US Aircraft Carrier coming to Dublin - 1st September

SamHarris

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Fracking doesn't produce oil ya big dummy. Seriously, are you impaired or something?

Wrong again...

Hydraulic fracturing is the propagation of fractures in a rock layer caused by the presence of a pressurized fluid. Hydraulic fractures form naturally, as in the case of veins or dikes, and is one means by which gas and petroleum from source rocks may migrate to reservoir rocks.

From the Wikipedia page. You know the site?

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I don't even have to use google to realise that you are talking thru your hole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_production

You probably should have.

Im bored of you now. Next time, try not to have an opinion, it saddens me to point out how wrong you are. Feels like beating up a cripple.

I always knew the hand wringing anti US crowd was just chalk full of the cluless. Even I had no idea it was this bad.

44leto

Good it may bomb us, but we deserve it, The irish we should have stayed with the british,,,,Fiana fail shows, we really are not that bright

Chuck Stone

SamHarris wrote: »

Wrong again...

You said that the US has the highest oil reserves if fracking is included yet you choose to include gas and oil? Make up your mind? Also, having oil does not mean economically extractable unlike, say, the middle east or the Caspian sea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_production.

Look at the stats.. what does it say that contradicts you? The rest of the world has the highest gas reserves not the US. Also, what exactly are reserves? Canada has decades of oil reserves in tar sands but are the economically viable?

Chuck Stone

SamHarris wrote: »

Im bored of you now. Next time, try not to have an opinion, it saddens me to point out how wrong you are. Feels like beating up a cripple.

Try not to have an opinion? Why? You'll send in the super carriers to make sure your opinion is the only valid one? No. You will never ever shut up people like me no matter how big your guns are.

I always knew the hand wringing anti US crowd was just chalk full of the cluless. Even I had no idea it was this bad.

I'm pro-US you dummy shill. I'm just not pro-US neocons and elites like you seem to be.

When you learn the difference then you might see that.

SamHarris

Chuck Stone wrote: »

You said that the US has the highest oil reserves if fracking is included yet you choose to include gas and oil?
Make up your mind? Also, having oil does not mean economically extractable unlike, say, the middle east or the Caspian sea.

Read. More. Carefully. Thats not what it says. It says fracking can extract petroleum. As in - You were wrong. Surprise surprise.

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Look at the stats.. what does it say that contradicts you? The rest of the world has the highest gas reserves not the US. Also, what exactly are reserves? Canada has decades of oil reserves in tar sands but are the economically viable?

Can you not even read a table? Thats the sum total of the worlds reserves. Thats right, the US is on the world.

Clutch at all the straws you want, cant make it any clearer than the figures do.

Next time you might want to actually try and know something about what your talking about before starting an argument. Just a little bit of advice.

Im done with you, I think you've been shown enough for one day

SamHarris

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Try not to have an opinion? Why? You'll send in the super carriers to make sure your opinion is the only valid one? No. You will never ever shut up people like me no matter how big your guns are.



I'm pro-US you dummy shill. I'm just not pro-US neocons and elites like you seem to be.

When you learn the difference then you might see that.

Is this serious?

Your certainly making me feel elite by comparison, Ill give you that.

Manic Moran

Chuck Stone wrote: »

In before Manic Moran. (Who I'll listen to and consider but may not agree with).

Heh.

I've not much to say on this one, actually. I was one of the lucky lottery winners to get aboard JFK when it showed up last time. Of course, I've been on a few more carriers since. I seem to recall it was around for 4th July, and started the tradition of a fireworks display on 4th July by the Liffey which lasted a few years. That was a fair bit of fun.

I also seem to recall the entire nation keeling to the East as half the female population of the nation went to Dublin.

Enterprise is shortly going out of service. It's a fascinating piece of equipment, and will soon be scrapped. Might as well look at it now while you can, the opportunity doesn't come often to Ireland.

If you think a multi billion dollar weapons platform is versatile then, at best, I don't put any faith in your understanding of what the word 'versatile' means and at worst I think you are a shill or a troll.

I'm not sure quite what you mean by that. Enterprise itself, granted, is not incredibly versatile: Its sole function is to launch and recover aircraft. But what those aircraft have been used for is anything from comabt missions through supporting the earliest space missions to humanitarian missions and search/rescue. This doesn't deny the fact that the primary reason it was built was to kill people and destroy things, but it has proven quite serviceable in other roles.

NTM

Darius.Tr

So the prophecy's of boards.ie are comming true, US is comming here for oil? The republic of cork will be f***ed...

true

44leto wrote: »

Good it may bomb us, but we deserve it, The irish we should have stayed with the british,,,,Fiana fail shows, we really are not that bright

Charlie Haughey's government paid for a airport in Knock that cost a fortune at the time but was one of only 3 airports on the island capable of catering for the largest American military planes. Maybe he wanted a US base we could lease to the Yanks if everything went pear shaped?

El Weirdo

El Weirdo wrote: »

This.

From an engineering point of view - Brilliant.

From a moral point of view - fuck off with your big war machine.

Thank FcUK for the Americans and their hardware. Don`t fancy the Gulags.

jackdock88

These war ships to me represent a massive waste of taxpayer money that could potentially have been never taken from workers but instead invested in businesses to make everybody better off.

Manic Moran

Businesses like Raytheon, Grumman, Newport News Shipbuilding, Westinghouse... all employing American workers?

true

Deleted User wrote: »

Thank FcUK for the Americans and their hardware. Don`t fancy the Gulags.

If it was not for the Yanks we would be speaking German or Russian.
And if life in Muslim countries is so great, why do they all want to live in the west?

g0g

April Fool? I'm not gonna get excited about anything I read today

Zebra3

Pete M. wrote: »

Operation Iraqi Freedom

You mean Operation Iraqi Liberation.

irjudge

GODDAMIT, YOU PEOPLE WITH MORALS RUIN EVERYTHING! S'pose I'll have to go to the electric picnic instead, smoke my pants and eat fallafel.

bnt

Well, the Enterprise definitely won't be steaming up the Liffey, or even docking at Dublin Port; neither have the required depth (12m).

The thing is a white elephant and a political football. The US Navy spent two years and $662 million refurbishing her in 2008-10, yet this trip comes during her last deployment. She'll be decommissioned in 2013 and broken up. It would cost too much to turn her in to a museum.

karma_

44leto wrote: »

Good it may bomb us, but we deserve it, The irish we should have stayed with the british,,,,Fiana fail shows, we really are not that bright

Is this sentence in English can anyone tell me?

Deus Ex Machina

That argument between Chuck Stone and Sam Harris was funnier, change the channel back to that.

helimachoptor

bnt wrote: »

Well, the Enterprise definitely won't be steaming up the Liffey, or even docking at Dublin Port; neither have the required depth (12m).

The thing is a white elephant and a political football. The US Navy spent two years and $662 million refurbishing her in 2008-10, yet this trip comes during her last deployment. She'll be decommissioned in 2013 and broken up. It would cost too much to turn her in to a museum.

They should replace the intrepid with the big E in NYC the amount of visitors it would get would be astronomical

ejmaztec

Deleted User wrote: »

I was talking about this JFK.

Sorry, I must have been asleep.:(

Robdude

The invasion begins....

armitage_skanks

Was on one of these in new york and they had the blackbird up on top, amazing plane

tony007

Manic Moran wrote: »

Enterprise is shortly going out of service. It's a fascinating piece of equipment, and will soon be scrapped. Might as well look at it now while you can, the opportunity doesn't come often to Ireland.


NTM

I wouldn't call a machinethat has a primary aim of killing people as ''fascinating''.

wyndham

Gonna be a great weekend in Dublin.

Nate--IRL--

tony007 wrote: »

I wouldn't call a machinethat has a primary aim of killing people as ''fascinating''.

Why not?

Nate

Nodin

tony007 wrote: »

I wouldn't call a machinethat has a primary aim of killing people as ''fascinating''.

I would. There are a number of museums around the world that cater to those that agree with me.

DebDynamite

More importantly, hot men in uniform

true

wyndham wrote: »

Gonna be a great weekend in Dublin.

maybe they could liberate us from our elected politicians and govern us properly?....as we have proven we cannot govern ourselves.

impr0v

troposphere wrote: »

Would they be allowed to do a fly over of Croke Park for the football game?

Allowed? I don't think we would be in a position to stop them if they decided they wanted to.

tony007

Nodin wrote: »

I would. There are a number of museums around the world that cater to those that agree with me.

Seeing that the ship is still in use, it has no place in a museum. This ship is still being used to further the aims of us foreign policy.

tony007

true wrote: »

maybe they could liberate us from our elected politicians and govern us properly?....as we have proven we cannot govern ourselves.

Yeah, they should install someone likePinochet.

tvc15

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It wasn't me!

tony007 wrote: »

Seeing that the ship is still in use, it has no place in a museum. This ship is still being used to further the aims of us foreign policy.

Certainly doesn't make it less interesting as a feat of engineering.

Channel Zero

Manic Moran wrote: »

Businesses like Raytheon, Grumman, Newport News Shipbuilding, Westinghouse... all employing American workers?

The business of death.

DB21

Would love to go and see it. Always been fascinated by the scale of some of the American military machinery.

tony007

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Certainly doesn't make it less interesting as a feat of engineering.

No, it doesn't. But would you have any qualms regarding visiting a German U-boat docked in dublin during the second world war?

It wasn't me!

Nope. It's a machine for killing folk and wrecking stuff. If you really think the side using it is significant as to whether it's impressive, you're looking at it wrong.

WoollyRedHat

Awesome, I'm heading back home from New York around that date, might try hitch a ride back home with them.

PapaQuebec

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056592772

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Nate--IRL--

tony007 wrote: »

No, it doesn't. But would you have any qualms regarding visiting a German U-boat docked in dublin during the second world war?

Submarines are interesting too.

Nate

WolfForager

As mechanical engineering student I'd love to see this thing, amazing stuff.

As an average Joe, I'd also love to see this thing, amazing stuff.

PapaQuebec

WolfForager wrote: »

As mechanical engineering student I'd love to see this thing, amazing stuff.

As an average Joe, I'd also love to see this thing, amazing stuff.

Follow the link in my post above - It's NOT coming!!

seanmacc

FGS Hessen with 2 other German War ships are coming on the 27th of April. We can practice our disapproval of murder machines on them first

http://www.opsail2012virginia.com/file/FGS_HESSEN.jpg

PapaQuebec

seanmacc wrote: »

FGS Hessen with 2 other German War ships are coming on the 27th of April. We can practice our disapproval of murder machines on them first

http://www.opsail2012virginia.com/file/FGS_HESSEN.jpg

"Ve haff vays ov making you pay ze promissory notes, ya?"

Logical Fallacy

Johro wrote: »

Wow. A chance to meet Captain Picard. And Data.

If they bring Tasha Yar back from the dead I am there.

And erect.

KeithAFC

Why is the Yankee Army sending this Aircraft carrier to Dublin?

Nodin

KeithAFC wrote: »

Why is the Yankee Army sending this Aircraft carrier to Dublin?

......there was an intercepted message on Wikileaks a while back. Most of it was redacted but it read


".......do the men good,..... ........ particularily in light of........moxy load of spare .ee"

Manic Moran

PapaQuebec wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056592772

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That seems to settle that. False information.

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Nope. It's a machine for killing folk and wrecking stuff. If you really think the side using it is significant as to whether it's impressive, you're looking at it wrong.

U-505, a Type IXC is a museum in Chicago right now, actually. Reminds me, I must visit.

Deus Ex Machina

I'd hate to be such a wiggly little moaner that I'd be shîting on about unnecessary wars and regurgitating wanky liberal philosophies when faced with this amazing ship. What a joyless life they must lead.