Nanny State - cheese and childrens tv

mike65

Seriously have we lost the run of ourselves? The Broadcasting Authority of Ireland has (after some debate and argument) added cheese to the list of "bad foods" that shall not be advertised before 6 pm on Irish telly.

Overweight children are as they are because their parents are failing in their job, not because cheese string might be advertised on the Den!

dark crystal

Cheese is a great food for kids - what a ridiculous decision

conor.hogan.2

TUDC (too unimportant don't care)

I'm still annoyed I can't supersize in McDonalds.

Kylo Ren

Cheesus that's terrible.

KKkitty

That's laughable. It's a source of calcium. The Nanny State in this country is a joke.

kylith

If anything kids should be eating more cheese.

Have they banned the advertising of Haribo, Cadbury, HB, et al? Cos if they haven't then this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Nothingbetter2d

mike65 wrote: »

Overweight children are as they are because their parents are failing in their job, not because cheese string might be advertised on the Den!

but aint cheese string full of additives?

AnonoBoy

But surely them bones them bones need calcium?

flanders1979

Some parents are as gullible as children when it comes to advertising. Fatty foods are not good for fatty kids. Calcium shouldn't be top of the agenda for a child shaped like a football.

Larianne

They should ban TV before 6pm. Then the kids might go outside and play instead of sitting on their asses watching TV.

AnonoBoy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But surely them bones them bones need calcium?

And that's a natural law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygf0gRQsUb4

KKkitty

kylith wrote: »

If anything kids should be eating more cheese.

Have they banned the advertising of Haribo, Cadbury, HB, et al? Cos if they haven't then this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I still see those advertised before 6 and seriously no child is in bed at 6 so resistance to advertise cheese before 6 is futile.

Voodu Child

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

but aint cheese string full of additives?

It's mostly rubber from recycled tyres and condoms.

AnonoBoy

KKkitty wrote: »

I still see those advertised before 6 and seriously no child is in bed at 6 so resistance to advertise cheese before 6 is futile.

CHEESE RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!

The battle cry of the soft and creamy branch of the Borg.

Run_to_da_hills

They will probably introduce a law banning the word cheese being used when taking family snapshots in the presence of kids in public places.

Nothing would surprise me in this state after the introduction of the medieval blasphemy laws.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Those evil FF'ers gave out free cheese didn't they? How dare they try and corrupt our children.:mad:

Temptamperu

They started with banning adverts, where does this end though?

KKkitty

AnonoBoy wrote: »

KKkitty wrote: »

I still see those advertised before 6 and seriously no child is in bed at 6 so resistance to advertise cheese before 6 is futile.

CHEESE RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!

The battle cry of the soft and creamy branch of the Borg.

Oh I don't know anymore. I'm pretty cheesed off about this

sombaht

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

but aint cheese string full of additives?

A cheese string is not cheese!

Cheers,
sombaht

Scanlas The 2nd

flanders1979 wrote: »

Some parents are as gullible as children when it comes to advertising. Fatty foods are not good for fatty kids. Calcium shouldn't be top of the agenda for a child shaped like a football.

Cheese is healthy as is saturated fat. It's the vegetable oils and hydrogenated fats that need to be avoided.

Pace2008

Temptamperu wrote: »

They started with banning adverts, where does this end though?

Jews in ovens, I fear.

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Cheese is healthy as is saturated fat. It's the vegetable oils and hydrogenated fats that need to be avoided.

It may be healthy but it's still very calorific, about 400kcals in 100g of full-fat cheddar if I recall, and I know plenty of people who lash it on thick when they're doing up a sambo or the like. Best to be sparing if weight's an issue. The chemical nature of the fat is pretty irrelevant when it comes to counting calories. In fact this seems to be a very common problem with people who can't understand why they're not losing weight - they think "eating healthy" is the key to getting slim when they should be mainly concerned with the energy content of their diet.

fishy fishy

here we go again, trying to be like the US.

I think this happened a few months ago in the US. People went into uproar about it and the fallout was that now a PIZZA is considered a vegetable in the States (they tried to ban it as an unhealthy food, which it is). or some such nonsense like that.

Will we ever have a mind of our own.

There is nothing wrong with Cheese, proper cheese, taken in the right amounts. However those cheese stringy things look like they came out of a nuclear factory waste dump.

Anyone

Imagine the shít hemorrhage they must have had when they saw this being advertised!

http://cosmetic-candy.com/wp-content/uploads/philladelphia-chocolate-spread.jpg

gimmick

Porkers ruining it for everyone again.

I for one will miss the cheese adverts before 6pm.

Happy now fatties?

dark crystal

fishy fishy wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with Cheese, proper cheese, taken in the right amounts. However those cheese stringy things look like they came out of a nuclear factory waste dump.

From Dr. Evelyn Hannon, a nutritionist specialist:

Despite a lot of misconceptions about Cheestrings, it actually compares very well with ‘normal cheese’ in terms of nutritional content. I have listed the nutritional content of both below for a 21g portion of each.

Standard full fat cheddar – Calories - 87kcal, Total fat - 7.3g, Saturates - 4.6g, Sugars – 0g, Salt – 0.4g

Cheestrings – Calories - 69kcal, Total fat - 5g, Saturates – 3.1g, Sugars – 0g, Salt – 0.4g

As you can see, it actually contains less total fat and saturated fat (about 30% less) compared to a standard full fat cheddar cheese. As Cheestrings comes in individually wrapped 21g portions it is easy to control portion size which is important to try to do for all foods. Cheestrings and 'normal' cheese' are both rich in calcium (18% RDA per 21g potion) & contain no artificial colours, flavours or preservatives.

fishy fishy

what about the plastic content?

no, seriously - it all depends on what brand cheesestring you are eating. There are more than one. Also the fact that it is a "plaything" as well as a food items will probably ensure that kids will gobble more of them. Give em a slice of proper cheese. Healthier overall and won't relate eating with playing with toys. Food is food - toys are toys.

Also, doesn't that person you quoted above actually WORK for "cheestrings" company.

44leto

I actually like seeing kids eat cheese but not the calorie packed soft kid cheese they eat.

I love cheese and I wont hear a bad word spoken about it. It says something about obesity I eat ALOT of cheese, butter, and I only use regular milk. I am not over weight as I exercise.

I am convinced eating is only a small part of obesity.

CrazyRabbit

After all these studies, it seems that all foods are unhealthy. Therefore, in order to stay at a healthy weight and cholesterol level, I've decided to give up eating.

From now on, I shall survive on a healthy diet of water & air.

Oh wait...our water is dangerous as well....argh!

dark crystal

fishy fishy wrote: »

what about the plastic content?

I agree it looks horrible, but kids love it!

They just heat the cheese and stretch it like Mozzarella and then shape it into sticks. Kids like food shaped like sticks for some reason.

AnonoBoy

That does it - I'm off to set some cheese on fire outside the Dáil in protest.

Dairy immolation is the only way forward.

fishy fishy

dark crystal wrote: »

I agree it looks horrible, but kids love it!

They just heat the cheese and stretch it like Mozzarella and then shape it into sticks. Kids like food shaped like sticks for some reason.

it might be a way to get the stuff into them, but can you not see how they would associate it with playing, toys, etc. i think food should be given as food and not something to play with. Because more often than not this mental image of food being a toy/playing with it/making them feel great will get stuck in their heads when they are young and they will grow up with that assocation with food - hence the "supersize me" generation.

Food should be just food for eating only. (in my opinion of course)

fishy fishy

dark crystal wrote: »

I agree it looks horrible, but kids love it!

They just heat the cheese and stretch it like Mozzarella and then shape it into sticks. Kids like food shaped like sticks for some reason.

the more you mess with a food, the unhealthier it becomes for consumption. that cheestring is so overprocessed you may as well be eating plastic. I would worry more about that that person you quoted is not saying about it - after all she is the company's nutritionist.

It's like the branding on the low fat foods in stores - it might say it's low fat but it doesn't tell you they have tripled up on the sugar content to make up for the lack of fat.

Sykk

Ban the parents for raising obese children and ruining their life.

dark crystal

fishy fishy wrote: »

the more you mess with a food, the unhealthier it becomes for consumption. that cheestring is so overprocessed you may as well be eating plastic. I would worry more about that that person you quoted is not saying about it - after all she is the company's nutritionist.

It's like the branding on the low fat foods in stores - it might say it's low fat but it doesn't tell you they have tripled up on the sugar content to make up for the lack of fat.

She's not the company's nutritionist, just a doctor who was answering questions on mumsnet.com.

Besides, all the nutritional info is there on the back of the packets. It's hard to mis-sell anything to canny consumers these days, especially with all the modern laws pertaining to advertising and labelling and so on.

There's nothing wrong with cheesestrings at all. In fact, they're a healthy enough snack for kids, full of calcium and vitamins. I don't see a problem there at all, tbh.

Sunnyisland

The reason for this ban is more due to the fact that they don't want children to end up as easy singles.

M cebee

I agree with the ban
yes parents are responsible for kids diet

the advertisers are just slyly targetting kids who then want all this crap

and also kids are brainwashed from an early age into believing slogans such as

a mars a day helps you work,rest and play
-i believed all that **** growing up until I realised its all waffle

mconigol

M cebee wrote: »

I agree with the ban
yes parents are responsible for kids diet

the advertisers are just slyly targetting kids who then want all this crap

and also kids are brainwashed from an early age into believing slogans such as

a mars a day helps you work,rest and play
-i believed all that **** growing up until I realised its all waffle

Speak for yourself.

fishy fishy

dark crystal wrote: »

She's not the company's nutritionist, just a doctor who was answering questions on mumsnet.com.

"Kerry Foods / Cheestrings nutritionist Dr. Evelyn Hannan ........."


Besides, all the nutritional info is there on the back of the packets. It's hard to mis-sell anything to canny consumers these days, especially with all the modern laws pertaining to advertising and labelling and so on.

not every customer is canny - they believe what they see on the front of the box/tin. Also, if you are playing with your food, there's more of a chance you will eat two/three times as much. food advertising is the most loose advertising of the lot of them. Because something says it is fat free, it doesn't mean is sugar free and vise versa - becausae something says light it doesn't mean it is less calorific than full fat products - it could even be more. The Light could pertain to the colour. food advertisers get away with an awful lot. Once something has been tampered with it becomes more unhealthy - the more tampering or processing the more unhealthy it gets.


There's nothing wrong with cheesestrings at all. In fact, they're a healthy enough snack for kids, full of calcium and vitamins. I don't see a problem there at all, tbh


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RichieC

what a load of old tosh..

kylith

fishy fishy wrote: »

what about the plastic content?

no, seriously - it all depends on what brand cheesestring you are eating. There are more than one. Also the fact that it is a "plaything" as well as a food items will probably ensure that kids will gobble more of them. Give em a slice of proper cheese. Healthier overall and won't relate eating with playing with toys. Food is food - toys are toys.

Also, doesn't that person you quoted above actually WORK for "cheestrings" company.

Balderdash. I had great fun as a child breaking prawns apart to get at the morsels in the claws. I made mashed potato fields with sausage trees and faces with sausage mouths, rasher ears, and egg eyes. Food can be entertainment too.

There is no reason not to have fun with your food. It's there to enjoy, not just to stick in your face-hole. If food weren't supposed to be fun Heston Blumenthal would be out of a job.

D1stant

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

TUDC (too unimportant don't care)

WTPIIYOAWYTHTET? (Whats the point in inventing your own acronyms when you then have to explain them?)

Icepick

Funny how people don't complain about a nanny state when the gvt gives them something they like.

dark crystal

fishy fishy wrote: »

ok

Apologies, I didn't see any reference to her link with Kerry foods in the article. Seems she's also the nutritionist for Superquinn as well.

Doesn't mean what she said wasn't true, though. Like I said, it's all there on the packet.

As for not all shoppers being canny, that's up to them. Every ingredient in the product they are buying is labelled. If they want to know what they're feeding their kids, just turn over the packet and get the relevant info there.

Duggy747

Might as well just speed up the process, ban everything and just head back to the caves.

Good thing they did this, cheese was going to be our undoing as a race and have us all wiped out. I'll be happy in my cave hunting some wild cats.

AngryBollix

Shaft and fanny cheddar will have to do

dark crystal

Duggy747 wrote: »

Might as well just speed up the process, ban everything and just head back to the caves.

Good thing they did this, cheese was going to be our undoing as a race and have us all wiped out. I'll be happy in my cave hunting some wild cats.

Careful though... wild cats contain lots of saturated fat and if not cooked properly in a sterile environment, may cause salmonella, listeria or E. coli.

Duggy747

dark crystal wrote: »

Careful though... wild cats contain lots of saturated fat and if not cooked properly in a sterile environment, may cause salmonella, listeria or E. coli.

Tasty rocks it is, then

It's amazing how we, as race, got so far without the likes of Dettol and advertising watchdogs.

foxyboxer

Couldn't give edam.

44leto

foxyboxer wrote: »

Couldn't give edam.

A very cheesy joke.

histories

Everything in moderation! It is really that simple!

As the parent you are responsible for what your child eats, what they watch, what they do on the internet, the amount of exercise they get etc. And perhaps little Timmy wouldn't look like he ate the kid sitting next to him if he wasn't getting copious amounts of rubbish shoved down his gullet!