New Tesco coming to Swords R125

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celticbest wrote: »

Just to clarify, is the Tesco proposed for the following spot?

From the application this is where I read it to be.

Isn't that a floodplain?

Meesared

A floodplain for what river? Theres no rivers or lakes anywhere nearby

Beasty

Meesared wrote: »

Not sure how you get to clare hall in 10 mins, takes me 15-20 depending on traffic

HB Dennis on Airside to Clare Hall takes me 15 mins (on a bike )

Meesared

Never got to Clare Hall in less than 15 mins myself

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Meesared wrote: »

A floodplain for what river? Theres no rivers or lakes anywhere nearby

It does be prone to flooding and there is a small river. The agricultural land where Hollywell was built on was also prone to flooding. There are also two lakes for the wildlife that can be entered from the green amenity area, but I think they are man made. There also seems to be flooding from heavy rainfall at the first roundabout going in to Hollywell, and there was series flooding in Hollywell just after the estate opened up....if you look at the walls going from that roundabout up towards the new school you'll stukk see the watermark on some of the walls.

Stheno

Meesared wrote: »

Never got to Clare Hall in less than 15 mins myself

I'd be about that from Rathbeale Road, less than it takes to get into Pavillions most Sundays!

Kumsheen

Well something is going to be built in that field at some stage, whether it's a Tesco or not. There is no way they will leave it an empty field.

peteb2

Kumsheen wrote: »

Well something is going to be built in that field at some stage, whether it's a Tesco or not. There is no way they will leave it an empty field.

Why not? Its been empty for the last 20 years?

Kumsheen

peteb2 wrote: »

Why not? Its been empty for the last 20 years?

That's not much of a reason.

The Airside / Holywell area is zoned for development so i'd expect something to go in that field at some stage, once a potential occupier is sought.

Faolchu

Meesared wrote: »

A floodplain for what river? Theres no rivers or lakes anywhere nearby

there was a diverted river down by the M1 called the Gaybrook (i think), its now underground and i believe feeds into the Malahide estaury. it also ran through holywell at one point. Holywell way is now prone to continual flooding something the council have been aware of for years

celticbest wrote: »

The plus side is that the employment created both while building and then when the store is opened would be a major boost to the area.

what about the employment lost in the local store in holywell and kinsealy due to a supermarket gone in? not counting the smaller retail hardware stores that have already been effected by woodies/B&Q. tesco also carries a small hardware section and alos an electrical section. this will impact the existing small suppliers in the greater swords area. its not as simple as new shopping centre = more jobs for area, yes it does but it also means that other businesses face closure due to its existance.

someone mentioned that clarehall isnt on any public transport or that the 43 isnt convenient. not its not but this center wont be on a transport link either unless you count the swords express which is pretty expensive to my knowledge.

Faolchu

Kumsheen wrote: »

That's not much of a reason.

The Airside / Holywell area is zoned for development so i'd expect something to go in that field at some stage, once a potential occupier is sought.

i thought that area was zoned Scientific and technology. least it was when i last looked at teh planns or maybe thats further up

Kumsheen

Faolchu wrote: »

i thought that area was zoned Scientific and technology. least it was when i last looked at teh planns or maybe thats further up

You are correct. It's zoned for Office and Technology. All i'm saying is that something will go into that field at some stage.

It wont stay a field forever.

Realistically it's probably going to end up with a retail unit(s) of some sort.

peteb2

Kumsheen wrote: »

That's not much of a reason.

The Airside / Holywell area is zoned for development so i'd expect something to go in that field at some stage, once a potential occupier is sought.

The only way I will be happy to see anything go in that land is if the current owner sells it to someone else to build on.

Lollipops23

I live in the side of Holywell the Tesco will be going up at, and I'm pretty happy about it. At the min I get my shopping delivered, as it's a major time saver. I'll defo be getting stuff there if it opens.

The only issue is traffic; I already have a hard time with the noise of road traffic late at night and early in the morning, so it'll be ten times worse when Tesco opens.

peteb2

With that in mind, why would you be happy to see it going in so?

Lollipops23

peteb2 wrote: »

With that in mind, why would you be happy to see it going in so?

Because there's a shocking lack of amenities in the immediate area of Holywell if you don't drive. The only thing is spar, and it's a pretty mediocre on to be honest. Never stocked consistently I find. If they perhaps manage the traffic properly, it might be ok (not sure how they'd do that though).

peteb2

Please!! This goes back to a point made earlier on. If you have no car, are you seriously going to walk back from Tesco's with all your shopping? How are you intending on doing that? Removing a trolley illegally from the premises?

Kumsheen

peteb2 wrote: »

Please!! This goes back to a point made earlier on. If you have no car, are you seriously going to walk back from Tesco's with all your shopping? How are you intending on doing that? Removing a trolley illegally from the premises?

Well, if you only live next door then you can probably drop in more often. You don't need to do a weekly shop in one go.

I normally use the bike to shop as i prefer to avoid the parking/traffic/damage hassles, i do have to use the car sometimes when i need to get some really heavy stuff though.

peteb2

so if you are on the bike Dunnes is in easy reach.

celticbest

celticbest wrote: »

That's me signing off until the 15.01.2013 when a decision is due to be made by An Bord Pleanála. (Hopefully the right one is made and work can begin ASAP in the New Year)

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/241043.htm

D-Day, application not updated yet

peteb2

Looking good so!

celticbest

peteb2 wrote: »

Looking good so!

peteb2

looking good for a NO!

celticbest

peteb2 wrote: »

looking good for a NO!

Why?

The Hill Billy

celticbest wrote: »

peteb2 wrote:

looking good for a NO!

Why?

Let's not re-hash the old arguments that have already litter this thread.

tHB

celticbest

Decision delayed until the 12th of March....

coconutpie

Has been passed by the Board now according to FCC's website

On 14-Aug-2012, a decision GRANT PERMISSION was made by Fingal County Council on this application. Subsequently, an appeal was lodged on 03-Sep-2012 and a decision to Grant Permission was made by An Bord Pleanala on 13-Feb-2013.

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pinkypinky

Very disappointed to hear that...without wishing to rehash all the same well-worn arguments in this thread.

peteb2

Well there goes the neighbourhood.

Slow clap for An Bord Pleanalla for putting the final nail in the coffin to the main street in Swords, for allowing David Daly to now commence another development where he has not rectified problems within the estate and ford creating a bigger traffic problem before the ring road goes in. Oh but wait the paid reports say that traffic wouldn't increase. Because sure people would just be passing by anyway and wouldnt go out of their way to go shopping there. I'm always just passing Aldi in Santry as opposed to driving there to get my shopping because its cheaper!!

And you know what will happen? The development will be half completed and then Fingal Co Co will realise that althought permission was granted that Nucleus only owned part of the land and they don't own where the carparking will be. And that'll probably take about another 7 years to sort!!

Don't worry mods I'll get my jacket and close the door behind me on the way out!

Meesared

Eh I'd be happy to see it, I live in Holywell, and having a Tesco nearby would be very convenient!