WrestleMania 28 - Aftermath thread - *Spoilers*

smallerthanyou

8

I went for 7. The HITC was one of the greatest matches I've ever seen. Worth the e22 on it's own. Punk Jericho was slow to build but got there. Cena and Rock didn't live up to the hype, but not sure it could have. The ending was good.

The rest was pretty average at best. The first match was a joke, I wanted to see DB get pummelled a lot. Can't remember a single element of Orton V Kane. Divas, whatever. Tag team - no clue who actually pinned Zack for the win. Big Show Cody also forgettable.

Lord TSC

9

Pros
Taker vs HHH was epic. Not as spotfesty as previous Taker matches. Just a great story told by three vets, with a brilliant ending visual.
Cena vs Rock was decent, even if there were bits that dragged (Did anyone believe Cena or Rock would tap out?). The ending was great in that it gives Cena's character somewhere new and fresh to go....even though we know he'll laugh it off tonight.

Cons
Bryan vs Sheamus was horrible. Talk about killing a crowd in match one; I've watched it twice now, and the crowd seemed really up for the match. The reaction Bryan was getting was on par with Cena/Rock and Taker/HHH. It showed the crowd were pumped for a big event...and the match killed them. It took them 90 minutes to get the crowd back to that level. You telling me they couldn't have shaved off a minute or two in other matches, or dropped the Clay segment which served NO purpose? Give the two of them even 3 minutes to just kill each other and then have a shock, quick win? What a horrible, horrible idea to open a show. Even if it had been stuck in the middle of the card, it would have been better.

JP Liz V1

8

Rock/Cena and HHH/Taker were good

Show is the IC champ :eek:

Dancor

cena wrote: »

anyone know where I can watch this online

Dailymotion have loads of videos up.

the groutch

5

Stadium: Ramp was very bland and you could see the stadium had alot of empty seats early on. Also the timing meant it wasnt porperly dark til Taker's match. Needs to be indoors, roll on WM30 in The Garden

Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan: Really? you build up a match with the future of your business and end it in 18 seconds? I was so tempted to switch off there and then, as I imagine alot of people did. What's worse is the segments later in the show that "replaced" it.

Kane vs Orton: An okay match, but made Kane look too weak, Orton was able to boss him too easily considering the size difference. Reasonably happy with the result, chance to take Orton down a different path, he's getting too stale and repetitive over the last year.

Foley, Santino & Simmons: Bit cringeworthy, but worth it just for the DAMN!

The Big Show vs Cody Rhodes: Average at best, never made you feel there could be any result that a Big Show win. Hopefully Rhodes gets a fued with Sheamus now, he deserves it.

Diva tag team match: As boring as any divas match usually is, but at least Maria Mentos did more than most celebs do in these matches.

The Undertaker vs HHH: Should have been on last and saved the show from absolute failure. Bit slow getting going, but when it did it was as good as anything I've seen in the last decade. Petered out again a bit though, but finish was nice, thank god he used the tombstone to finish it, and not hell's gate. JR on commentary was a nice extra touch, hope he comes back full time

Team Johnny vs Team Teddy: Felt alot more like a RAW/Smackdown match (especially the whole Eve thing), cluster**** of everyone hitting their spots to clear the ring so predictable. Team Johnny had to win for the storyline, but hate that it was Miz that got the pin, he needs to be future endeavoured rather than pushed imo.

CM Punk vs Jericho: Good solid match, but the stip kinda ruined it, coz it pretty much told you the result. Shame to kill a feud that with a DQ win for Jericho but Punk retaining could have set things up nicely.

Brodus: Total embarrassment to wrestling fullstop. A spit in the face to every Sheamus/Bryan fan.

The Rock vs Cena: The songs before each entrance were like ear-rape, are the WWE that bad for money that they have to throw in music like that just before a WM main event?
Match was very meh, they built it up like Hogan/Rock, but was more like Hogan/Sting.
At least Rock won, it Cena had gone over clean I'd have given up on WWE completely.

4/10 (most of that for Taker V Trips) but I won't be staying up to watch any more PPVs if that's what we get

MitchKoobski

10

Bryan/Sheamus: The cowardly heel was destroyed in seconds. While I wanted a match and they could have scrapped other segments, it still kinda works for me.

Kane/Orton: It was what it was. Didn't expect Kane to get the win so that was a nice suprise. Simple payday for the two of them though.

Cody/Show: Cheered Big Show for years. Enjoyed seeing how much it meant to him to win at Wrestlemania.

Divas match: I was on my phone, waiting for the popcorn to finish.

Taker/HHH: Worth the price and more on its own. Amazing story told. If we never saw HHH/Taker/HBK again, that was the perfect end.

Team Teddy/Team Long: Was expecting a Teddy win. Three person flip to the outside was awesome. Why the **** did nobody stop Eva after she castrated Ryder!?

Punk/Jericho: Great match with some great spots.

Funkasaraus segment: I don't care what anyone says. That was hilarious and I loved it.

Cena/Rock: Couple of areas where I was checking my phone while waiting for holds to end. Still loved the back and forth, crowd really added to it. I was actually cheering for Cena here, but as time went on you could tell a Cena win would lead to a bad boo-filled ending to Mania.

8:50 reaction!

Gave it 9/10 because at no point was I really bored or critical of a match. I enjoyed myself the whole way through, and thats what matters to me really.

Riddle101

5

Haven't done one of these in a good while but since it's Wrestlmania.

For those who have forgotten my rating system
10-Excellent
9-Great
8-Very Good
7-Good
6-Above Average
5-Average
4-Below Average
3-Bad
2-Very Bad
1-Dreadful
0-Terrible

Sheamus Vs Daniel Bryan World Heavyweight Championship- What a f*cking disgrace of a World title match. I can understand when they do it to a lesser title like I.C/US or ECW title but when they do it for a world title I just can't believe i'm watching this sh!t. It's bad enough that the fued as a whole was crap, I thought they'd make up for it with the match but I was wrong. What a waste of a Royal Rumble win as well.

Match Rating 0/10, if you could even call it a match.

Kane Vs Randy Orton- Was decent for what it's worth, I mean I wasn't expecting a classic or anything but I suppose it is what it is. Plus I thought Kane going over was really unexpected. At least I can rub it in all the fans faces who thought Kane was a jobber now and saying that he is was being buried by Cena and Orton.

Match Rating 5/10, Average being decent

Big Show Vs Cody Rhodes Intercontinental Championship- I didn't really like it tbh, maybe it's because of my bias against Big Show but I didn't really get into tbh. But I suppose it allowed Big Show his big wrestlmania moment if you could even call it that. I guess this means that Cody Rhodes will be getting a push to the main event soon now that he's no longer champion.

Match Rating 4/10 Some might think I'm being unfair but I didn't enjoy it

Divas Tag Match- Same as ever with a divas match, was never going to live up to standard and for good reason as well, when you have to resort to Kelly Kelly doing most of the work for her team, then you know the situation is dire. I heard Maria injured herself which might explain why she seemed hurt at the end, or maybe she's just a good seller.

Match Rating 0/10 couldn't even beat Sheamus and Bryan's 10 second blunder:D

Undertaker Vs Triple III Hell IN A Cell Streak Match- I notice a lot of people are praising this match. But I'm going to have to play the role of Mr Negative and say that I wasn't overly impressed with it. Maybe I just have high expectations after watching the last 3 manias but I really thought that this match didn't live up to the hype, and here why. (1) What the hell was HBKand HHH doing throughout the match. You had HBK trying to stop HHH from using the chair one minute, then superkicking Undertaker next minute. THEN, HHH kept telling HBK to call the match. I mean seriously c'mon that's really bad storytelling if you ask me. It's a Hell in A Cell, it's meant to be barbaric. I don't remember anyone asking Mankind to give up when he was thrown off the cell in 1998, or tossed through to the cell in 2000. I just don't think it made sense, since the last couple of weeks they were both talking about ending the streak. (2) No use of the Cell or the enviornment. As I said, it's a HIAC, it's supposed to be barbaric, Taker and HHH should have been ripping each other apart and taking advantage of the environment, but not once did I actually see them use the cage. Not something I expected in a HIAC. (3) Didn't care for the finish to the match. I was expecting a lot of near falls and old school stuff, but the match finished real abructly I thought. I would have liken to have seen HHH kick out of the Thombstone or something. (4) Undertaker helping HHH up the ramp. Ok I know they have respect for each other, but this is Undertaker we're talking about. He's not supposed to show that type of emotion for someone, i'd have rather he just left the ring and let HBK help HHH up the ramp on his own. I just thought it was out of character, and if Taker could do that then I suppose the dramatic send off I always wanted for Taker where he does his kneeling taunt, the place goes dark and he disappears if out of the question.

Match Rating 7/10, despite my negative review of the match, I do think it was good. Their in ring work was good and there was good emotion during the match as well. Certainly nothing compared to the last 3 but I can sleep happy now, knowing that Taker is 20-0.

Team Teddy Vs Team Johnny Ace- I never expect match for tag matches like these. I remember last year we had The Corre Vs Kane, Big Show, Kofi Kingston and Santino and it was only 20 seconds long or something. But yeah these matches always tend to suck as Mania. The only good thing about the match is the fact that John Laurnitis won which mean we get to see more of Mr Excitment:D.

Match Rating 4/10, I could go lower but I did actually like some moments in the match.

Chris Jericho Vs CM Punk WWE Championship- Best match of the night I thought, real good work for both guys and I guess CM Punk get's his proper Wrestlmania moment. His last Wrestlmanias have always had him either losing or winning Money In The Banks. But to have a great match and leave WWE Champ is a real cool is better by comparison.

Matching Rating 9/10, Am I rating this too high? when I think of great I think of 4 star type matches but I'm not sure if this even meets the requirments. But I suppose rating a match out of stars and numbers is different, especially since my ratings are out of 10. But by WWE PG Era standards the match was great anyway.

The Rock Vs John Cena- I thought the match was very good. Both men put a lot of heart into it, and I really liked the fact that The Rock beat Cena.The term humbled could not be used better when talking about Cena. But yeah I liked the match, and it was certainly one of the best matches at Mania 28 which was hard tbh. As far as Main Events go, it was far far better then last year's lack luster performance. BTW Who the hell was that skinny white rapper that "Diddy" introduced? I'm not a fan of Flo Rida either so both performance were sh!t.

Matching Rating 8/10, Very Good as I said but not better or equal to Punk/Jericho so can't rate any higher and I wouldn't anyway.

Overall Review. It was better then last years that's for sure. But it still wasn't impressive for me. The last two years have shown how low WWE have sunk as far as booking Wrestlmania goes. WWE are just not giving us our money's worth as far as promoting goes. Word of advice for Vince. If you're wondering why your product is so sh!t, don't look at the Wrestlers look at yourself and the guys who book this sh*t because you're starting to make TNA's booking team look like geniouses. Not that i'm complaining tbh:D.

QikBax

8

the groutch wrote: »

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CM Punk vs Jericho: Good solid match, but the stip kinda ruined it, coz it pretty much told you the result. Shame to kill a feud that with a DQ win for Jericho but Punk retaining could have set things up nicely.

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Did you fall asleep?

Degag

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Also was it just me or was the pyro malfunctioning? I felt the shows production in general was below the standard I'd associate for Mania.

Think it failed during HBK's entrance anyway.

A Primal Nut

10

Riddle101 wrote: »

Undertaker Vs Triple III Hell IN A Cell Streak Match- I notice a lot of people are praising this match. But I'm going to have to play the role of Mr Negative and say that I wasn't overly impressed with it. Maybe I just have high expectations after watching the last 3 manias but I really thought that this match didn't live up to the hype, and here why. (1) What the hell was HBKand HHH doing throughout the match. You had HBK trying to stop HHH from using the chair one minute, then superkicking Undertaker next minute. THEN, HHH kept telling HBK to call the match. I mean seriously c'mon that's really bad storytelling if you ask me. It's a Hell in A Cell, it's meant to be barbaric. I don't remember anyone asking Mankind to give up when he was thrown off the cell in 1998, or tossed through to the cell in 2000. I just don't think it made sense, since the last couple of weeks they were both talking about ending the streak. (2) No use of the Cell or the enviornment. As I said, it's a HIAC, it's supposed to be barbaric, Taker and HHH should have been ripping each other apart and taking advantage of the environment, but not once did I actually see them use the cage. Not something I expected in a HIAC. (3) Didn't care for the finish to the match. I was expecting a lot of near falls and old school stuff, but the match finished real abructly I thought. I would have liken to have seen HHH kick out of the Thombstone or something. (4) Undertaker helping HHH up the ramp. Ok I know they have respect for each other, but this is Undertaker we're talking about. He's not supposed to show that type of emotion for someone, i'd have rather he just left the ring and let HBK help HHH up the ramp on his own. I just thought it was out of character, and if Taker could do that then I suppose the dramatic send off I always wanted for Taker where he does his kneeling taunt, the place goes dark and he disappears if out of the question.

They used the cell a lot at the start each guy being thrown into the cell and it played its part in not allowing anyone escape when they needed a breather. I'm 90% sure Triple H kicked out of the tombstone at one point around the middle!

Riddle101

5

A Primal Nut wrote: »

They used the cell a lot at the start each guy being thrown into the cell and it played its part in not allowing anyone escape when they needed a breather. I'm 90% sure Triple H kicked out of the tombstone at one point around the middle!

Really? Maybe they did, I must have forgotten but I still think more could have been done though. As for the thombostone, when the match is put up on youtube, I'll have to check it out again.

Degag

A Primal Nut wrote: »

They used the cell a lot at the start each guy being thrown into the cell and it played its part in not allowing anyone escape when they needed a breather. I'm 90% sure Triple H kicked out of the tombstone at one point around the middle!

Indeed he did.

I thought they were going to the top of the cell during the match because it looked like there were holes in the cell to put your feet into....

MitchKoobski

10

the groutch wrote: »

CM Punk vs Jericho: Good solid match, but the stip kinda ruined it, coz it pretty much told you the result. Shame to kill a feud that with a DQ win for Jericho but Punk retaining could have set things up nicely.

Punk tries to punch and kick his way out and finally succeeds and goes back to the Anaconda Vice and Jericho is finally forced to tap out.

Winner: CM Punk

Jericho looks mad as Punk celebrates and shouts out once again that he is the Best In The World.

ಠ_ಠ

A Primal Nut

10

Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan: Myself and my friends were watching it and cheering on Sheamus and we went crazy when he won so quickly so was a nice moment but still didn't make up for the lack of a match. I'd say Bryan will be blaming his defeat on A.J.

Kane vs Orton: Thought it was decent, delighted to see Kane win.

The Big Show vs Cody Rhodes: Nice moment for the Big Show, decent match.

Diva tag team match: Felt sorry for how injured Maria was, awful match overall.

The Undertaker vs HHH: Amazing, incredible match and JR made all the difference on commentary as well. None of the current generation will ever put on matches like this.

Team Johnny vs Team Teddy: Was ok, thought the ending didn't really have anything to do with the Johnny/Teddy feud which was disappointing after such a big buildup. A lot more interaction involving the two GMs could have made this a lot more entertaining. Really wanted to see Santino hit the Cobra on Laurinitis, even if only after the match.

CM Punk vs Jericho: Enjoyed this match. Was as good as I expected.

The Rock vs Cena: The songs ruined the buildup. Amazing match and delighted the Rock won!

rovert

Being difficult I give it a 7.5 as it was far better than last year. I really don't know what people ****ting on the show expect where and from what era of Wrestling did you form this standard? There has been more Wrestlemania 28s than 17s in the history of the show.

Nuri Sahin

6

Show Time wrote: »

As i said in the live thread last night the two lads will be around for years to come and will get a chance to have a proper big time match at Wrestlemania at some stage.

Can you say with any confidence that Brian will be involved in as big a profile match as that again? I'd be fairly confident with Sheamus now that he'll be in a similar level match (world title), but not Brian. Unless he was injured or something, what happened mere hours ago was hugely disappointing in those who wanted to see a good if not highly entertaining wrestling match, and like myself, I expected both of these men to produce that if given the right time.

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Went with 5 in the ratings, perhaps somewhat harsh when looking back at it. 6... maybe a 6.5 would at a push would have been fairer. HIAC was in a different league, that aside I did enjoy Punk - Jericho despite it being far more slower than I expected overall. Couple of decent spots in the other match. Enjoyed the Cody - Show match, and while the match I didn't care for it, I was happy Kane went over Orton clean :eek: Tag match.. meh, at least Ziggler was on the PPV I suppose. Divas.... Maria looked lovely :P Only positive. Cena - Rock was alright. Wasn't expecting much from either tbh, and was quite tired around the last 10 mins. Happy the Rock went over, but tis a bit funny the supposed no.1 guy for the last 7 odd years and is in week in and week out couldn't win.

At least my accum came in heh

edit: production value and stadium/crowd was poor. Wished they returned to indoor arenas, little to no chance of that anymore I guess.

spiralism

10

I'm still a bit pissed at the Bryan burial. It could have been the best mania ever only for it. Can't remember the last event, even mania i watched where there were three match of the year candidates in the one show. And yes, they were that good. Any one of them would have completely stolen the show at any PPV.

HIAC was one for the ages, up there with Taker/Michaels and Taker/Foley back in the day. Need to rewatch it tbh to take it in properly.

Punk/Jericho was an excellent match with the right combo of skilled moves, two great in ring workers, good heat worked through the DQ angle and no gimmicks. Just straight up, balls out wrestling. Finish was epic and some of the reversals and exchanges throughout were class. Brilliant storytelling. Would like to see Jericho go over in the rematch now.

Rock/Cena was better than i ever expected it to be. **** me, the Rock still has it and Cena was well able to hang with him. Crowd was so into it which made it the classic it was. Again i'm using the term storytelling but what a story it told, end of a year long journey with false finishes and mark out moments aplenty and most importantly The Rock WON!

GTR63

Show Time wrote: »

As i said in the live thread last night the two lads will be around for years to come and will get a chance to have a proper big time match at Wrestlemania at some stage.

A WrestleMania Trilogy. The first match got relegated from being on the main show to a dark match that ended in a DQ that resulted in a Battle Royal that was won by Khali. The second match lasted 18 seconds & Mainly consisted of a Kiss cause WWE wanted to Break the record for the fastest match ever at WrestleMania & some people want Sheamus vs Bryan III at Mania, er good luck with that lads. Might be some chance if they had great chemistry in the build up but they had very little time or interaction with one another on tv.

rovert

spiralism wrote: »

I'm still a bit pissed at the Bryan burial.

Oh you didnt. :P

I realise you are angry but a heel showing ass isnt a burial.

spiralism

10

rovert wrote: »

Oh you didnt. :P

I realise you are angry but a heel showing ass isnt a burial.

It is though. Biggest stage of them all, a lot of part timers tune in just for that, what's their reaction going to be only "that lad is ****e"?

I know they're going for the "cowardly heel gets his comeuppance" line but don't do that in Mania with a match a lot of people were looking forward to that included the massively over Rumble winner and possibly the best mat wrestler in the business ffs. Kane/Orton and Show/Cody were two far better candidates for the squash. I mean, this devalued both the WHC and the Royal Rumble in one fell swoop. Still bitching about this two months on but last night is why Jericho should have won the Rumble.

GTR63

Bryan wasn't berried but he was squashed like a grape. Maybe he'll have to start coming out with a Cross now like Sanchez what else is he going to shout YES, YES, YES, YES about. WWE pissed off a lot of the fans in the crowd sorry "universe" with what they did though. Bryan probably had more signs than anybody else & they didn't get them back until the Cell. Bar that guy in the front row with Cap & camera nothing impressed that guys stone faced poker face.

Show Time

9

GTR63 wrote: »

A WrestleMania Trilogy. The first match got relegated from being on the main show to a dark match that ended in a DQ that resulted in a Battle Royal that was won by Khali. The second match lasted 18 seconds & Mainly consisted of a Kiss cause WWE wanted to Break the record for the fastest match ever at WrestleMania & some people want Sheamus vs Bryan III at Mania, er good luck with that lads. Might be some chance if they had great chemistry in the build up but they had very little time or interaction with one another on tv.

Can't forget it is the old NWA/WCW belt so Vince could be having a sly dig at his old foes by having it defended two years in a row on as the first match in the biggest card of the year.

GTR63

Show Time wrote: »

Can't forget it is the old NWA/WCW belt so Vince could be having a sly dig at his old foes by having it defended two years in a row on as the first match in the biggest card of the year.

I thought his dig at Bruce Prichard would be tasteless enough for the whole show. Saying Laurinaitis' suit would give Brother Love a heart attack, keeping it classy vince with your warped sense of humour

Show Time

9

GTR63 wrote: »

I thought his dig at Bruce Prichard would be tasteless enough for the whole show. Saying Laurinaitis' suit would give Brother Love a heart attack, keeping it classy vince with your warped sense of humour

Brother Love was the man.:D

ricero

8

i was disgusted bryan and sheamus didn't even get 10 minutes. y2j vs punk was a very good match and rock vs cena was pretty meh i even saw people in the crowd yawning at one stage. very dissapointed the rock won i will came to dislike the man over the past year, hes a sell - out in my eyes and will **** off again now for several months.

taker vs hhh was 10 out of 10 best mania match ever imo in terms of in ring story telling. i loved hhh crotch chop at the end after he knew he lost it and taker standing on the sledgehammer

DM_7

9

The Rock v Cena match was for the fans.

The HHH v Taker match was for their own ego's.

Just how I feel at the moment.

the groutch

5

doesnt bode well for the WWE going forward if the guys who carried WM (Taker, HHH, Rock, Jericho) are all going away.

CMpunked

8

the groutch wrote: »

doesnt bode well for the WWE going forward if the guys who carried WM (Taker, HHH, Rock, Jericho) are all going away.

Sure its grand, Brock and Batista are coming back! :rolleyes:

the groutch

5

CMpunked wrote: »

Sure its grand, Brock and Batista are coming back! :rolleyes:

you forgot about the A-Train (chooo choooo)

JP Liz V1

8

the groutch wrote: »

doesnt bode well for the WWE going forward if the guys who carried WM (Taker, HHH, Rock, Jericho) are all going away.

The only "newbie" who could move up the card from this Mania is Cody Rhodes and he lost