Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

paddy147

Can everyone not post a reply just yet,and let Alastair answer my 2 questions please??

Thanks.




So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

alastair

ROFLcopter wrote: »

And you're a government stooge, promoting the government like you are, "it's all good people, just pull down your pants, second cubicle to the left"



When the fúck are you gonna give up this fúcking nonsense that this is going to services?

This money is going into the black hole which is the banks...., which IS why people are not paying........OK!?

Not really - since it's all going to local authorities - but then you knew that already. It's all your other taxes that might end up going to the banks.

paddy147

So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

alastair

paddy147 wrote: »

Can everyone not post a reply just yet,and let Alastair answer my 2 questions please??

Thanks.




So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

You'll not get any different answer by repeating the same question - don't be lazy - read the thread.

Ghandee

alastair wrote: »

My reasons for refusing to pay the poll tax are very well baked cheers - it's now a matter of historic fact how the poll tax was unfair on criteria that simply don't apply to this property tax. If you can't comprehend the differences, that's not my problem.

This tax is indeed fair (imo) -and since no-one has articulated any good reasons why it's unfair, my opinion is unlikely to change.

But it isn't a property tax?

That's not been brought in yet?


Also, history is being written every minute of every day.


We hopefully shall see what this charge gets consigned to in the history books.
1 million people can't be wrong Alastair.

(imo)

paddy147

alastair wrote: »

You'll not get any different answer by repeating the same question - don't be lazy - read the thread.

You have yet to actualy answer my 2 questions.



So again.....



So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you not feel the poll tax was unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

gerryo777

alastair wrote: »

My reasons for refusing to pay the poll tax are very well baked cheers - it's now a matter of historic fact how the poll tax was unfair on criteria that simply don't apply to this property tax. If you can't comprehend the differences, that's not my problem.

This tax is indeed fair (imo) -and since no-one has articulated any good reasons why it's unfair, my opinion is unlikely to change.

I'll try one more time.

This tax is unfair for the following reason;

This tax is to be used to provide local services by the county councils.

Everyone uses these services.

Only people who own property have to pay this tax.

This makes this tax unfair.

Don't insult your own intelligence by not recognising this fact.

alastair

Ghandee wrote: »

But it isn't a property tax?

That's not been brought in yet?


Also, history is being written every minute of every day.


We hopefully shall see what this charge gets consigned to in the history books.
1 million people can't be wrong Alastair.

(imo)

It's a property tax - the clue is the combination of the tax being levied, and it's being applied to your property.

What 1 million people? - we've passed that point a while back.

The_Thing

hondasam wrote: »

The point is they have to get the database in order and to do this they need me to register my details. My name is on the deeds but they are with the bank until the mortgage is paid.
Please tell me they cannot access my bank account.

I have a bank account into which I can lodge money electronically, but for me to take money from that same account I must deal face to face with a cashier at one of their branches - I cannot do it electronically. I have it set up as such to minimise my risk to banking trojans, phishers, etc, - and to this list you could now add pilfering Phil and his band of thieves.

Maybe this or similar is something you and others should look into?

gerryo777

alastair wrote: »

Not really - since it's all going to local authorities - but then you knew that already. It's all your other taxes that might end up going to the banks.

It all comes from the same pot.

paddy147

So Alastair,because you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was so unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

Ghandee

gerryo777 wrote: »

I'll try one more time.

This tax is unfair for the following reason;

This tax is to be used to provide local services by the county councils.

Everyone uses these services.

Only people who own property have to pay this tax.

This makes this tax unfair.

Don't insult your own intelligence by not recognising this fact.

Top this off by 170million being cut from lc services budget this year.

We're paying for others debts.

That's not fair either.

ROFLcopter

alastair wrote: »

Not really - since it's all going to local authorities - but then you knew that already. It's all your other taxes that might end up going to the banks.

Bollocks.

alastair

ROFLcopter wrote: »

Bollocks.

I'm guessing you never made the debating team.

jay-me

Alastair I take it you have brown eyes? Yes?

hondasam

alastair wrote: »

12% - but then the stakes are rather higher for property tax. I take it you've given over on this 'confirmation' guff?

You though the poll tax was unfair right? I did also as it happens.
How much do you think I will have to pay next year for my household charge?

JoeGil

gerryo777 wrote: »

I'll try one more time.

This tax is unfair for the following reason;

This tax is to be used to provide local services by the county councils.

Everyone uses these services.

Only people who own property have to pay this tax.

This makes this tax unfair.

Don't insult your own intelligence by not recognising this fact.

Very pedantic argumentation.
Every developed country in the world has a property tax. You are in a minority of one by reasoning that way.

Ghandee

alastair wrote: »

It's a property tax - the clue is the combination of the tax being levied, and it's being applied to your property.

So why is it not being named as the household tax?

alastair wrote: »

What 1 million people? - we've passed that point a while back.

Have we really?

Even the govt don't know how many houses are liable, conflicting reports, 1.6 million, 1.8 million, 2 million.

No one can say for certain. Yet.

pegasus1

Over a thousand posts in a day....:eek:






Gives this thread a week before it self destructs!!:D

gerryo777

JoeGil wrote: »

Very pedantic argumentation.
Every developed country in the world has a property tax. You are in a minority of one by reasoning that way.

Pedantic?

Nice word, you better check it's meaning tough.

BTW, I'm in a majority of 1 million I think you'll find.

ROFLcopter

alastair wrote: »

I'm guessing you never made the debating team.

Of course I did, you're just spouting nonsense.

paddy147

So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

gerryo777

paddy147 wrote: »

So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Maybe that's why he moved back to Ireland?

paddy147

Can somebody else ask Alastair these 2 questions please.

I dont know why he wont answer my 2 questions about him not paying the poll tax,because it was unfair on him, and being a tax cheat??

So,can someone else ask him??

Thanks.

gerryo777

paddy147 wrote: »

Can somebody else ask Alastair these 2 questions please.

I dont know why he wont answer my 2 questions about him not paying the poll tax and being a tax cheat??

So,can someone else ask him??

Thanks.

If someone was accusing me of these things I think I'd be refuting them.
Silence says a lot.

alastair

Ghandee wrote: »

So why is it not being named as the household tax?




Have we really?

Even the govt don't know how many houses are liable, conflicting reports, 1.6 million, 1.8 million, 2 million.

No one can say for certain. Yet.

The census have a petty good idea though - so I'll stick with their take on things - which suggests no more than 1.7 milion liable properties - and consequently, a lower number of owners. There's really no scope for any continuing million non-payers.

Why is the USC called a charge? It doesn't really matter - it's a tax levied by the state, and one that isn't discretionary.

paddy147

alastair wrote: »

The census have a petty good idea though - so I'll stick with their take on things - which suggests no more than 1.7 milion liable properties - and consequently, a lower number of owners. There's really no scope for any continuing million non-payers.

Why is the USC called a charge? It doesn't really matter - it's a tax levied by the state, and one that isn't discretionary.

So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was so unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

gerryo777

Alastair, just answer paddy's question, will ya?

alastair

paddy147 wrote: »

So Alastair,becsuse you didnt pay the poll tax...are you a tax cheat??

Why did you feel the poll tax was so unfair on you,for you not to pay it??

I feel the ignore button is going to be part of your future. Keep it up.

Wild Bill

paddy147 wrote: »

Can somebody else ask Alastair these 2 questions please.

No point.

Al doesn't do answers. He does mindless contra-factual assertions.

Y'know, like - black is white, up is down....and so-forth. :cool: