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Ok, OP here and I have to take issue with some of the earlier comments. I'm not defending the game, although it isn't as bad as some of the reviews and the nerdraging are making out. Ok, it's bad but it's not as soul destroying as some commentors make out.
The first bad decision the devs of this game made was marketing it towards adults and SW nerds. They should never have unveiled it at E3 and they should have only advertised it on kids tv because it's only a kids game, from start to finish.ShadowHearth wrote: »It might be something fun for kids, but do kids of this generations even interested in Starwars or even know wtf it is?
In my opinion Starwars as franchise is only viable for older generation who love SW as nostalgia trip or just generally SW nerds. This game shoots in to some non existent space.
* I know there are kids who know what Starwars are, but let's be honest, not many of them out there.
You obviously have never seen the Clone Wars TV show, never noticed the Star Wars stuff taking up half the Lego sections in toy shops nor the entire aisle that the likes of Smyths devote to Star Wars. It's huge. Every kid I know loves it and most are obsessed by it.Won't stop LucasArts from pushing in that direction though. Did you see this monstrosity?
Snip Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace-Kids Trailer
That trailer is clearly marked 'Kids Trailer', in fairness and I suspect that it aired in the states during Clone Wars ad breaks. It's not for you so I don't understand why you are annoyed by it? Should they not market the movie towards kids?We only got our review copy yesterday. Thankfull, I don't have a Kinect so it has fallen to another to take on that burden. I also hate that some writers are cutting it slack because "it's a kids game". Kids like quality too so we shouldn't accept slop like this being doled out to them to make some quick money. Kids are capable of doing far, far more complex things than most developers seem to give them credit for.
You make a valid point about sloppy games being pushed on kids but again, I think you are coming at this from an adult's point of view. What we see as a poorly designed game is sometimes from a kids point of view, something that guides them through the complexities of the game and makes it a bit easier to deal with. I'm not advocating dumbing games down, mind - kids are capable of understand quite complex stuff but sometimes, when it comes to games, they just want to switch off and blow stuff up. Not everything aimed at kids needs to be educational.
This game cost me €45. I would have preferred to have paid €20 for it in a few months but a promise is a promise and I got it today. It isn't the first time I paid for something expensive that I don't 'get' but my kids love and nor will it be the last. I will get my money's worth from this because the kids will play it to death. To be honest, I'm knackered right now because I spent 3 hours this evening playing this with my 5 year old son. He adored every second of it and went to bed with a beaming smile on his face because he got to be a Jedi for a few hours. And that is good enough for me.0 -
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No, I don't because The Phantom Menace is not a kids movie. The first Plinkett review actually does a great job of explaining why. If a movie truly has universal appeal, and many do, then they shouldn't need specific trailers to target specific demographics.That trailer is clearly marked 'Kids Trailer', in fairness and I suspect that it aired in the states during Clone Wars ad breaks. It's not for you so I don't understand why you are annoyed by it? Should they not market the movie towards kids?
As a side note, I have no problem with the likes of the Clone Wars show, well at least the Genndy Tartakovsky's 2003 mini-series which was absolutely brilliant.
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No, I don't because The Phantom Menace is not a kids movie. The first Plinkett review actually does a great job of explaining why. If a movie truly has universal appeal, and many do, then they shouldn't need specific trailers to target specific demographics.
As a side note, I have no problem with the likes of the Clone Wars show, well at least the Genndy Tartakovsky's 2003 mini-series which was absolutely brilliant.
I think you are over analysing things. The real reason why there is a kid specific trailer is because The Phantom Menace has a PG rating so many parents won't bring their kids to see it. Lucasfilm wants to target these kids so that is why there is a trailer for them. It's not a conspiracy, it's not to insult SW nerds and it's not to destroy older Star Wars fans' memory of the first trilogy. It's only the marketing dept of Lucasfilm trying to get more bums on seats at the cinema.
With all that out of the way, why is The Phantom Menace not a kids movie? What makes it unsuitable for children? It has a PG rating, which to my mind means that if a parent thinks the kid won't be freaked out by what's in the movie then let them see it. I base my judgement of things on what I see in real life, not what I read about on the internet and what I see in real life are kids enjoying a movie that wasn't necessarily designed for them or for adults. It does have true universal appeal but it has a PG rating so there are some parents who won't allow their kids to see it.0 -
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a SW fan in the slightest and while I don't like the prequel movies, they in no way diminish my love for the originals. But as I said above, and as you said yourself in the bolded part, that's my issue with it.I think you are over analysing things. The real reason why there is a kid specific trailer is because The Phantom Menace has a PG rating so many parents won't bring their kids to see it. Lucasfilm wants to target these kids so that is why there is a trailer for them. It's not a conspiracy, it's not to insult SW nerds and it's not to destroy older Star Wars fans' memory of the first trilogy. It's only the marketing dept of Lucasfilm trying to get more bums on seats at the cinema.
I don't think it's unsuitable for kids, I just don't think it's a kids movie therefore it shouldn't need a trailer specifically aimed at them. As I said, watch the Plinkett review here and hilarity aside, pay attention to the bit where he talks about how it's not a kids movie.With all that out of the way, why is The Phantom Menace not a kids movie? What makes it unsuitable for children? It has a PG rating, which to my mind means that if a parent thinks the kid won't be freaked out by what's in the movie then let them see it. I base my judgement of things on what I see in real life, not what I read about on the internet and what I see in real life are kids enjoying a movie that wasn't necessarily designed for them or for adults. It does have true universal appeal but it has a PG rating so there are some parents who won't allow their kids to see it. 0 -
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As I said, watch the Plinkett review here and hilarity aside, pay attention to the bit where he talks about how it's not a kids movie.
With all due respect Gizmo, while I enjoyed our debate and I'm interested in your points, instead of watching those clips I'd rather spend the time playing Skyrim.
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Jedi Knight
Jedi Outcast
Jedi Academy
Force Unleashed
Didnt think any of them were any use
KOTOR is brilliant forgot about that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_video_games
Anyone want to count the games on that list?
We may have a possible 9 that people think are actually good. 0 -
I count at least 24 games which range from good to fantastic. I guess it'll depend on what age you are as to which ones you include.dreamers75 wrote: »Didnt think any of them were any use
KOTOR is brilliant forgot about that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_video_games
Anyone want to count the games on that list? We may have a possible 9 that people think are actually good. 0 -
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TIE Fighter is the greatest thing to have been produced in the history of ever.
... so bad it's funny?0 -
There are plenty of good star wars games but X-Wing Alliance is my favourite. Had a good story and you actually felt like you were a pilot for the rebels......with just flying missions. No stupid walking around section, no fetch quests, no NPC talk-a-thons......just flying. And it was superb.
Ofcourse it had its faults. Only one death animation for every craft was a biggie. Every fighter died the way that Tie fighter does when it hits the asteroid in Empire strikes back. Blue sparks...spins around a bit...then explode. That got old. And there wasn't enough space debris so the feeling of speed was lacking.
Still a brilliant game though. I'll have to replay it soon. 0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvAG2D7SvCo
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