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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #2402
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    He doesn't pay any, he only drives classics..

    I know. Motor tax is not very equitable anyway, one person driving half a km to the shop once a week pays the same motor tax as a 1000 km a week driver, so id be surprised he would pay it anyway.


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    #2403
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    I know. Motor tax is not very equitable anyway, so id be surprised he would pay it anyway.

    Do you think this sounds like someone trying to avoid taxes?


    alastair
    Registered User


    Join Date: May 2001
    Location: dublin
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    Newly imported small van - DOE/NCT loophole
    I've just brought in a Nissan S-Cargo from the UK and will be VRT'ing it once the V5 arrives from Swansea.

    It's a category B commercial as far as the VRT are concerned, below the 2 cubic metres cutoff for category C, but factory built without rear seatbelt posts, and, in this case rear porthole windows. 1500 engine.



    Now, I'm curious about where to proceed from there. There's an advantage to taxing it privately, thus avoiding DOE testing, and because it's a van, it doesn't need to do the NCT either. I've read that previous S-Cargo imports fell into this loophole (along with a few small car-derived vans), and obviously the facility to avoid NCT tests would be a welcome one.

    Can anyone who's been through these hoops let me know how they went about ensuring they fell between the two camps?

    cheers.


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    #2404
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Do you think this sounds like someone trying to avoid taxes?


    alastair
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    Join Date: May 2001
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    *******


    Do you really think its appropriate to be posting someones commercial business for use as some possible smear?


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    #2405
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Do you think this sounds like someone trying to avoid taxes?


    alastair
    Registered User


    Join Date: May 2001
    Location: dublin
    Posts: 4,120
    Adverts | Friends
    Newly imported small van - DOE/NCT loophole
    I've just brought in a Nissan S-Cargo from the UK and will be VRT'ing it once the V5 arrives from Swansea.

    It's a category B commercial as far as the VRT are concerned, below the 2 cubic metres cutoff for category C, but factory built without rear seatbelt posts, and, in this case rear porthole windows. 1500 engine.



    Now, I'm curious about where to proceed from there. There's an advantage to taxing it privately, thus avoiding DOE testing, and because it's a van, it doesn't need to do the NCT either. I've read that previous S-Cargo imports fell into this loophole (along with a few small car-derived vans), and obviously the facility to avoid NCT tests would be a welcome one.

    Can anyone who's been through these hoops let me know how they went about ensuring they fell between the two camps?

    cheers.

    Some buachaill alright.


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    #2406
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you really think its appropriate to be posting someones commercial business from an other website for use as some possible smear?

    Its not from another website.


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    #2407
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you really think its appropriate to be posting someones commercial business from an other website for use as some possible smear?

    From this website.
    Just pointing out the hypocrisy!


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    #2408
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Its not from another website.
    Do you think its appropriate to be trying to smear an individual like this?


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    #2409
    howamidifferent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you really think its appropriate to be posting someones commercial business for use as some possible smear?

    If its to show the two faces of the poster then its valid!
    Has all the right makings of a politician...


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    #2410
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you think its appropriate to be trying to smear an individual like this?

    Do you think it's appropriate for him to call us tax evaders when he does the same thing himself?


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    #2411
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Go on dv, report me to dr.bolloko.
    I could do with a break.


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    #2412
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Do you think it's appropriate for him to call us tax evaders when he does the same thing himself?
    If you haven't paid the HHC and you are liable then you are a tax evader. That is a simple fact that can stand on its own.


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    #2413
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you think its appropriate to be trying to smear an individual like this?

    Did he (alistair) or did he not post the question?

    Even if he did tax avoidance is not illegal.
    Tax evasion is illegal.

    Fair play to him,he probably thinks that the NCT or DOE tests are unfair and hence shouldn't be paid.


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    #2414
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    If you haven't paid the HHC and you are liable then you are a tax evader. That is a simple fact that can stand on its own.

    Do you not want to answer the question I asked you? Post 2410


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    #2415
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »
    Do you think its appropriate to be trying to smear an individual like this?

    In actual fact, i wouldnt try to smear him, or like to see him banned etc. But i think he is fair game for posts he has previously posted on this site, to do with avoiding taxes. If he did nothing wrong, which he probably didnt in legal terms, where is the smearing?


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    #2416
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Go on dv, report me to dr.bolloko.
    I could do with a break.
    Not my style gerry.
    It takes a special kind of individual to trawl through 3 years of posts to try and find any little kernel to use to try and smear someone. Well done you.


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    #2417
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    In actual fact, i wouldnt try to smear him, or like to see him banned etc. But i think he is fair game for posts he has previously posted on this site, to do with avoiding taxes. If he did nothing wrong, which he probably didnt in legal terms, where is the smearing?

    If it's a smear then he did it himself.
    I only re-posted something he put out there.


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    #2418
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Not my style gerry.
    It takes a special kind of individual to trawl through 3 years of posts to try and find any little kernel to use to try and smear someone. Well done you.

    I don't know, that little kernel and his record on the poll tax says a lot about the chap.


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    #2419
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    If he did nothing wrong, which he probably didnt in legal terms, where is the smearing?

    You clearly don't understand what the term 'smear' means.


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    #2420
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    If it's a smear then he did it himself.
    I only re-posted something he put out there.

    I know, thats why i say its fair game. I think we all have to accept stuff we post is fair game to be brought up.


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    #2421
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    I don't know, that little kernel and his record on the poll tax says a lot about the chap.
    Attack the poster, not the post. That's how you work it.


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    #2422
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    You clearly don't understand what the term 'smear' means.

    Calling people tax evaders on a public forum is fairly bad too. No?


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    #2423
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Calling people tax evaders on a public forum is fairly bad too. No?
    Are you a tax evader?


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    #2424
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »
    You clearly don't understand what the term 'smear' means.

    Now now, dont start to sound like him as well now with that rubbish.


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    #2425
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Are you a tax evader?

    Is alastair?


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    #2426
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Is alastair?
    How is that relevant? You complained at me labeling people who are evading the HHC as tax evaders, and I'm asking if you are currently are a tax evader. What does some other poster have to do with that?


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    #2427
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Go on dv, report me to dr.bolloko.
    I could do with a break.

    Maybe alastair will. Alastair is an anagram of rat alias:D


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    #2428
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    black francis wrote: »
    Billy's gone a good few posts now without mentioning the Nazis.

    He deserves all our support as he closes in on double figures.

    We're all rooting for you Bill, you can do it!

    Apologies.

    The contention by supporters of the current Regime is that because the current Regime was "democratically elected" that therefore it's edicts have democratic legitimacy.

    I cite the Nazis as proof that such an argument is manifestly wrong.

    Witless insults won't change that reality :cool:


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    #2429
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    dvpower wrote: »
    Attack the poster, not the post. That's how you work it.

    Attempting irony DV?

    Don't - If you don't get it, it can't be explained. :rolleyes:


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    #2430
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    How is that relevant? You complained at me labeling people who are evading the HHC as tax evaders, and I'm asking if you are currently are a tax evader. What does some other poster have to do with that?

    I see myself as a protester, not a tax evader.

    I pay every other tax I'm due to pay in this country except this one.

    Do you not think calling someone on here a tax evader is a smear?

    An answer would do, it's a simple question. Don't come back with 3 more questions. A straight answer will suffice.


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    #2431
    donalg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    Unbelievable that this thread is still going strong same people arguing all the time. Are ye on here 24/7 talking about the household charge surely you got better things to be doing especially over the long weekend!


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