Unable to get Age Card because I don't have an ID

obliviousgrudge

I ordered an Age Card application form last week.

So today I got the passport photos and looked for my birth certificate.

Went to the Garda station with the application form, photos, birth certificate and a baptismal certificate.

I was told that I couldn't get it as I don't have two forms of acceptable ID.

So I was told my best bet would be to apply for a passport.

So, they expect me to pay €80.00 so that I can get an Age Card which I then won't need, as the Passport is a form of ID?

Bloody joke in my opinion.

MadYaker

Do you not have a passport anyway? I thought everyone had one.

Passports are expensive to replace i think if you lose it more than twice they might not replace it. I use and age card as my id unless im travelling.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

You, Sir, are not having a good day.

obliviousgrudge

MadYaker wrote: »

Do you not have a passport anyway? I thought everyone had one.

Nah, thats why I was getting an age card, it's about 70 euro cheaper and does the same job. Never travel anywhere anyway.

obliviousgrudge

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You, Sir, are not having a good day.

You can say that again.

forfuxsake

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Nah, thats why I was getting an age card, it's about 70 euro cheaper and does the same job. Never travel anywhere anyway.

Then how did you get to the bank?

The King of Moo

You're surely going to need a passport at some point, so why not just get that?

MadYaker

Drivers license?

obliviousgrudge

forfuxsake wrote: »

Then how did you get to the bank?

What I meant was that I never travel abroad.

Oh, you were making a joke.

By walking, FYI

CardBordWindow

Ah, the problems of a young drinking person.

.....i feel so old.:(

Rossgorry

They're obviously going to need some form of photo ID. You could be using anyones birth certificate.

Superbus

It's bizarre. It's like how an expired passport doesn't count as a proper form of ID - it's still me like. There's an odd level of bureaucracy when it comes to ID for some reason.

obliviousgrudge

MadYaker wrote: »

Drivers license?

nope, don't have one of these either

N1cola

hey

i had the same problem...but the thing is, you can't get a passport either without a form of id. My local guards told me that i had to get a signed letter from my GP so proof of id so maybe try this and hope for the best.

hondasam

http://www.agecard.ie/

You must have other ID, pps number, bank a/c.

TeddyTedson

poor baby

MadYaker

Id say get a passport, like King Of Moo says you will probably need one eventually.

Skerries

you need one of these

obliviousgrudge

hondasam wrote: »

http://www.agecard.ie/

You must have other ID, pps number, bank a/c.

Yeah, I have a bank account but she said she wanted a photo ID.

Del2005

Some companies only accept the age card, so a passport will be no use.

I'd go to a different cop shop, according to the age card site you only need one item of ID.

hondasam

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Yeah, I have a bank account but she said she wanted a photo ID.

What documentation do I need to get my Age Card?
You will need the following:
• Your Birth Certificate or your GNIB (Garda National Immigration Bureau) Card or your valid Passport (in date)
• One other form of ID.
• One recent passport photograph.

Go to a different Garda station or ask to speak to a different guard.

obliviousgrudge

CardBordWindow wrote: »

Ah, the problems of a young drinking person.

.....i feel so old.:(

Sad thing is I don't even drink.

Want it for gambling LOL

**Timbuk2**

How did you open a bank account without photo ID?

The King of Moo

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Sad thing is I don't even drink.

Want it for gambling LOL

Tell the guard that and they'll surely be sympathetic and give you the card.

Luap

Grow a beard.

Cheaper option.

obliviousgrudge

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

How did you open a bank account without photo ID?

Had it opened for me by my grandparents when I was 9 or 10. Had nothing to do with it LOL

hondasam

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

How did you open a bank account without photo ID?

Maybe he tried to lodge the money in the garda station and looked for the Age card in the bank, I would not be surprised.

pragmatic1

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

nope, don't have one of these either

Take the driver theory test and you'll get a provisional with photo id. Only costs about 40 euro.

WoollyRedHat

I remember when Tesco were only accepting Age Cards as Id. How do you think people got them?

Also very annoying when places don't take Age Cards and just Passports, they're Garda approved and are pretty hard to fake... the new ones anyway

AngryBollix

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

I ordered an Age Card application form last week.

So today I got the passport photos and looked for my birth certificate.

Went to the Garda station with the application form, photos, birth certificate and a baptismal certificate.

I was told that I couldn't get it as I don't have two forms of acceptable ID.

So I was told my best bet would be to apply for a passport.

So, they expect me to pay €80.00 so that I can get an Age Card which I then won't need, as the Passport is a form of ID?

Bloody joke in my opinion.

Just get the f*cking passport will you.

CrazyRabbit

Why would an 11 year old need an ID card? You should wait until you are older OP.

JeffK88

My girlfriend used a Work ID and brought proof of address . The garda accepted that. Even college ID might be worth giving a try

WoollyRedHat

AngryBollix wrote: »

Just get the f*cking passport will you.

No, the Israeli Secret Service will just forge it


I remember when I didn't want to bring out my passport on account of it only being valid for 2 years, I got away with my college I.D and a European Health card :P

cocoshovel

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Went to the Garda station with the application form, photos, birth certificate and a baptismal certificate.

What in the name of jaysus! I cringed.

smash

No passport, no driving license, no photo ID... You could be anyone ffs. No wonder the Garda won't accept a few bits of paper with a name on them.

hondasam

smash wrote: »

No passport, no driving license, no photo ID... You could be anyone ffs. No wonder the Garda won't accept a few bits of paper with a name on them.

He has his Birth cert and his photo, he needs another form of ID, bank a/c, pps number should do. It does not state it requires photo ID.

Mark200

cocoshovel wrote: »

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Went to the Garda station with the application form, photos, birth certificate and a baptismal certificate.

What in the name of jaysus! I cringed.

Why? It's one of the things they accept.

PammyD

This is from the age card site..

What documentation do I need to get my Age Card?
You will need the following:
• Your Birth Certificate or your GNIB (Garda National Immigration Bureau) Card or your valid Passport (in date)
• One other form of ID.
• One recent passport photograph.

It does not state that the ID must be picture ID!!

Lima Golf

You don't need a form of photo ID, the Garda can write "personally known" on the form, where it looks for details of the ID produced.

If you know, or any of your family know a local Garda look to speak to them. My sister had the same issue and this is what they did for her.

pa990

Lima Golf wrote: »

You don't need a form of photo ID, the Garda can write "personally known" on the form, where it looks for details of the ID produced.

If you know, or any of your family know a local Garda look to speak to them. My sister had the same issue and this is what they did for her.

they can write whatever they want.. but it wont be accepted by the processing office

Lima Golf

they can write whatever they want.. but it wont be accepted by the processing office[/Quote]

She got her age card...

Bubblefett

Op, you can apply online through here https://www.agecard.ie/terms.html
I think you still end up having to go into the Garda Station if memory serves but at least you'll have a print out saying what you have is fine.

MagicSean

Superbus wrote: »

It's bizarre. It's like how an expired passport doesn't count as a proper form of ID - it's still me like. There's an odd level of bureaucracy when it comes to ID for some reason.

That's because young ones were selling their drivers licences and expired passports over in Ibiza.

N1cola wrote: »

hey

i had the same problem...but the thing is, you can't get a passport either without a form of id. My local guards told me that i had to get a signed letter from my GP so proof of id so maybe try this and hope for the best.

You can get a passport without ID as long as you can satisfy the Garda as to your identity

hondasam wrote: »

He has his Birth cert and his photo, he needs another form of ID, bank a/c, pps number should do. It does not state it requires photo ID.

I could steal your birth cert and bring it in with my photo but that doesn't make me you.

bubblefett wrote: »

Op, you can apply online through here https://www.agecard.ie/terms.html
I think you still end up having to go into the Garda Station if memory serves but at least you'll have a print out saying what you have is fine.

It doesn't matter. No Garda will sign it unless they are satisifed as to his identity.

The purpose of the age card was for people who don't want to carry around their licence or passport for fear of losing them. That's why you are expected to have another form of ID already.

hondasam

MagicSean wrote: »

I could steal your birth cert and bring it in with my photo but that doesn't make me you.

This is true Sean but what are the chances of you stealing my birth cert, pps number with address on it, bank details with address on it, unless we were the same sex and age or close enough the birth cert would be useless.

Corruptedmorals

I really recommend just getting a passport. They last for 10 years once you hit 18. You might not be going anywhere right now, but in the next few years? You also generally have to produce one when you get a job anyway. By all means don't use it as ID if you don't trust yourself not to lose it. But you can then use it to get the garda ID with no hassle and use that for ID.

CaSCaDe711

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

Want it for gambling LOL

Unless they win, gambling is for losers

recyclebin

The same guard isn't going to sign his passport forms if he won't sign his age card form.

You will need to get someone that knows a guard to come in with you the next time to verify you are who you say you are. If you have any bank statements, pay slips, p60 or p45 bring them as well.

I know a guy that lost his licence and passport abroad. He lives in dublin but grew up in Kildare. He tried to get a replacement passport and licence in dublin but they wouldn't sign the forms for him. He had to go home to his fathers local garda station to get the bloody things signed.

Del2005

smash wrote: »

No passport, no driving license, no photo ID... You could be anyone ffs. No wonder the Garda won't accept a few bits of paper with a name on them.

But the OP is trying to get ID. The Garda won't accept the forms that where offered, which are all that's required according to the AgeCard Site.

MagicSean wrote: »

You can get a passport without ID as long as you can satisfy the Garda as to your identity

It doesn't matter. No Garda will sign it unless they are satisifed as to his identity.

You're saying that the OP is silly trying to apply for an Age Card without ID and should apply for a Passport.

With a view to preventing identity theft and the circulation of falsified passports, additional safeguards are being introduced into the passport application procedure for adult first time applicants and for those adults seeking to replace a lost/stolen passport. With effect from 17 January 2011, adult applicants in these categories will be required to submit the following additional evidence in support of their passport application:

a completed and suitably witnessed passport application form and four photographs, (two of which must have the application form number written on the reverse and be signed by an approved witness);
the long form birth certificate of the applicant and a civil marriage certificate, if appropriate, and evidence of entitlement to Irish citizenship ,where applicable;
additional form of photo-identification; e.g. certified copy of a drivers licence, work ID; student card; social club membership; passport from other country etc.;
documentary evidence to show use of name, e.g. payslips; records of unemployment or disability payment; bank statement; college registration etc.; and
evidence of residency at the application address, e.g. utility bills; official correspondence from public or private sector etc.

And the worst thing is that a Garda advised the OP to get a PP when they can't, they need the Age Card to get the PP.

Though they could apply for a learners permit

What your application or renewal should include

A completed application form ( D201), which can be obtained from your local Motor tax office, Library or Garda station.
Two passport-type photographs (signed on back)
Your current or most recent driving licence (if you hold a driving licence or held one within the previous 10 years) and/or:
your current/most recent learner permit (if you hold a current learner permit or held one within the previous five years – unless your most recent learner permit has been superseded by the issue of a driving licence)
The appropriate fee

The following may also be required:

An original birth certificate/passport
An original certificate of registration
An medical report D501 form (if your are downloading the Medical Report form you must print it back to back)
An eyesight D502 form
Evidence that you underwent a driving test in the last two years if applying for a third or subsequent learner permit
Evidence of a forthcoming driving test if applying for a third or subsequent learner permit and you havr not sat a driving set in the last two years
Lost licence declaration
Theory test certificate

MagicSean wrote: »

I could steal your birth cert and bring it in with my photo but that doesn't make me you.

But then the OP could just steal* the required stuff from MagicSean and get ID in their name, since drivers licences can be fully done through post. At least the Age Card requires someone who looks like the picture to front up to the Garda station.


* They don't even have to do this, they can just apply online and get MagicSean's long from Birthcert, which leads to a Drivers licence then they get a PassPort etc.

MagicSean wrote: »

The purpose of the age card was for people who don't want to carry around their licence or passport for fear of losing them. That's why you are expected to have another form of ID already.

No the purpose of the age card was to remove the loop hole where underage people where using are easily forged Drivers licences/permits for ID purposes, since you rightly pointed out PPs are too valuable to carry on the p!ss. So our wise leaders decided to introduce a low cost, hard to forge ID for people young people.

MagicSean

recyclebin wrote: »

The same guard isn't going to sign his passport forms if he won't sign his age card form.

He will if he knows him and is satisfied as to his identity.

Del2005 wrote: »

But the OP is trying to get ID. The Garda won't accept the forms that where offered, which are all that's required according to the AgeCard Site.

No. You also need a form of photo ID. It says it on the site

• Your Birth Certificate or your GNIB (Garda National Immigration Bureau) Card or your valid Passport (in date)
• One other form of ID

Del2005 wrote: »

You're saying that the OP is silly trying to apply for an Age Card without ID and should apply for a Passport.



And the worst thing is that a Garda advised the OP to get a PP when they can't, they need the Age Card to get the PP.

Are you even reading the stuff you are posting. That requirement for photo ID is only for adults that have never had a passport or claim theirs was lost or stolen. And it says nothing about an age card, it allows all photo Id including work and student ID.

Del2005 wrote: »

But then the OP could just steal* the required stuff from MagicSean and get ID in their name, since drivers licences can be fully done through post. At least the Age Card requires someone who looks like the picture to front up to the Garda station.

You must have a theroy test completed to apply for a driving licence and the theory test has it's own requirements for photos and ID. But you are correct, it is technically possible to get a learners permit without producing any form of photo ID.

Del2005 wrote: »

* They don't even have to do this, they can just apply online and get MagicSean's long from Birthcert, which leads to a Drivers licence then they get a PassPort etc.

Again you are correct, if someone knows all the details of your birth it would seem they can apply for a birth cert followed by a theroy test and then a licence in your name. But in order to receive those items they will have to provide both their photo and address and credit card details so it's a risky venture.

Del2005 wrote: »

No the purpose of the age card was to remove the loop hole where underage people where using are easily forged Drivers licences/permits for ID purposes, since you rightly pointed out PPs are too valuable to carry on the p!ss. So our wise leaders decided to introduce a low cost, hard to forge ID for people young people.