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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*
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Alas you are not alone. There are plenty here who are completely unable to see what is blindingly obvious. And surely is it blindingly obvious that one of the obvious advantages about having a house, whether you bought it, were bequeathed one by a relative, were given the use of us free by the state or whatever, is that you benefit to the tune of what you would otherwise have to pay in rent. One wonders why you bought a home if you do not see this clear monetary advantage to having one?Absolute bullsh1te.
In fact I've never heard such a load of tripe in all my life.
The scrapings from the bottom of the barrel of bullsh1te arguments.I do not depend on nobody else and if I dont have the money to maintain it, I have to borrow the money, and pay it back on top of my mortgage, not instead of it.
It is for this reason that I think it immoral and unjust for me to have to pay a tax on my home.Yes it is immoral. This is another charge, which the govt. brought in 2009, in my opinion to add to the pot for to pay bondholders. Otherwise, why was it not brought in decades ago.
Well these are two very different reasons why taxing your home (or any house) is immoral. And both are different from the earlier one you gave (i.e. you already paid tax via stamp duty).
So the first thing I would have to say is that is your are citing three completely different arguments as THE reason why it is immoral it gives the impression that you are not to convinced yourself about the whole immoral line.
Anyway, to the two reasons above:
The first (because you pay yourself to maintain your home). Well you would pay yourself to maintain a car. So why is it not equally immoral (as opposed to unfair, which is how most would describe it) to tax this? What sets your home apart?
The second (because the tax will be used to bail out bondholders). Leaving aside the fact that only a small portion will be used in this way, could you not equally argue that every other austere measure, including the USC, the various cuts to SW and any new taxes we will be asked to pay (and we will) are equally immoral as they too will, in part, pay off banking debts? So once again, what sets your home apart?
Maybe its time you all admitted that Enda Kenny was talking through his hat a bit when he said that taxing the home was immoral! You are jumping from one flimsy and feeble argument to another. If you or anyone else really could argue that it was immoral you would present a solid, stand up, irrefutable F*** off argument. But nobody has yet made one.0 -
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Alas you are not alone. There are plenty here who are completely unable to see what is blindingly obvious. And surely is it blindingly obvious that one of the obvious advantages about having a house, whether you bought it, were bequeathed one by a relative, were given the use of us free by the state or whatever, is that you benefit to the tune of what you would otherwise have to pay in rent. One wonders why you bought a home if you do not see this clear monetary advantage to having one?
Well these are two very different reasons why taxing your home (or any house) is immoral. And both are different from the earlier one you gave (i.e. you already paid tax via stamp duty).
So the first thing I would have to say is that is your are citing three completely different arguments as THE reason why it is immoral it gives the impression that you are not to convinced yourself about the whole immoral line.
Anyway, to the two reasons above:
The first (because you pay yourself to maintain your home). Well you would pay yourself to maintain a car. So why is it not equally immoral (as opposed to unfair, which is how most would describe it) to tax this? What sets your home apart?
The second (because the tax will be used to bail out bondholders). Leaving aside the fact that only a small portion will be used in this way, could you not equally argue that every other austere measure, including the USC, the various cuts to SW and any new taxes we will be asked to pay (and we will) are equally immoral as they too will, in part, pay off banking debts? So once again, what sets your home apart?
Maybe its time you all admitted that Enda Kenny was talking through his hat a bit when he said that taxing the home was immoral! You are jumping from one flimsy and feeble argument to another. If you or anyone else really could argue that it was immoral you would present a solid, stand up, irrefutable F*** off argument. But nobody has yet made one.
As I said to you before, READ MY POSTS, before you construct a reply.0 -
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