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Irish Rail - Fare evasion fine

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  • #102
    Carawaystick
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    This is true to a point,relating to the specific power of Arrest.

    However,a Dublin Bus Inspector does have the power to detain any individual who is suspected of giving false-details pending the arrival of the POlice...

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/About-Us/Dublin-Bus-Bye-Laws/Enforcement-Procedures/


    The Dublin Bus Bye-Laws of 1996 are a comprehensive set of powers and cover all of the bases which regularly merit discussion on Boards and elsewhere.

    However,what is lacking is a cohesive and focused approach to their implementation :(


    While I appreciate there's a lot of fare dodging going on, there's a fairly high bar set in the link you provided Alex.
    The Authorised person has to have reasonable grounds for believing the name/address is false, before detaining the suspected fare dodger.

    Detaining a person, to check if thom reckons they're correct doesn't seem to be allowed.
    and it seems they can only be detained to await the gardaí, so the inspector would have to call the cops each and every time.

    There is ( in the case of rail for sure) the need to prove intent of fare dodging, as well as the act of (unintentional) fare dodging.

    If the CIÉ companies are going to use criminal methods to deter fare evasion, they need to provide criminal proofs.

    Ryanair don't have any bylaws for them, they use civil law/(inter)national legislation

    and for all their cost cutting have 8 staff per 200 passengers, compared to IÉ's 1per 1000 on full trains serving Broombridge.


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