Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

mikom

black francis wrote: »

haven't been banned from the thread yet




......unlike certain other posters.

Yeah alistar

golden lane

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe his family would be happy that he put food on their table rather than on some German bondholder's table. People have gone to prison in the past for honourable purposes.

not paying money back that is owed,,,,,is that honourable ?????

tayto lover

golden lane wrote: »

not paying money back that is owed,,,,,is that honourable ?????

It is when compared to making him pay someone else's debts.

gerryo777

golden lane wrote: »

not paying money back that is owed,,,,,is that honourable ?????

If enda & co started honouring and respecting the people of Ireland, putting the Irish people before unsecured bondholders, it would suit them better!

Wild Bill

black francis wrote: »

I bow to your superior knowledge

Rightly so.

Let's imagine for a minute you're right though, and the whole EU collapses.

OK. Let's imagine I actually said that - even though I didn't :rolleyes:

The spending cuts and tax rises which would be required to balance the books would make the Household Charge look like the Teddy Bear's Picnic.

Half true!

Never mind Bill, you've probably got your little survivalist compound up the mountains somewhere, with enough guns and canned goods to see you through, eh?

So, you "reasoning" is reduced to this!

Or are you **** off, while sitting in the comfort of your little first world bubble, posting radical-chic bollox on forums?

Funny (not) but I got banned by a Dr Bolliko for a (rather less offensive) personal attack than that. :mad:

dr.bollocko

black francis wrote: »

haven't been banned from the thread yet




......unlike certain other posters.

Mod: Black Francis and Gerry077 banned.
So that streak is over.

Wild Bill wrote: »

Funny (not) but I got banned by a Dr Bolliko for a (rather less offensive) personal attack than that. :mad:

You spelt my name wrong. You get the reasons why I banned you wrong. This doesn't say much for your credibility going forward.

Wild Bill

dr.bollocko wrote: »

You spelt my name wrong. You get the reasons why I banned you wrong. This doesn't say much for your credibility going forward.

I doubt that spelling your "name" incorrectly says anything about my credibility. Didn't you have a sticky about spelling (and grammar) Nazis?

On the other issue we must disagree. I'll say no more lest the "back seat Mod" rule is invoked

tayto lover

I see there are 1,200 prison places being created for the non-payers.
They would prefer to release armed robbers who were sentenced to up to 8 years to try and make us pay up.
I'm still not scared.

mikom

tayto lover wrote: »

I see there are 1,200 prison places being created for the non-payers.

Larry Murphy paid his...... so he's ok.
Little old Missus O'Reilly down the road may have to go to prison though.
Great little country isn't it.

dvpower

tayto lover wrote: »

I see there are 1,200 prison places being created for the non-payers.

What the hell are you on. about?

tayto lover

dvpower wrote: »

What the hell are you on. about?

Just potboiling. It's getting too quiet for me in here.

dvpower

tayto lover wrote: »

Just potboiling. It's getting too quiet for me in here.

Something a bit more subtle next time. Hogan hasn't paid his or the cost of collection is more than the amount raised. Something like that.


Edit: You could quote this post out of context if it would help.

tayto lover

dvpower wrote: »

Something a bit more subtle next time. Hogan hasn't paid his or the cost of collection is more than the amount raised. Something like that.


Edit: You could quote this post out of context if it would help.

What about "Release Barabbas and jail the Household Tax renegers" ?

dvpower

tayto lover wrote: »

What about "Release Barabbas and jail the Household Tax renegers" ?

Meh. Needs a bit more work.

tayto lover

I am disgusted by the threats now being used to get us to vote "Yes" in the Referendum. This is just another scandalous tactic being used by Noonan and F.G. who are becoming the dirtiest party imaginable.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0501/referendum-vote-will-impact-budget-noonan.html

I have now decided to vote "No" because of this kind of tactic.

dvpower

tayto lover wrote: »

I have now decided to vote "No" because of this kind of tactic.

Were you previously going to vote "Yes"? :eek:

tayto lover

dvpower wrote: »

Were you previously going to vote "Yes"? :eek:

Was undecided. Mulling.

dvpower

Interesting chart posted in Irish Economy showing a correlation between counties with a low compliance level with the HHC and recipients of social transfers.

Seems that the very people who refuse to pay their taxes are the people who spend more of them.

thebaz

tayto lover wrote: »

I am disgusted by the threats now being used to get us to vote "Yes" in the Referendum. This is just another scandalous tactic being used by Noonan and F.G. who are becoming the dirtiest party imaginable.

dirtier than Brian Cowen and Bertie - that would take some doing

the feckin mess was created on Berties and Cowens watch - their the real scumbags IMO

Hijpo

People dont want them being able to access extra "emergency" funding they want them to sort out the spending now, which they are not doing.

Cut all the dead weight pensions, tax breaks for politicians, wage increases to senior civil servants and any other needless costs.

Its like burning money, then borrowing more to keep the fire lighting.

tayto lover

thebaz wrote: »

dirtier than Brian Cowen and Bertie - that would take some doing

the feckin mess was created on Berties and Cowens watch - their the real scumbags IMO

I agree but F.G. and Labour are also getting there and fast.
Scare tactics often get peoples backs up and could backfire on them.

Wild Bill

It's the same Baldy Noonan who said two months ago that talk of Ireland needing a second bailout was "ludicrous" who now says vote "yes" 'cos we'll need one!

You couldn't make this stuff.

FF in their darkest hours were never as cynical and incompetent and contemptuous of democracy as this shower. :mad:

tayto lover

Wild Bill wrote: »

It's the same Baldy Noonan who said two months ago that talk of Ireland needing a second bailout was "ludicrous" who now says vote "yes" 'cos we'll need one!

You couldn't make this stuff.

FF in their darkest hours were never as cynical and incompetent and contemptuous of democracy as this shower. :mad:

The new French P.M. will sort it all out for us.

hondasam

tayto lover wrote: »

The new French P.M. will sort it all out for us.

Should be interesting to see what he says.

Izzy Skint

tayto lover wrote: »

I am disgusted by the threats now being used to get us to vote "Yes" in the Referendum. This is just another scandalous tactic being used by Noonan and F.G. who are becoming the dirtiest party imaginable.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0501/referendum-vote-will-impact-budget-noonan.html

I have now decided to vote "No" because of this kind of tactic.

Me too, disgusted at the threats "our" politicians are coming out with...who the f*ck do they think they are???...WE PAY THEIR WAGES AND HUGE PENSIONS!!....THEY WORK FOR US!!....there is an incredible amount of anger out there and our useless government are oblivious to this or else they just couldn't care less....for the past 3 years I have been saying the gov. needed to implement massive spending cuts and do it asap.... however, I now believe it is too late to save this country regardless of what those useless f*ckers in the dail do now.....very interesting times ahead...gl all

hondasam

hondasam wrote: »

Should be interesting to see what he says.

Very much so, with yet another (Austerity) leader replaced in the EU, the message that austerity isn't popular must be getting through to the politicians. I was looking at a video from an economist for the Financial times who claimed that the only "solution" to the current Eurozone problems would be for countries like Germang & Holland to "depress" their economies so they fall back to the same levels as the other countries as growth is impossible.

I don't think that any of this will have much of an effect on the household charge though.

dvpower

Deleted User wrote: »

Very much so, with yet another (Austerity) leader replaced in the EU, the message that austerity isn't popular must be getting through to the politicians.

Austerity isnt popular you say? We should vote for more popular policies - that's worked for us in the past.:eek:

dvpower

tayto lover wrote: »

The new French P.M. will sort it all out for us.

:pac:

dvpower

dvpower wrote: »

Austerity isnt popular you say? We should vote for more popular policies - that's worked for us in the past.:eek:

It's more to do with rejecting politicians who put the 1% before the 99% in terms of sharing the pain.

Just like when the the cash was flowing as well of course.

Bruthal

dvpower wrote: »

Interesting chart posted in Irish Economy showing a correlation between counties with a low compliance level with the HHC and recipients of social transfers.

So if one county had 100% employment, and another had 40% employment, you would find it interesting that the full employment one is more likely to pay newly introduced taxes, with no allowances made for ability to pay?

Seems that the very people who refuse to pay their taxes are the people who spend more of them.

Or that cant afford newly introduced taxes as easily as those that cant wait to see this new tax increased. Its all so equally easy for everyone to pay, is`t it.