For the attention of recent road races organisers around the North Clare area.

haybob

kenmc wrote: »

Well you wanted it to be on the local radio, it was, you just missed it.
And you know there's an event next sunday too, so all's well that ends well.

Enjoy the next one.

A here 1 minute after the news on a saturday and sunday would do me, something that gets to me and my kind and I'm not looking for an add at Clare Marts either

RobFowl

haybob wrote: »

A here 1 minute after the news on a saturday and sunday would do me, something that gets to me and my kind and I'm not looking for an add at Clare Marts either

Is this the RTE main evening news?
Or maybe Sky and the BBC as well??

John_Rambo

haybob wrote: »

I hope you arent accusing me of being smug all I want is a bit of courtesy

Nope. You are seeing red.

The ones that are being smug, laughing and giving you the finger are anonymous posters that probably don't have anything to do with the race, but want to see loads of thanks under their funny little posts. Sadly, you see them as the cyclists that went by your house and place of work, they most likely aren't.

The thread is a car crash thread, people are only logging on to annoy you and get a thrill in front of their friends. I'd get on to your local cycling club and explain what happened, ask for the over zealous steward to be talked to.

haybob

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nope. You are seeing red.

The ones that are being smug, laughing and giving you the finger are anonymous posters that probably don't have anything to do with the race, but want to see loads of thanks under their funny little posts. Sadly, you see them as the cyclists that went by your house and place of work, they most likely aren't.

The thread is a car crash thread, people are only logging on to annoy you and get a thrill in front of their friends. I'd get on to your local cycling club and explain what happened, ask for the over zealous steward to be talked to.

I appreciate what your saying but I'm not angery either but it certainkly got a responce

oflahero

The problem here doesn't appear to have anything to do with cycling, charity or the mysterious, fictitious 'road tax' - just a simple case of some gom in a hi-viz jacket briefly being a dick to the OP.

I'm sure that if the Clare clubs just added an extra reminder to their marshals to be courteous at all times, then unpleasantness like this could be entirely avoided.

I've always tried to give a wave to and thank every car I've held up (for thirty seconds max) when marshalling, but one time in a hundred some thundering arse in an oversized box will ignore you completely, and insist on tearing his way past into the path of a racing pack. That's when, and only then, it can be very tempting to fire off some abuse - in the interest of general safety, you understand.

Lumen

Stop saying race. Please.

haybob

oflahero wrote: »

The problem here doesn't appear to have anything to do with cycling, charity or the mysterious, fictitious 'road tax' - just a simple case of some gom in a hi-viz jacket briefly being a dick to the OP.

I'm sure that if the Clare clubs just added an extra reminder to their marshals to be courteous at all times, then unpleasantness like this could be entirely avoided.

I've always tried to give a wave to and thank every car I've held up (for thirty seconds max) when marshalling, but one time in a hundred some thundering arse in an oversized box will ignore you completely, and insist on tearing his way past into the path of a racing pack. That's when, and only then, it can be very tempting to fire off some abuse - in the interest of general safety, you understand.

NO I'm all grown up and not that fragile. I's just like to know when a several very large groups of cyclists will be passing my door and causing disruption. I'm even ok with the disruption but I'd like to know

haybob

RobFowl wrote: »

Is this the RTE main evening news?
Or maybe Sky and the BBC as well??

the parish newsletter would do me fine

LadyTBolt

I can understand the OP's frustration if he was indeed stuck in his house for 2hrs because of an event. It's a typical feeling when you are stuck in that you want to get out and vice versa. 2hrs is a long time to be told by a stranger that you cannot leave your house and I certainly would not be pleased if that happened to me. However, I do not feel the OP should be venting at the cycling clubs or on a cycling forum.
I'm sure the event organisers followed all the correct protocol as should have been outlined by the Clare Co. Council and/or An Garda Siochana when the event was being organised.
At this point if it frustrates the OP he is more than entitled to contact CCC and/or An Garda Siochana and make a complaint and if it is indeed a genuinely upsetting occurence that the OP feels the requirement to actively protest he should indeed lodge a complaint.
There are two very different views in this argument. There is a homeowner who is trapped on his property due to a road closure for the purposes of a public event. Then there are public road users who need the public road for a short time to complete an event. Both genuine parties. No right/wrong solution here I'm afraid.
OP, you now do know there is an upcoming event so you have sufficient time to make alternative arrangements if you do not want to spend the road closure time on your property. And cyclists, be sure to give all those people standing in their gardens watching you zip by a big wave. It's the least you can do knowing they are trapped while you control the access to their property for your personal enjoyment.

Cookie_Monster

how exactly are you trapped in your house? Just wait for a gap in traffic and pull out, like at ANY OTHER TIME. Then it's up to your to safely overtake any cyclists you encounter

haybob

I wouldnt be botherd going to either authority, the attitude of the steward annoyed me but I will get over that what annoys me is the lack of information about the disruption.

LadyTBolt wrote: »

I can understand the OP's frustration if he was indeed stuck in his house for 2hrs because of an event. It's a typical feeling when you are stuck in that you want to get out and vice versa. 2hrs is a long time to be told by a stranger that you cannot leave your house and I certainly would not be pleased if that happened to me. However, I do not feel the OP should be venting at the cycling clubs or on a cycling forum.
I'm sure the event organisers followed all the correct protocol as should have been outlined by the Clare Co. Council and/or An Garda Siochana when the event was being organised.
At this point if it frustrates the OP he is more than entitled to contact CCC and/or An Garda Siochana and make a complaint and if it is indeed a genuinely upsetting occurence that the OP feels the requirement to actively protest he should indeed lodge a complaint.
There are two very different views in this argument. There is a homeowner who is trapped on his property due to a road closure for the purposes of a public event. Then there are public road users who need the public road for a short time to complete an event. Both genuine parties. No right/wrong solution here I'm afraid.
OP, you now do know there is an upcoming event so you have sufficient time to make alternative arrangements if you do not want to spend the road closure time on your property. And cyclists, be sure to give all those people standing in their gardens watching you zip by a big wave. It's the least you can do knowing they are trapped while you control the access to their property for your personal enjoyment.

haybob

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

how exactly are you trapped in your house? Just wait for a gap in traffic and pull out, like at ANY OTHER TIME. Then it's up to your to safely overtake and cyclists you encounter

Kept going by the house, you can’t pull out on front of oncoming traffic. There were more that 4 or 5 you know

Keep_Her_Lit

You're making heavy weather of this "abuse" to which you've been allegedly subjected. Based on your demeanour on this thread, I’d be somewhat sceptical as to whether your multiple references to this incident provide a complete, accurate and unbiased account.

In my limited experience, marshals at cycling events are typically volunteers with a positive outlook who appreciate the importance of interacting with members of the public in a respectful and professional manner. They aren't generally the type who relish the opportunity to hurl unprovoked abuse at complete strangers. That's not to say that they couldn't find themselves in a situation where they dispensed with their normal diplomacy. That could happen if, for arguments sake, somebody's behaviour posed a potential or actual risk to the safety of the cyclists or other road users.

On your first reply to the thread, which you started, you're straight into SCREAMING CAPS LOCK territory – unlikely to illicit sympathetic responses from the cyclists who post here. Unsurprisingly, it isn't necessary to go any further back than the 10 most recent threads on which you've posted to find you provoking a reaction very similar to the one you're getting here.

"Don't know what's wrong with poster 'haybob' - he seems to have a bee in his bonnet concerning townspeople ."

And to top it off, you seem to think that jow duffy (sic) is going to wade in make it all right for you. Birds of a feather!

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'd get on to your local cycling club and explain what happened, ask for the volunteer over zealous steward to be talked to give his side of the story.

haybob

so your saying I'm telling lies well I'm not.

Keep_Her_Lit wrote: »

You're making heavy weather of this "abuse" to which you've been allegedly subjected. Based on your demeanour on this thread, I’d be somewhat sceptical as to whether your multiple references to this incident provide a complete, accurate and unbiased account.

In my limited experience, marshals at cycling events are typically volunteers with a positive outlook who appreciate the importance of interacting with members of the public in a respectful and professional manner. They aren't generally the type who relish the opportunity to hurl unprovoked abuse at complete strangers. That's not to say that they couldn't find themselves in a situation where they dispensed with their normal diplomacy. That could happen if, for arguments sake, somebody's behaviour posed a potential or actual risk to the safety of the cyclists or other road users.

On your first reply to the thread, which you started, you're straight into SCREAMING CAPS LOCK territory – unlikely to illicit sympathetic responses from the cyclists who post here. Unsurprisingly, it isn't necessary to go any further back than the 10 most recent threads on which you've posted to find you provoking a reaction very similar to the one you're getting here.

"Don't know what's wrong with poster 'haybob' - he seems to have a bee in his bonnet concerning townspeople ."

And to top it off, you seem to think that jow duffy (sic) is going to wade in make it all right for you. Birds of a feather!

07Lapierre

haybob wrote: »

Kept going by the house, you can’t pull out on front of oncoming traffic.

Yes you can...put on some cycling shorts, get your bike out of the shed and join them!

Cookie_Monster

haybob wrote: »

Kept going by the house, you can’t pull out on front of oncoming traffic. There were more that 4 or 5 you know

clearly but I somehow doubt there is a constant flow without any gaps for any prolonged period of time.

Keep_Her_Lit

haybob wrote: »

so your saying I'm telling lies well I'm not.

No, I am not saying that you are telling lies. Try reading my post again. I am saying that I would have a niggling doubt as to whether your references to this alleged abuse provide a complete, accurate and unbiased account of what happened.

I can certainly believe that you might have been "told to ‘’**** into that gate there’’ by some lad in a yellow vest directing traffic on behalf of the race."

As someone who has also marshalled a few times, I just find myself wondering whether it really was nothing more than a gratutious, unprovoked outburst on the part of the marshal.

Since I wasn't there and since the marshal in question (presumably) isn't going to appear on this thread to give his account of the incident, that leaves us stuck with your version of events. Don't bother repeating what you've already said.

boege

haybob wrote: »

I wouldnt be botherd going to either authority, the attitude of the steward annoyed me but I will get over that what annoys me is the lack of information about the disruption.

Heybob.
I suspect this is the core of your annoyance, not the cyclists passing by making legitimate use of the road (and, BTW, not racing).

I have done all three Clare cycling events over the past years (this one, Burren tour and Sky tour). I would have sympathy for you if this was the Sky tour (road closures too long IMO) and possibly even the Burren tour in June (sheer numbers) but this cycling tour is pretty small, as leisure tours go. For the life of me I can't understand how you are unable to leave your house due to this leisure tour. I have spent signifianct stretches cycling on my own on this leisure tour (done it twice) as the 150 riders are spread over three different routres and along fairly lengthy distances.

Contacting each house along the ribbon development that has blighted Clare is not physically possible, given the small number of organisers of these events. A radio advert and perhaps local paper advert probably warranted but the latter is fairly expensive these days.

So if a marshal gave you abuse they were way out of line but if that is not the source of your annoyance then you I am sure you are having great fun winding up the cyclitterati here:)

chakattack

Haybob is having a hard time of it here which seems a little unfair. Probably not the wisest complaining about a cycling event on a cycling forum but no need for the smartass responses for the sake of an argument/entertainment from some here.

I can well imagine a marshall using bad language and being an ignorant pr*ck and I can see how it would be hard to get out of your gate with a constant stream of cyclists if it was a big event. ROK springs to mind.

@ Haybob it seems you're well informed of the next event so I don't know what venting here is going to achieve and about last Sunday, what's done is done. Notification would have been a courtesy (like how the Newbridge GP was run - excellently I must add) but probably not a strict requirement or matter for the Gardai.

I suppose a little patience and respect is needed from both sides. Can you park on the other side of the road for this Sunday?

Captain Havoc

chakattack wrote: »

Haybob is having a hard time of it here which seems a little unfair.

I'm gonna have to disagree, he should be aiming his complaints at the cycling clubs in question and not at posters here.

Captain Havoc

I'm gonna lock this down for the night