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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*
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There's a handy list of golf clubs for us now
Here's a list of parks/gardens and walkways.
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CFsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dublin.ie%2Fdisp_list.aspx%3Fcatid%3D68&ei=giMLUMmGFYiJhQf4-IGDCg&usg=AFQjCNEWJb8yQvts-nf3XqkZKrqYxpTdAw&sig2=4ACsbCFYFL7hyxMh2ZvgYQ
A new game for us all, lets see how many lists we can put up here.0 -
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You're getting a service for your property tax too - continued local authority service. You're already paying towards local authority services regardless - but, just as with motor tax - it's an additional revenue stream that's required to ensure there's enough to cover the overhead. We've a shortfall of tax revenue at the moment - despite cutting public expenditure and bumping up other taxes - the only question therefore is where to tax and where to cut.
you said "We've a shortfall of tax revenue at the moment ...WRONG ALASTAIR !!!!!!!!!
what we actually have is an excess in spending......do you understand the difference ?.....how about if i put it like this... "we are spending more than we collect in taxes"....now do you understand the difference...
This is a spending issue, not a tax revenue issue.
Perhaps we should start with an ANTI - BENCHMARKING campaign ?????
MASSIVE CUTS IN GOVERNMENT SPENDING ARE NEEDED NOW !!!!!......there is no other way
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ALASTAIR, Lugha, DV, DX et al.....HAVE A READ OF THIS....
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2011/0722/1224301110527.html
take off your blinkers and comment on that article...I would love to hear what you have to say
:D:D
These are the reasons why we have a massive deficit, and why the government wants us to pay a property tax :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:.....I like these quotes best...
"This State’s fiscal history over the past decade has been eventful. In the 2000-08 period, there was a massive and unprecedented increase in spending."
"In 2008 the Irish State spent €77 billion. This was 144 per cent up on 2000 and exceeded the EU aggregate 41 per cent increase by a factor of 3.5."
"In the current fraught European political context it may also be worth noting that Irish public spending grew by more than eight times the rate of the country with the smallest increase over the period - Germany."
"In the 2000-08 period, public spending growth in Ireland was the fourth highest among the 27 members of the EU. Two of the three countries registering higher growth – Romania and Latvia – have, like Ireland, been bailed out. The third, Estonia, suffered a depression- sized crash, but mananged to struggle through unaided, in part by cutting spending more drastically than Ireland has done to date."
"Despite the warning lights that flashed ever more urgently as the boom reached its peak, the previous government not only continued to allow expenditure to match economic growth, it ramped up spending even more rapidly than the rate at which the credit- fuelled economy was expanding"
"By the first half of 2008 the economy was already in full-blown recession. Despite this, expenditure growth remained in double digits for full-year 2008, with the government only waking up to the scale of the crisis in the second half of that year."
"spending on social welfare grew more rapidly than any of the three other major spending items, tripling over a decade."
"If good can come from the current crisis, it will be the instituting of a more rigorous and thoughtful approach to the use of taxpayers’ money to replace the if-I-have-it-I’ll-spend-it idiocy of boom-era administrations."
"Politicians almost always slash investment spending more than other areas of spending when they run into budgetary problems. This is so because it is politically easier to stop building roads than to cut public pay and welfare."
Not only do measures like the hhc / property tax brigade not solve the deficit problem, they actually f*ck the country up even more, they do not address the root of the problem, they will only prolong the pain of the Irish people.
People of Ireland, your country needs YOU, do your civic duty....DON'T PAY THE HHC !
Time for the pro tax brigade to face up to reality....THIS IS NOT A TAX ISSUE , IT IS A SPENDING ISSUE !!....0 -
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Besides our politicians lumping of gambling debts on to the Irish people, and then their very noble commitment to "pay back every single cent", I am convinced that our useless politicians have sold out the Irish people in yet another way !
I am convinced, that the during their dirty secret little meetings with the IMF, the govt. diluted down the IMF demands for cuts in public spending, the govt. then compensated with commitments to introduce higher taxes, property and water charges etc....
I can't believe for one second that the IMF, after looking at all the numbers ie. our spending versus tax revenue, our mortgage debt levels, our personal debt levels etc., agreed to such minimal cuts in public spending.
I remember quotes from German officials along the lines of "we are bailing them out, and they are still paying themselves more than us"....think about it...
It all points to our govt. bargaining and offering more tax raising measures to lessen spending cuts.... yes, the govt. gave a commitment to the IMF to introduce a property tax, but what they are not telling us is that it was THEIR idea !!!
where is my proof ?.....where is the proof that I am wrong?
I do not believe one word from the government, they are playing us for fools....well some of us at least...not me though... as I am not paying the hhc ! 0 -
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Izzy Skint wrote: »where is my proof ?.....where is the proof that I am wrong?
I do not believe one word from the government, they are playing us for fools....well some of us at least...not me though... as I am not paying the hhc !
Quality paranoid rant there. One request - the crazy-man formatting of most of your posts just highlights the lack of any substance to your position - but it's also ugly as sin. Could you tone it down for the sake of the visual environment?Izzy Skint wrote: »how about if i put it like this... "we are spending more than we collect in taxes"
That's not a shortfall in tax revenue? kaay.0 -
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tayto lover wrote: »Still waiting .... because our crowd haven't.
100 local authority courses in the country - and none near you? That's rather unfortunate, and implausible.0 -
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Izzy Skint wrote: »where is my proof ?.....where is the proof that I am wrong?
I do not believe one word from the government, they are playing us for fools....well some of us at least...not me though... as I am not paying the hhc !
Quality paranoid rant there. One request - the crazy-man formatting of most of your posts just highlights the lack of any substance to your position - but it's also ugly as sin. Could you tone it down for the sake of the visual environment?Izzy Skint wrote: »how about if i put it like this... "we are spending more than we collect in taxes"
That's not a shortfall in tax revenue? kaay.
lol is that it? thats your reply?
complete deflection to valid points posed
stinks of politician0 -
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