Does your wage measure up?

Defiler Of The Coffin

Check your monthly wage against the national and global average here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356

Despite all our difficulties Ireland still has the 8th highest average wage in the world. The tiger is only in deep hibernation I tells ya!

My average wage comes in at a whopping 2981%* of the world average! Happy days!

*May not be entirely truthful

summerskin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHo2pXO_XAI

is what this thread will turn into

DirtyBollox

I call shenanigans!

44leto

Fukcen hell that's a surprise so how come I don't feel that rich.

Ghandee

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Check your monthly wage against the national and global average here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356

Despite all our difficulties Ireland still has the 8th highest average wage in the world. The tiger is only in deep hibernation I tells ya!

My average wage comes in at a whopping 2981%* of the world average! Happy days!

*May not be entirely truthful

I know what you earn a year........

sbsquarepants

That's 45 grand per month. Good money in that necrophillia.
Any jobs going, i'd ride anything!:D

Defiler Of The Coffin

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Check your monthly wage against the national and global average here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356

Despite all our difficulties Ireland still has the 8th highest average wage in the world. The tiger is only in deep hibernation I tells ya!

My average wage comes in at a whopping 2981%* of the world average! Happy days!

*May not be entirely truthful

You typed your annual wage into the monthly wage by mistake. You are 248% of the world average and I hope to fuck you don't work in a bank.

Angeles

Give or take 45k a month ehh op?
Is your first name Patrick per chance, and have you found yourself in a bit of a pickle recently with the courts?

44leto

We are on better money then the Germans, no-wonder they hate us and bail-outs.

Thank you Germany.

Defiler Of The Coffin

sbsquarepants wrote: »

That's 45 grand per month. Good money in that necrophillia.
Any jobs going, i'd ride anything!:D

Whenever I'm finished spreading my bounty among the denizens of the graveyards I do look for gold teeth, bracelets, jewellery and like. One time I even found a family heirloom dating back to the Norman conquests. It's keeping a rich old eccentric businessman very happy now, to the benefit of my bank account.

Aside from that though I'm a very high functioning member of society and my wage reflects that.

Defiler Of The Coffin

Sacramento wrote: »

You typed your annual wage into the monthly wage by mistake. You are 248% of the world average and I hope to fuck you don't work in a bank.

I didn't. I don't. See the *disclaimer.

Defiler Of The Coffin

Angeles wrote: »

Give or take 45k a month ehh op?
Is your first name Patrick per chance, and have you found yourself in a bit of a pickle recently with the courts?

No and no.

Defiler Of The Coffin

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

I didn't. I don't. See the *disclaimer.

Ah right, missed that, you're a sound* bloke.




*Wanker

Statistician

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

My average wage comes in at a whopping 2981%* of the world average! Happy days!

*May not be entirely truthful

I'm guessing you're a public sector worker.

wexie

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Aside from that though I'm a very high functioning member of society and my wage reflects that.

.....that's like Idi Amin saying that aside from the paranoia, the torture and the cannibalism he's really just a regular guy....

:eek:

Logical Fallacy

44leto wrote: »

We are on better money then the Germans, no-wonder they hate us and bail-outs.

Thank you Germany.

Cost of living in Germany is far lower.

Defiler Of The Coffin

Sacramento wrote: »

Ah right, missed that, you're a sound* bloke.




*Wanker

Your clever attempts at foiling the swear filter are lost on those with backgrounds set to dark. Just so you know.

Seachmall

I typed in my weekly wage and was all

The I realised and typed in my monthly wage and was like

Someday I'll be like

Captain Chaos

I'm 79%, of the national average and 159% of the world. I thought I would be further down as I hardly make ends meet as it is, have no loans, can't afford a car or to have a mortgage. But then again it's pre tax. Around 30% is taken in total stoppages in my wages.:mad:

Defiler Of The Coffin

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Your clever attempts at foiling the swear filter are lost on those with backgrounds set to dark. Just so you know.

Thanks.

Wile E. Coyote

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I'm 79%, of the national average and 159% of the world. I thought I would be further down as I hardly make ends meet as it is, have no loans, can't afford a car or to have a mortgage. But then again it's pre tax. Around 30% is taken in total stoppages in my wages.:mad:

Either payroll have f***ed up or ar least 14% of your 'stoppages' are optional.

Still can't figure out how you can't afford a car or make ends meet on that wage if you've no loans or mortgage.

Wile E. Coyote

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Either payroll have f***ed up or ar least 14% of your 'stoppages' are optional.

Still can't figure out how you can't afford a car or make ends meet on that wage if you've no loans or mortgage.

He could have a rake of kids?

jester77

44leto wrote: »

We are on better money then the Germans, no-wonder they hate us and bail-outs.

Thank you Germany.

There's no minimum wage in Germany for most sectors & cost of living would be a lot lower outside of the main cities.

44leto

jester77 wrote: »

There's no minimum wage in Germany for most sectors & cost of living would be a lot lower outside of the main cities.

Cost of living is also cheaper here outside Dublin. We are also in comparison lowly taxed and we don't pay for our water. So I still think we are a little better off then the Germans.

Amirani

Average wage doesn't really tell you much. The US for example has a higher average wage, largely contributed to by big CEOs and company owners earning millions and sometimes billions per year. There's also quite a large proportion of people below the poverty line.

Ireland's wage distribution on the other hand would have a lot less variance, with less extremes distorting the average figure. Still, the median is probably a more useful statistical tool to look at in this instance. You'd also want to compare the wage levels against the cost of living in the country to get a true picture of the quality of life.

firedancer

I do data entry, shipping, receiving, soldering, manage the product I work on myself (little or no input from manager), organise work for one colleague, and I get paid the same as the cleaner in our company!!
Plus I haven't had a payrise in two and a half years, company blaming the downturn eventho' there has been considerable growth within same company. I'm 52% of the national average.

I'm p***** off

44leto

NiallSparky wrote: »

Average wage doesn't really tell you much. The US for example has a higher average wage, largely contributed to by big CEOs and company owners earning millions and sometimes billions per year. There's also quite a large proportion of people below the poverty line.

Ireland's wage distribution on the other hand would have a lot less variance, with less extremes distorting the average figure. Still, the median is probably a more useful statistical tool to look at in this instance. You'd also want to compare the wage levels against the cost of living in the country to get a true picture of the quality of life.

I remember reading car ownership is one indicators Ireland's car ownership is high. Another one you could look at is the cost of bigmac Ireland's is also quite high.

MonkieSocks

Mine:(
Your wage is 46% of the Ireland average and 93% of the world average.

Cool Mo D

jester77 wrote: »

There's no minimum wage in Germany for most sectors & cost of living would be a lot lower outside of the main cities.

The comparison takes relative purchasing power into account.

Sykk

Funny looking at that. I'm just about over the average. Yet people who are much higher payed than me seem to struggle a lot more. I guess it's from the loans they took out to buy their shoebox apartments... :eek:

2ndcoming

Statistician wrote: »

I'm guessing you're a public sector worker.

Probably a nurse, they've been robbing the country for years.

CrazyRabbit

But 'wages' in this case doesn't cover money gained from illegal means. So the average for Ireland is actually much higher when you include the correct total income for politicians & bankers.

haminka

This whole discussion and the calculator is a bloody joke because it doesn't include :

1. taxes
2. return for your invested taxes
3. additional payments you need to have

One story to consider : when I was pregnant, the first appointment + scan I got was for when I would be in the 5th month. Fortunately, when in my 12 weeks, me and my husband were visiting Germany. None of us is insured there. But we called a recommended gynaecologist, got an appointment, went there, got a complete examination and a scan including pictures. Without any insurance it cost us 80 Euro!!! Now how much would it cost over here? A good quality childcare over there is 350 Euro per month, parents get tax relieves because they have kids, public health service is much better. And don't get me started on value for money for school system and public transport.
So while we maybe having a relatively high brutto salaries, count in everything this state is robbing us of in terms of taxes, extra payments you need to get a standard care and then we can discuss how great living in Ireland is.

44leto

haminka wrote: »

This whole discussion and the calculator is a bloody joke because it doesn't include :

1. taxes
2. return for your invested taxes
3. additional payments you need to have

One story to consider : when I was pregnant, the first appointment + scan I got was for when I would be in the 5th month. Fortunately, when in my 12 weeks, me and my husband were visiting Germany. None of us is insured there. But we called a recommended gynaecologist, got an appointment, went there, got a complete examination and a scan including pictures. Without any insurance it cost us 80 Euro!!! Now how much would it cost over here? A good quality childcare over there is 350 Euro per month, parents get tax relieves because they have kids, public health service is much better. And don't get me started on value for money for school system and public transport.
So while we maybe having a relatively high brutto salaries, count in everything this state is robbing us of in terms of taxes, extra payments you need to get a standard care and then we can discuss how great living in Ireland is.

That is unbelievable, to see my quack it cost me 50 euro for about 10 to 15 minutes of his time. But the irish medical profession (all of them) are generally world classed greedy bastards.

Adyx

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Mine:(
Your wage is 46% of the Ireland average and 93% of the world average.

8% of the Irish average, 17% of the world average. I win!

siobhanoh

I earn 103% of the national average and I only started my 'real job' 2 months ago.

So the lesson is... study hard, go to college, get a degree, go abroad for a few months, come home, work in a nightclub for a few months, go abroad for a few more months and then walk into a good job!

Icepick

World average wage isn't $1,480, The table only contains 72 countries and does not contain the poorest ones.
Also, average salary should not be used for anything as most people earn less. Median should be used instead.

firedancer

haminka wrote: »

This whole discussion and the calculator is a bloody joke because it doesn't include :

1. taxes
2. return for your invested taxes
3. additional payments you need to have

One story to consider : when I was pregnant, the first appointment + scan I got was for when I would be in the 5th month. Fortunately, when in my 12 weeks, me and my husband were visiting Germany. None of us is insured there. But we called a recommended gynaecologist, got an appointment, went there, got a complete examination and a scan including pictures. Without any insurance it cost us 80 Euro!!! Now how much would it cost over here? A good quality childcare over there is 350 Euro per month, parents get tax relieves because they have kids, public health service is much better. And don't get me started on value for money for school system and public transport.
So while we maybe having a relatively high brutto salaries, count in everything this state is robbing us of in terms of taxes, extra payments you need to get a standard care and then we can discuss how great living in Ireland is.

Why aren't you living in Germany then, just curious

Defiler Of The Coffin

haminka wrote: »

This whole discussion and the calculator is a bloody joke because it doesn't include :

1. taxes
2. return for your invested taxes
3. additional payments you need to have

One story to consider : when I was pregnant, the first appointment + scan I got was for when I would be in the 5th month. Fortunately, when in my 12 weeks, me and my husband were visiting Germany. None of us is insured there. But we called a recommended gynaecologist, got an appointment, went there, got a complete examination and a scan including pictures. Without any insurance it cost us 80 Euro!!! Now how much would it cost over here? A good quality childcare over there is 350 Euro per month, parents get tax relieves because they have kids, public health service is much better. And don't get me started on value for money for school system and public transport.
So while we maybe having a relatively high brutto salaries, count in everything this state is robbing us of in terms of taxes, extra payments you need to get a standard care and then we can discuss how great living in Ireland is.

But what is Ireland's level of taxation compared to Germany's? I'd wager that Ireland's is lower.

haminka

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

But what is Ireland's level of taxation compared to Germany's? I'd wager that Ireland's is lower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Income_tax_rate_in_2010

The_Kew_Tour

I say Bill Gates gets lot of kicks with totting his amount in:pac:

Defiler Of The Coffin

haminka wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Income_tax_rate_in_2010

Fair enough, I'm finding it difficult to get a good comparison between tax levels for Ireland and Germany though. Did come across this article which includes the following:

As recently as 2007, TheNewEditor.com reported that Germans were emigrating at their highest rate since the 1940′s, resulting in a “brain drain” on the nation’s brightest and most motivated people. As a result of “high taxes and bureaucracy, thousands of Germans have upped sticks for Austria and Switzerland, or emigrated to the United States”

It does appear Germany has high taxes to pay for a somewhat generous social welfare system.

TPD

Higher than world average, lower than Irish average.

Zebra3

44leto wrote: »

We are on better money then the Germans, no-wonder they hate us and bail-outs.

Thank you Germany.

Except Germany didn't bail us out.

We have bailed out their banks. :mad:

Robdude

haminka wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Income_tax_rate_in_2010

I no longer trust Wikipedia, colorful charts, or any simplification on taxes since I saw this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world

I don't know what they were smoking when they came up with that, but it's awfully misleading (I'd call it flat out wrong) after having lived and worked in Ireland and the United States.