable number of siblings, but our city centre survives.
    The council doesn't help by not making the high st one way, but you can't have everything.
    Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Most of the stores have promotions so what you gain in one you lose in the other;
    Tesco is the more extreme example. As I said before I mainly only buy offers in tesco, so I do find it the cheapest in general.

    This very site perfectly illustrates my point. In "bargain alerts" we have a massive thread dedicated only to bargains in tesco, no other supermarket has a similar thread, nearly 5000 posts at this stage. And on the flip side no other supermarket has a big dedicated thread in the "rip off" forum.

    Often what you see in this thread 1 week will be in the bargain thread a week or 2 later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Nanazolie


    rubadub wrote: »

    Often what you see in this thread 1 week will be in the bargain thread a week or 2 later.

    I complain about expensive Champagne :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭198321


    Nanazolie wrote: »
    I complain about expensive Champagne :D

    will be on offer for 25e before christmass :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 724 ✭✭✭bewhiched


    Just to add I bought chili flakes in tesco ages ago for 59cent NOW€109


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    bewhiched wrote: »
    Just to add I bought chili flakes in tesco ages ago for 59cent NOW€109

    Now that really is an outrageous price hike!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,519 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    bewhiched wrote: »
    Just to add I bought chili flakes in tesco ages ago for 59cent NOW€109

    At least you're not complaining that they increased 'overnight'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Own brand sliced bread was 95 c last thursday. Today it's 1.22


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    bewhiched wrote: »
    Just to add I bought chili flakes in tesco ages ago for 59cent NOW€109
    Now that really is an outrageous price hike!!
    As this is the rip off ireland forum it should be pointed out these are £1 in the UK, so its cheaper here.

    You are crazy to buy spices in supermarkets anyways, go to asian supermarkets. I cannot find a history confirming if they were 59cent before, but it sounds unusually cheap if it is indeed this product in the glass jar.

    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=251620901

    The branded equivalent is €2.25
    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=257507670


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    To be honest what else do you expect; the large supermarket groups carry very large lines of products, some fast moving some slow; you are talking about specialist products, go to an Asian store or Lidl or aldi.
    I really have little sympathy complaining about any of the large supermarkets, yes of course own brands will invariably be cheaper, do you get the same weight as the branded product?
    We might live in rip-off Ireland but at the same time we have to be realistic, we just do not have the population, for example we have a small baker who charges 2.75 euro for a large sliced white loaf, we have another baker who charges 2.20euro for a sliced white, I can buy a large white in Aldi or lidl for less that 1euro.
    If I choose to buy specialised bread it is my choice, I am choosing to pay that amount. If you look at market fluctuations on some of the ingredients then it gives a clue.
    I would say it pays to shop wisely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Batchelors Chickpeas now €1.49, for some strange reason.. making even the local Eurospar seem like good value.

    Tesco own brand are fifty odd cent a can, nothing particularly wrong with them. The chickpeas tend to be noticeably smaller. Same shelf in the store. Tesco Ballybrack, South County Dublin.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Amalgam wrote: »
    Batchelors Chickpeas now €1.49, for some strange reason.. making even the local Eurospar seem like good value.
    Sounds normal enough to me, 1.41 in superquinn
    http://www.superquinn.ie/shopping/shopping/shop.aspx?prodid=90057450

    1.42 in tesco
    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256060582


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    saw this today . frys turkish delight 1.18 or TWO FOR 1EURO... needless to say i bought 2 of em.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Tesco own brand Marshmallows (pink packet) started off at 62c about a year and a half ago, went up to 86c earlier this year and only saw my receipt when I got home - they are gone up to €1.25 per packet !!!!!!!!!!

    How the hell can this be justified.

    Scandalous. A 100% increase !!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭juneg


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Tesco own brand Marshmallows (pink packet) started off at 62c about a year and a half ago, went up to 86c earlier this year and only saw my receipt when I got home - they are gone up to €1.25 per packet !!!!!!!!!!

    How the hell can this be justified.

    Scandalous. A 100% increase !!!!!!!!!!!

    aldi marshmallows are superior. Guaranteed. have used a lot for chocolate fountain!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Sionnach123


    All these stores are taking us for mugs. I think Marks and Spencer are a pure disgrace. I recently moved back to Dublin after many years working in the UK, I can't believe the prices. I did some research and they effectively use at best a 1.4 exchange rate. I found one particular item (not in my price range but...) Cashmere coat, cost in the UK £499 (approx €600) price in M&S Ireland €869. WHAT!! The Irish Nation should boycott M&S and all other similar outlets that are preying on their ability to manipulate the Euro rate compared to Sterling. :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭brian_gall85


    How much would a similar item cost in a country like Vietnam?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    WHAT!! The Irish Nation should boycott M&S and all other similar outlets
    There is no need to call for a boycott, if the prices are as ludicrously high as you are making out then people will just shop elsewhere.

    Fact is they are just going by standard business practise and maximising profits. They charge what they think will be most profitable. They will see what local shops are charging and usually be in and around the same price. So when you ask people to boycott them where do you suggest they go? the Irish owned shop charging the same or more?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    tesco wine gums 250g was 62c last week(up from 56c a few months ago) now 1.25 today. over a 100% increase!


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