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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #182
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Don't be bullied Sam.

    :D
    dvpower wrote: »
    And while you're at it Sam, hand over your lunch money.
    :eek:

    I'm a PS worker I cannot afford a lunch.:p


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    #183
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    They won't be chasing people for €10. If they get people to pay the €100 they will be happy enough.

    The people who have being paying by direct debit over four payments haven't paid in full yet. How could they justify fining people before those people have fully paid. Don't fall for the scare mongering. A time extension will be announced.


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    #184
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,754 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    dvpower wrote: »
    There is nothing in the Household Charge legislation that allows for automatic attachment orders, but, as I understand it, anyone prosecuted for non registration can be fined and have an attachment order made against them, for the payment of that fine, by a court, under the Fines Act 2010 (linky)

    More scaremongering only.


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    #185
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Is it?

    true figure was 1.8 million.

    Needs to be over the 800,000 mark Ali.

    The official figure is 1.65 million


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    #186
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    paddy147 wrote: »
    1.6 million or 1.8 million...sure even big Phil himself doesnt really know.He knows sweet fcuk all then.

    200,000 homes have gone missing. LOL


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    #187
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    dvpower wrote: »
    They can and do do it in the Revenue. Do you doubt this?

    The new system will allow for it to be used much more efficiently and open it up to be used on a much more widespread basis (as envisaged by the changes to the Fines Act), but this happens now, every day.

    No I don't doubt it but was not aware they could take fines from your wages.
    why the need for new legislation if it's in place all ready :confused:


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    #188
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    They won't be chasing people for €10. If they get people to pay the €100 they will be happy enough.

    The people who have being paying by direct debit over four payments haven't paid in full yet. How could they justify fining people before those people have fully paid. Don't fall for the scare mongering. A time extension will be announced.

    As is usual - incomplete payments will be returned as, eh, incomplete - from midnight the tenner is added on (not an optional extra).


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    #189
    Roverek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭Roverek


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Don't pay any attention to that post (no.9) as it's obviously created to suit an agenda and nothing to do with the thread.
    You want hide away truth.


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    #190
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    alastair wrote: »
    The official figure is 1.65 million

    Is that the total number or the total number less the ones that aren't liable?


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    #191
    thebostoncrab
    Registered Users Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.


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    #192
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    alastair wrote: »
    The official figure is 1.65 million

    The offical figure from a lying, cheating, u-turning Govt?


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    #193
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    black francis wrote: »
    Is that the total number or the total number less the ones that aren't liable?

    That includes exempt and waiver households.


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    #194
    lugha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    They won't be chasing people for €10. If they get people to pay the €100 they will be happy enough.

    The people who have being paying by direct debit over four payments haven't paid in full yet. How could they justify fining people before those people have fully paid. Don't fall for the scare mongering. A time extension will be announced.
    It might be, but it would hardly be justified. There isn't a very good reason for someone who had intended to pay but couldn't be arsed doing it on time!

    There is I suppose an unknown number who probably didn't feel to strong one way or the other about this charge and were going to pay but were waiting to see how things panned out. They might take the chance to save a couple of quid.


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    #195
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.


    And then Im a law breaker/criminal too.


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    #196
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.

    i would say that there will be at least 1 million by the end of next week with delayed post and late payers.


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    #197
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    As is usual - incomplete payments will be returned as, eh, incomplete - from midnight the tenner is added on (not an optional extra).

    So your owed €110 and someone posts you €100 you return the cheque. Are you sure your working the private sector? LOL


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    #198
    emo72
    Registered Users Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭emo72


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.

    how do you know how busy the website is? are you working in there?


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    #199
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.

    Source?


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    #200
    Anyone
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Will clear the 50% by tonight, and given that there will be loads of postal payments delivered on monday, I'd imagine the initial payers will be around 60%.

    With this and the low turnout for the protest(arpx 5,000), it would appear that a majority(even grudgingly) have agreed to pay.


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    #201
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    alastair wrote: »
    The official figure is 1.65 million


    You know more than Phil Hogan then.


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    #202
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    paddy147 wrote: »
    And then Im a law breaker/criminal too.

    Paddy, I hope they throw away the key.....:D


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    #203
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    MagicSean wrote: »
    i would say that there will be at least 1 million by the end of next week with delayed post and late payers.

    I would say that Ireland will invade Germany by the end of the week.

    Doesnt mean sh1t though, sorry to be blunt.


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    #204
    steve9859
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    alastair wrote: »
    As is usual - incomplete payments will be returned as, eh, incomplete - from midnight the tenner is added on (not an optional extra).

    hmmmm, that's going to work well. I pay €100 in 6 months time, and the government are faced with spending more than a tenner chasing up my tenner. That's a good system, eh.....


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    #205
    lugha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Source?
    You know the source. Those lying, cheating, etc etc.

    (You should get a hillbilly to write a song for you. :pac:)


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    #206
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    There will be alot of people bidding their time to see how many paid. Don't forget alot of people got burned on the water charge. And they never got a refund.
    lugha wrote: »
    It might be, but it would hardly be justified. There isn't a very good reason for someone who had intended to pay but couldn't be arsed doing it on time!

    There is I suppose an unknown number who probably didn't feel to strong one way or the other about this charge and were going to pay but were waiting to see how things panned out. They might take the chance to save a couple of quid.


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    #207
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ghandee wrote: »
    The offical figure from a lying, cheating, u-turning Govt?

    Whatever - we've passed the magic million mark. Time to let go of the CAPITALISATION.


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    #208
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    alastair wrote: »
    That includes exempt and waiver households.

    In that case, compliance rates for those who are liable look like it's over 55%!


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    #209
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Paddy, I hope they throw away the key.....:D


    Maximum Security or Walk in Walk out?:;)

    3 free meals a day,free studies/education and a degree too.

    Sweet.

    Wonder how much that will cost me???:D


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    #210
    thebostoncrab
    Registered Users Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    Ghandee wrote: »
    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    The website is the buisiest tonight it has ever been, there are huge numbers registering for the charge. Before midnight you're looking at almost 800,000 at this rate.

    And there will be no extension period. Come midnight it's a fine for late pay, simple as.

    Source?

    Buddy of mine works there, decided to ask how it's going and that's what I got back.

    I'm a CSO head so I'm clean :p


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    #211
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    steve9859 wrote: »
    hmmmm, that's going to work well. I pay €100 in 6 months time, and the government are faced with spending more than a tenner chasing up my tenner. That's a good system, eh.....

    You could always just pay what you owe?


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