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Do you ever admit you're wrong on Boards?

  • 31-03-2012 7:22pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭


    Does everyone on Boards insist on being persistent with their point 100%, or do any of you EVER admit that you might (hell forbid) be wrong? Or that the person you're arguing with might have a point?

    And if not, why are people so afraid of admitting they might have got it wrong? Do you not think you'd be respected more rather than being an arrogant **** ?

    It's not just on Boards, it's basically most of the internet. People who never admit they're wrong are idiots.


    I wonder what the thanks-whoring first reply will be.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    whirlpool wrote: »


    I wonder what the thanks-whoring first reply will be.

    No one will want to reply now.
    I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Oh yeah, I remember arguing with spongbob about some traffic minutae, always a mistake, and it turned out he was right and I was wro.. wrr... not right. Cheerfully admitted it then rubbed his face in the fact that my car was bigger than his, cos that's how we roll on the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    No, because I'm never wrong....now shut up :pac:

    Generally though, ya I can admit when I'm wrong, but I'm doggedly persistent in my arguments all the same (which isn't bad, I don't persist with false arguments).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    hondasam wrote: »
    No one will want to reply now.

    Only if they're incapable of making a non-thanks-whoring post. Everyone knows what those posts look like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    whirlpool wrote: »
    I wonder what the thanks-whoring first reply will be.
    Is that really necessary?

    Yes I do. Sometimes though, people can mistake not backing down when in an argument with someone who can barely support their argument, as refusing to admit being wrong.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Dudess wrote: »
    Is that really necessary?

    Well, I genuinely wondered it. And wanted it to be heard. So... yes? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    All the time, but that word is not in my vocabulary wroooonngggg or something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i did once but i was mistaken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    whirlpool wrote: »
    Only if they're incapable of making a non-thanks-whoring post. Everyone knows what those posts look like.

    This ''Thanks'' business in AH's is getting really annoying,If you want to thank a post go ahead and do it and never mind what everyone else is doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Yep. Have stood down on a few arguments and felt totally out of my depth on others so just faded out of them - like this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    whirlpool wrote: »
    Well, I genuinely wondered it. And wanted it to be heard. So... yes? :confused:
    Your snide "I wonder what the first thanks-whoring post will be"?

    "Thanks-whoring" is largely in the head I reckon...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    hondasam wrote: »
    This ''Thanks'' business in AH's is getting really annoying,If you want to thank a post go ahead and do it and never mind what everyone else is doing.

    What is your problem with it, you don't have to participate, you don't have to thank anyone. The first page will be taken up with them then it settles down.

    Its the flavour of the site, you get the non serious first responses then the debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Dudess wrote: »
    Your snide "I wonder what the first thanks-whoring post will be"?

    "Thanks-whoring" is largely in the head I reckon...

    Will the OP admit he was wrong to put that line in his post. I think it may come across a bit different than what he meant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    44leto wrote: »
    What is your problem with it, you don't have to participate, you don't have to thank anyone. The first page will be taken up with them then it settles down.

    Its the flavour of the site, you get the non serious first responses then the debate.
    Ya it would be altogether more boring if all the posts were 100% serious all of the time; there's a place for that, and it's generally not After Hours (though is not unwelcome here either).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    whirlpool wrote: »
    I wonder what the thanks-whoring first reply will be.

    :).............


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    hondasam wrote: »
    I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.
    As the decent poster above says.

    I have no problem admitting I'm wrong sometimes.
    Have admitted it loads a times on the forum and even thanked the posters that have set me straight.
    Why?
    I'd rather be told I was wrong in something than be allowed stew in stupidity continuously.



    (Now I only stew in stupidity on a rare occasion!) :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Dudess wrote: »
    Your snide "I wonder what the first thanks-whoring post will be"?

    "Thanks-whoring" is largely in the head I reckon...
    I want to thank this post but then I'd feel like a Thanks-John.

    Do Thanks Whores have Thanks Pimps? Is there a Thanks-Brothel where one can enjoy cheap laughs at popular internet memes and knee jerk reactionary responses? Do Whores of Easy Thanks walk the seedy streets purveying smart comments that play up on typos in passing cars? I have more Thanks than Posts, am I a Thanks Slut?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    44leto wrote: »
    What is your problem with it, you don't have to participate, you don't have to thank anyone. The first page will be taken up with them then it settles down.

    Its the flavour of the site, you get the non serious first responses then the debate.
    I fully agree but I'm not sure you quoted the right person, as she agrees with you.

    The first reply often isn't a jokey one anyway.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I could be wrong but I generally start posts with the words 'I could be wrong'. No need to admit you are wrong. ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    The vast majority of what people argue about over the internet is just a declaration of their opinion. It's very hard to be wrong when all I'm doing is telling you how I feel about something.

    Even in seemingly serious discussions, it's mostly just people posting different links, proving different things that may or may not actually be relevant to the actual discussion.

    And, most of the time; the people arguing can't even agree what point they are arguing.

    So, all that happens is a bunch of people waste a lot of time, posting their opinion and quoting the opinions of other people they agree with (confirmation bias) and making fun of (while dismissing) the points of other people.

    If anyone was going to prove you wrong, by the time it happens, the thread is dead anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I could be wrong but I generally start posts with the words 'I could be wrong'. No need to admit you are wrong. ever.

    I could be wrong but that's an excellent reply!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭bicardi19


    Sometimes I don't even bother replying to a thread because I really couldn't be bothered getting into a debate. It takes to much thought and I usually just come on here for a bit of light entertainment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Tesco Massacre


    I have no problem admitting I'm wrong whether it be here or in the 'real' world.

    Although luckily for me, being wrong is something I've yet to experience.


    *grins smugly*


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I'll always admit I'm wrong, though I don't think I'm wrong too often, simply because I don't tend to get into debates on issues I don't know much about, especially where concrete facts and figures are involved.

    I can understand why some people don't tend to back down in online arguments, as there isn't the pressure of someone contradicting you face to face. You'll also probably find someone else on the forum to back you up, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence.

    Though of course, some people just don't like to admit they're wrong, online and in the real world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Dudess wrote: »
    I fully agree but I'm not sure you quoted the right person, as she agrees with you.

    The first reply often isn't a jokey one anyway.

    Yeah I see that now. I misinterpreted Hondasam's post. Thanks for pointing that out, apologies to Hondasam.

    I suppose i am admitting to been wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I have no problem admitting I'm wrong whether it be here or in the 'real' world.

    Although luckily for me, being wrong is something I've yet to experience.


    *grins smugly*

    You are one of those ''Seldom right but never wrong'':pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Robdude wrote: »
    The vast majority of what people argue about over the internet is just a declaration of their opinion. It's very hard to be wrong when all I'm doing is telling you how I feel about something.

    Even in seemingly serious discussions, it's mostly just people posting different links, proving different things that may or may not actually be relevant to the actual discussion.

    And, most of the time; the people arguing can't even agree what point they are arguing.

    So, all that happens is a bunch of people waste a lot of time, posting their opinion and quoting the opinions of other people they agree with (confirmation bias) and making fun of (while dismissing) the points of other people.

    If anyone was going to prove you wrong, by the time it happens, the thread is dead anyway.
    I agree with much of that, though it's not always a matter of opinion; as the saying goes:
    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Because being wrong in some people's eyes diminishes their sel worth. It makes them feel inferior when they want to feel superior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    I agree with much of that, though it's not always a matter of opinion; as the saying goes:
    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

    I ADMIT IT - I WAS WRONG!

    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    44leto wrote: »
    Yeah I see that now. I misinterpreted Hondasam's post. Thanks for pointing that out, apologies to Hondasam.

    I suppose i am admitting to been wrong.

    No need to apologise, I did not take offence but Thank you :)

    It's hard for some people to admit when they are wrong (not you) I respect anyone who will admit when they are in the wrong, It shows true character.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    I've been wrong on Boards plenty of times but the problem is that a lot of the people who point it out usually do it in a snidey, insulting, over the top way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Robdude wrote: »
    I ADMIT IT - I WAS WRONG!

    :)
    Yes I was considering adding a jab at that :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Tesco Massacre


    hondasam wrote: »
    You are one of those ''Seldom right but never wrong'':pac:
    :D Yeah, pretty much.

    I'm much the same as The King of Moo on this. The chances of me getting caught out in a serious debate on here are virtually nil since I hardly ever participate in them.

    The pub used to be the place to spout all manner of ill-informed guff without fear of being caught out, but fuc*ing smart phones have put the kibosh on that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Wattle wrote: »
    I've been wrong on Boards plenty of times but the problem is that a lot of the people who point it out usually do it in a snidey, insulting, over the top way.
    Ya this is something I wonder a bit in my posts; I'm not insulting or snidey, but when I'm debating something I think my arguments come across a lot more forcefully than I realize.
    I like a good debate over an interesting topic, so possibly can be a bit too enthusiastic about it :)

    One thing I do tend to reply a bit more forcefully with though, is posts where the other person is not just wrong, but are constructing ever-more-obfuscated arguments, to shield that they are wrong.

    It's interesting; maybe it's just cognitive dissonance in a lot of cases, but so often the arguments are so complicated and cleverly constructed to hide or draw you away from the fault, that it's hard to see how they don't know.

    EDIT: Actually, the worst cases of the above, are when someone is wrong, are shielding it, but do so on such a consistent basis whenever the topic comes up (e.g. Israel vs Palestine topic particularly), that it's impossible to see how they could honestly believe what they are saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    I wouldn't be on a mission to change anyone else's view, ah I think everyone is wrong occasionally, misinformed or changes their opinion slightly after reading the other side of the issue but a poster usually just leaves it at that and doesn't post again to say oh I was wrong on that.

    Unless you're one of those boardsies who must hunt for a opinion that is different to theirs and then post about how right they are and constantly check and recheck threads to see if anyone has disagreed with them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Because being wrong in some people's eyes diminishes their sel worth. It makes them feel inferior when they want to feel superior.
    Do you admit when you're wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,822 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,822 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Actually, no. Never.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Always but never had to :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    "I never apologise, I am sorry Lisa but that is the way I am": The great Homer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I apologise to ........, altho I did not agree with your attitude, I found myself jumping on board for arguments sake. I should have said what I thought and left it at that or better still left it alone.
    I, instead carried it on and made all the Stupid comments which in the end just became a standard joke .
    I was judgemental, petty and some of my comments were just plain mean and served no purpose in the long run.
    I think I need to look inside myself first because a lot of what ....... said, I am guilty of myself.
    I am sorry for being nasty and carrying things on when there was no need to other than provoke people and get MY point across. I know i know better.
    Looks like all the windows in my glass house are broken so I must go about mending them.__________________



    This what we all should post when wrong :P;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Dudess wrote: »
    Because being wrong in some people's eyes diminishes their sel worth. It makes them feel inferior when they want to feel superior.
    Do you admit when you're wrong?

    Yea most recently I admitted I was wrong about one direction. I was convinced we would slowly forget about them, now there number one in America, that's about as wrong as you can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,037 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Of course I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong. Don't know how it'll work, though, since it hasn't happened yet.

    I've developed a kind of "sanity test" for replies to controversial threads: I'll write something then leave it for a short while and do something else. If I remember to come back, and if it still looks OK, I'll finish it and post it. If it looks wrong, I won't. And if I forget that I was going to post a reply and get caught up in something else, then it couldn't have been very important anyway, so I won't bother replying. :cool:

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I regret certain posts I've made, I was often tired and emotional while posting.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Something on the famine and i was way over my depth .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    I find most posters who have issues with what is posted by others are out for a good troll/ or are picking for a fight .... I enjoy a good balanced argument but many who get involved in such potentially enlightening debates are out to derail them....which is a pity but such is life online....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭LeeHoffmann


    I think I did once. If I later think I´m wrong about something, I´ve no problem admitting it. Like many others I suspect, it just doesn´t happen that often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    bicardi19 wrote: »
    Sometimes I don't even bother replying to a thread because I really couldn't be bothered getting into a debate. It takes to much thought and I usually just come on here for a bit of light entertainment.

    I'm the same, I don't often get into debates on here nevermind heavy debates, I have my own views and I'm not bothered preaching to anyone, sometimes I'll type a reply and then think nah I cba getting involved with this and delete it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭uch


    Once i thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken

    21/25



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