Something Strange

SamSam6

I have often read posts here and I must be honest I've often sniggered or laughed as I read through them and I always just read posts purely for entertainment and nothing else. Now, I am a little in shock after I an experience I just had. Please excuse me for changing the name and location but I'm still not sure what happened or even if I'm really typing this at all.

I went into town earlier, I had an appointment at 2.45pm in the council offices. I was after parking the car and I was making my way to the entrance of the building, It was 2.30 and I was going to get a car tax renewal form before my meeting when I heard my name being called out behind me. I turned around to see JohnJoe Walsh, who seemed to have pulled up in his car jumped out and was leaning over the roof at the drivers door to call me. The entrance to the council offices has a large paved open area in front of it and I was about 30feet away from him, but I couldn't mistake him. He called me again, this time waving his hand in a 'come here' motion over the roof of the car as well. He said 'Sam I have a message for you' but I was rooted to the spot. We buried JohnJoe Walsh 5 years ago, I was at his funeral, I know his daughter very well, I was in his house several times since he died, I don't understand this one little bit.

I can't have mistaken him, I'd know his voice anywhere, I know it was him, it was even the same old grey Toyota Carina of his, there isn't anyone else like him. It was him.

I turned around and walked the rest of the way into the offices, I don't remember much of my meeting but I did go to it, I have some leaflets here I must have been given them at the bloody meeting, I even have my car tax renewal form so I must have gone and picked that up too.

My heart was in my throat coming to the doors on the way out but there was no JohnJoe there. I thought about going to the chapel or the priest, but what would I say, I haven't been to mass in 10 years. I thought about going to his family but I know they would get me locked up. I'm shivering here with the cold and I'm sweating at the thought of what happened.

Am I going insane? is there a rational explanation?

FANTAPANTS

weirdest thing i have ever heard!!!!!

Friel

You're by no means going insane, this happens people alot, but yours is in very clear detail. How long did it last? When you turned away from him did you not look back at all?

You could talk to a priest, definitely. But I'd even check CCTV, there's bound to be some if it's a council office. It would put your mind at ease. If you seen all this in really clear detail like he was actually there, it's quite extraordinary.

padma

What was the message? Seeing as he was driving his car, and you were renewing the tax on your car, spooky

maccored

thats a weird one alright

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Look I have to be honest here, after a recent experience with a troll. Hope you don't mind me asking, are you serious?

A similar thing happened to a colleague of mine, and he's as sober minded/level headed/sceptical as you can get.

A recently deceased friend appeared to my colleague at the side of a road, to deliver a message that he (the deceased) was in trouble.

It was later found that he had left significant and unknown financial problems, which were sorted as result.

Man, you must be in shock..

SamSam6

Thank you for replying. I am still cold with shock, I'm trying to put it out of my mind but it's hard, I finally got to sleep at about 5am. I never gave this type of thing any second thoughts, I'm happy in my life long beliefs that what you see is what you get and when you close your eyes for the final time, that's it. Now I'm faced with having to re-evaluate all that, if what I saw is real.

I've decided I'm going to my GP today for a full check up, I haven't been able to tell anyone yet outside of posting it here. People are going to have a field day laughing at me, I know it.

Damn him and his message, couldn't he choose someone else to deliver it, I guess he'll have to now as I didn't get it.

You know the really frightening part of it all is that part of me is hoping the doctor will find a brain tumour or something, mad eh!

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Good luck with that. Have you spoken to his daughter about this?

Have you had any stressful or traumatic incidents happening to you recently?

jaspertheghost

you should have stayed and listened to his message...maybe it was how to get cheaper tax!! ah no your not crazy this happens to a lot of people...were you thinkin of him recently?? have you any unfinished buisness with him??

Friel

SamSam6 wrote: »

Thank you for replying. I am still cold with shock, I'm trying to put it out of my mind but it's hard, I finally got to sleep at about 5am. I never gave this type of thing any second thoughts, I'm happy in my life long beliefs that what you see is what you get and when you close your eyes for the final time, that's it. Now I'm faced with having to re-evaluate all that, if what I saw is real.

I've decided I'm going to my GP today for a full check up, I haven't been able to tell anyone yet outside of posting it here. People are going to have a field day laughing at me, I know it.

Damn him and his message, couldn't he choose someone else to deliver it, I guess he'll have to now as I didn't get it.

You know the really frightening part of it all is that part of me is hoping the doctor will find a brain tumour or something, mad eh!

A brain tumour, really? I realise you're freaking out, but hoping it's cancer is abit of an over-reaction.

You've made me start to doubt you now.

MrMojoRisin

jaspertheghost wrote: »

you should have stayed and listened to his message...maybe it was how to get cheaper tax!!

Lol! :pac:

MrMojoRisin

Well, SamSam6, I have to admit that the jury's still out for me on whether you're being serious about this, or not. I don't mean that I don't think you're being serious because the story is daft and unbelievable, but because this forum has often hosted some pranksters in the past.

We had a chap posting on here not too long ago about seeing the ghost of a young woman in a hotel room ceiling abroad, before later getting his leg over her, and saying he thought he was descending into the dark underworld, or something. Christ, it was so convoluted, I don't think I'm even describing it correctly. Anyway, we soon figured out he was only taking the p!ss because someone found he had posted that identical story under a different name on another site. The boy who cried wolf.. :rolleyes:

Regardless, I have known people who have seen either recently deceased or long-deceased family members or friends in broad daylight. I once worked with a woman who saw her recently deceased grandmother - a few weeks beforehand, I think - standing in the middle of a road right in front of her as she was cycling along one morning.

Apparently she looked alive, like a flesh-and-blood person, and it was only when she came within about two feet of her that she saw her grandmother literally disappear before her. Funnily enough, she wasn't shaken or disturbed by the experience at all - she didn't mention falling off her bike, for one - which was probably because she had been very fond of her grandmother.

Many people have experiences similar to your (alleged) experience. It doesn't mean a person is going mad, or has a brain tumour - normal life goes on as before if you allow it to. If you think you're losing your mind, well, that can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Take a chill pill.

Oh, and I've found that some priests are useless when it comes to dispensing advice or pearls of wisdom about the paranormal, simply because they don't believe in anything paranormal. I was talking to a priest a few years ago, and I mentioned ghosts and the possibility of soul survival to him, and he was fiercely adamant that all of it was impossible. I did point out that it says in that bible of his that Jesus was resurrected, that Moses had a conversation with a burning bush at the foot of a mountain, and that Jesus bilocated (appeared in two locations simultaneously), but he just said that was "different." Idiot.

SamSam6

Cheaper tax! that's actually very funny. When I told the doctor he asked if I got any tips for Cheltenham! he also said it was nothing to worry about, just if it happened again to go back to him and he gave me a card of tabs to take two at a time to help me sleep, he also said he would refer me to a specialist in a fortnight.

I didn't feel right telling him anyway, and the tablets are in the bin, I don't take them needlessly.

There's no need to wonder if this is going to get convoluted, or if I'm going to 'get off' with a ghost. I just popped in to say thanks to everyone, believe it or not having someone take the time to write a response is settling, I do appreciate it. Of all the posts I read here over the last year I missed the one you are referring to MrMojoRisin, I would have enjoyed that too.

As to my strange experience, what can I say, it was very very real to me. I haven't told anyone but the GP and posted it here, and as I said I altered the name. The comment about the tumour was just to show what fleeting thoughts were entering my head, of course I don't wish I or anyone else had cancer, there are far too many people being taken by that scourge.

Thanks again for all your comments.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

SamSam6. GP's dispensing medication in the surgery?

screamer

You know something, I believe you, check out that there is no medical reasons for what you saw, checking the CCTV footage would be great, but can you get hold of it?

Janedoe10

God that is wierd . I would try and check out if u can get CCTV as well . Just to be rational about it . U might need another reason for them to check for u though . I doubt if 'i thought I saw a ghost ' would cut it . May be the guy needs a mass said ? It could be around his anniversary ?

EdenHazard

not a chance this is real. think about it, something like this would change how humans completely comprehend life, the chances of some randomer on boards having this experience is virtually nil. its not that i dont believe in paranormal it's just this is too obvious.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

EdenHazard wrote: »

not a chance this is real. think about it, something like this would change how humans completely comprehend life, the chances of some randomer on boards having this experience is virtually nil. its not that i dont believe in paranormal it's just this is too obvious.

I have to agree. Does anyone know of GP's who hand out medication in the surgery? Ok, might be wording, but a Gp refers a patient immediately, not in 2 weeks time. Ok maybe the appointment was in 2 weeks time. But Doesn't ring true

The dramatic narrative was also written with the "gasp, wait for it punchline" right at the end. rather like a ghostly fairytale, which I tend to believe it is.

screamer

MY GP hands out medication in the surgery to certain patients, you should look up what a dispensary is.... and, it proves that just because one has no experience of something, does not mean it does not exist, or is untrue, paranormal aside. I still believe that the OP really believes what they saw to be true. The only question is, whether it was paranormal, or as the OP even wonders, something imaginary with a medical reason, even stress.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Psychotic medication I'm presuming? For a first referral? Seems a bit reckless and unprofessional to me.

You are entitled to your opinion Screamer, and I to mine.

maccored

so we give out about people ridiculing those with experiences and yet its fine to say someone is lying?

The OP may or may not be telling the truth .... its not up to us to decide.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

maccored wrote: »

so we give out about people ridiculing those with experiences and yet its fine to say someone is lying?

The OP may or may not be telling the truth .... its not up to us to decide.

Its not up to us to decide? So we say nothing? I presume you consider it OK to have an opinion?

Look I'm not coming on boards to lock horns with anyone, however it does appear, (from numerous threads) that quite a few members relish getting into (ankle-biting) debate with others on matters which are peripheral to the subject in question.

And so on that note, I have nothing further to add on this thread.

screamer

Psychotic medication I'm presuming?

what exactly are you implying?

maccored

Obviously its OK to have an opinion .. though its best for us all to make it clear it is only our own opinions, otherwise we're as bad as the cynics.

Yeah Yeah Yeah wrote: »

Its not up to us to decide? So we say nothing? I presume you consider it OK to have an opinion?

Look I'm not coming on boards to lock horns with anyone, however it does appear, (from numerous threads) that quite a few members relish getting into (ankle-biting) debate with others on matters which are peripheral to the subject in question.

And so on that note, I have nothing further to add on this thread.

MrMojoRisin

Like screamer and JaneDoe said, the OP should go and get hold of the CCTV footage - if that's possible - if he's really that concerned about the experience. That's the sort of thing I'd do before posting on here about what happened and telling everyone that my doctor put me on medication as a result of what happened as well.

BTW, I agree that a reputable doctor should not provide a patient with a prescription for medication (anti-anxiety meds, like Valium??) almost immediately after they told him/her they saw a ghost. That's obviously very stupid and medically irresponsible.

Oh, Yeah Yeah Yeah mentioned that the doctor may have given the OP anti-psychotic meds - well, those do tend to be given to people who are experiencing psychosis but, in the OP's case (if, indeed the story is true), that is highly unlikely because a truly psychotic person would not be able to write cogently and coherently on an internet forum, for example.

Look, I know a person can be just as bad as a total sceptic by accusing the OP of lying (or, at least questioning the credibility of the story), as maccored said, but, personally, I don't like time, space on the forum, and energy being wasted on possible prank tales. The story itself is totally fine, as far as I'm concerned - I'm just trying to ascertain whether or not it's truthful.

If it seems like the OP is being genuine, well, you certainly won't find me calling them up on what they recounted; I'll give them my full attention and respect.

Speaking of respect, I can't help but be a bit suspicious of these posts where people declare from the offing, "Well, I was always someone who laughed at anyone who said they saw a ghost and I thought the paranormal was all a load of b0llocks. However, I am now a believer after seeing a big ghost on the road by my house..", etc.

It's like they need to make it crystal clear that they are former sceptics because, if you're going to sit down and write a story about how you saw a ghost for the craic, you'll think it'll look more believable when it's worded like that.

Personally, I'm not trying to be a pr!ck about this just for the sake of being a pr!ck, and I've already explained my reasons for questioning the OP's story.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

@Screamer: For the record, I was implying nothing, I was merely observing that the OP went to his GP after this "experience" and was prescribed medication as a result.

So whats he gonna be given? Paracetamol? I do not profess to be anyway medically experienced.


"The terms psychosis and psychotic are very broad and can mean anything from relatively normal aberrant experiences through to the florid and catatonic expressions....."

"Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality, typically including delusions (false ideas about what is taking place or who one is) and hallucinations (seeing or hearing things which aren´t there).

Thats me I'm done. Cherrio

MrMojoRisin

Yeah Yeah Yeah wrote: »

So whats he gonna be given? Paracetamol? I do not profess to be anyway medically experienced.

Lol. Or Alka Seltzer.

Yeah Yeah Yeah wrote: »

"The terms psychosis and psychotic are very broad and can mean anything from relatively normal aberrant experiences through to the florid and catatonic expressions....."

Definition of Psychosis:

Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality, typically including delusions (false ideas about what is taking place or who one is) and hallucinations (seeing or hearing things which aren´t there).

Hmm.. I suppose it's possible to have a psychotic episode but be able to function fine a few hours-one day later. Not suggesting the OP had one of those episodes at all though. Thinking aloud only..

Anyway, I don't think we'll ever know the absolute truth about all this.

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Some things are better not known eh !

Gal44

Interesting story.. was the CCTV checked out?

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Gal44, err...I think thats all it was "a story".

kickarykee

If this really happened it's the most interesting thing I've ever read on this topic here - if not, no idea why you wrote it.
But anyway, I think things like this could very well happen - why not?
We neither know what comes after nor do we know what our brains can make up - or are making up, in fact, of all the things we think we "perceive"...