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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*
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The same could be said for the people who abide by and accept without question every single word money hungry politicians say. Sounds like a cult.The leaders of the cahwt campaign are misfit wasters, those that listen to them and follow them are well I dont even know.
:rolleyes:So when you were making reference as to what has not happened you were talking sh1te and not actually making any point
Going on those points that you stated ie: the HHC isnt scrapped therefor the campaign is a failure because that was there aim. Would you also be of the opinion that the government has also failed as they have not achieved there aim of completing there database and getting 100% compliance.Seeing as you are a member of the cahwt campaign, can you tell me how its going for you? Have you reached your goal of getting the HHC scrapped and are you still operating under the delusion that this could ever happen?
Ask the government how easy its been to collect there charges and complete there database
if they say its been easy and everyone has been compliant then i will say its going poorly. 0 -
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I wouldnt call law abiding citizens a cult now in fairness.The same could be said for the people who abide by and accept without question every single word money hungry politicians say. Sounds like a cult.:rolleyes:
Going on those points that you stated ie: the HHC isnt scrapped therefor the campaign is a failure because that was there aim. Would you also be of the opinion that the government has also failed as they have not achieved there aim of completing there database and getting 100% compliance.
The government were always going to fail on this one, I mean they are pretty incompetent and this is no secret. The level of late fees and penalties and self registration crap pretty much guaranteed it would fail. So yes the Government have failed much the same way as the cahwt.
Ask the government how easy its been to collect there charges and complete there database if they say its been easy and everyone has been compliant then i will say its going poorly.
Given that the aim of the cahwt was to get this charge scrapped I know their little campaign is a shambles and has been going poorly from day one.0 -
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The same could be said for the people who abide by and accept without question every single word money hungry politicians say. Sounds like a cult.
:rolleyes:
Going on those points that you stated ie: the HHC isnt scrapped therefor the campaign is a failure because that was there aim. Would you also be of the opinion that the government has also failed as they have not achieved there aim of completing there database and getting 100% compliance.
Ask the government how easy its been to collect there charges and complete there database if they say its been easy and everyone has been compliant then i will say its going poorly.
I had to do the very same thing as you, get posts and break them down for them, so they could understand them, a couple of times. For people that come across as being so knowledgable and educated, they are a lot of work. Reminds me of one job I worked in, it was like going in to take charge of a creche every day, and having to take a lot of work home with me, as I'd spend most of the day trying to get through to them, and I'm talking about grownups, not kids.0 -
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Ah so you have spectacularly missed the point again, Hijpo, the Govt's aim was to get 100% collection, this was never going to happen so they have failed.
The cahwt's aim was to have the HHC scrapped, this was never going to happen so they have failed.
Now I cant say it any clearer than that for you, its appalling that I have to spell it out to you as it was abundantly clear in my previous post. Now if at all possible try not miss the point this time.
I too would be lmao now if I wasnt sitting here shaking my head in utter disbelief at your ability to miss a very simple point.
Donal the only point youv been trying to make for the past two pages is how badly the CAHWT has failed, not suprising tjis is all ye have left to comment on as any other arguments the pro taxers have tried to conjure up have been doused in spectacular fashion by more campaigners in agreement with not payign this charge than pro taxers have to back them up.
You said the CAWHT is a shambles and has failed to get going from day one yet in the exact same post you say the government has failed to reach its own aims. If it was not for the information provided to the public, protests and meetings organised by the CAHWT then i believe alot more people would be paying as some people just need to know that there is someone of the same opinion who is willing to act and CAWHT shows people that they have that kind of backing.
Your very grumpy today donal, cheer up
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Donal the only point youv been trying to make for the past two pages is how badly the CAHWT has failed, not suprising tjis is all ye have left to comment on as any other arguments the pro taxers have tried to conjure up have been doused in spectacular fashion by more campaigners in agreement with not payign this charge than pro taxers have to back them up.
You said the CAWHT is a shambles and has failed to get going from day one yet in the exact same post you say the government has failed to reach its own aims. If it was not for the information provided to the public, protests and meetings organised by the CAHWT then i believe alot more people would be paying as some people just need to know that there is someone of the same opinion who is willing to act and CAWHT shows people that they have that kind of backing.
Your very grumpy today donal, cheer up
I am not at all grumpy I have been breaking my hole laughing at some of the posts here today.
The cahwt is a shambles and always has been, they couldnt organise a p1ss up in a brewery. They have 100% completely failed on this one and I expect the water charges to go the same way thats if anyone at all is even bothered listening to them about that considering how unbelievable ineffective their campaign has been.
Everyone I know that hasnt paid has nothing to do with the cahwt and never has they say they have not paid because they chose not to, and thier decision was in no way influenced by the cahwt they wouldnt even know where they are based or who is actually involved with it. I just checked their website for upcoming events in my area and surprise surprise there were none listed.
The only time I have seen them is once on the road here there was a jeep driving around plastered in anti HHC stickers, with a loud speaker on top rambling on about some nonsense that people were laughing at. I since learned the lad driving it around is an absolute nut case, and is going around claiming to be acting on behalf of Mick Wallace, and apparently Mick even has said he has nothing whatsoever to do with him which says it all really.0 -
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