boy bullied out of school over accent?

goodie2shoes

Parents of a 10-year-old boy claim he has been bullied out of school due to racial taunting over his accent.
The boy was injured and regularly reduced to tears because of bullying on the premises. He has also been subjected to cyber-bullying The family moved from South Africa to Kells, Co Meath, in 2010.

His parents took him out of the school after the board of management failed to act to deal with the incidents outside the school.

Gerry Dalton said he had now taken his son out of St Colmcille’s National School for his own protection.

The school declined to comment on the issue
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Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/boy-10-bullied-out-of-school-over-accent-188605.html#ixzz1qzGzSyY7

Sykk

So what's your opinion?

MonkeyTennis

Ive never met a nice South African

thecommietommy

It's terrible. I remember when a new lad came to school, if he was say, American or German or Dutch it was bad enough, but if he came from England, say no more.

thecommietommy

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

You mustn't get out much. Not wrong with women of Dutch extraction

The King of Moo

Poor kid. The sad thing is, I'm sure some of the kids involved weren't completely horrible; it's just very easy for them to get caught up with the group and do nasty things they wouldn't normally, and things escalate from there.
Kid has a different accent; a few kids make fun of it and normally it'd end there, but sometimes for no particular reason it turns into a much bigger deal.

Also, it's not exactly fair to say no South Africans are nice. Apart from the obvious generalisation, it's a bit unfair to lump a ten-year old boy in with that, and at least partially blame him for being bullied.

mikemac1

Meath people are in no position to judge others accents

summerskin

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

...and that's not bloody surprising man.

Nodin

children can be cruel little shites in their own way.

goodie2shoes

was the boy a white or a black South African do you think?

MonkeyTennis

thecommietommy wrote: »

You mustn't get out much. Not wrong with women of Dutch extraction

its the title of a song akshally

pickarooney

Just how much mileage can you get out of mocking someone's accent? And physically abusing the kid - Jesus.

Although I don't think I'm the only one who's being saying 'diplometik immunuteae' over and over since reading the OP.

Nodin

goodie2shoes wrote: »

was the boy a white or a black South African do you think?

What fucking odds does that make?

fishy fishy

pickarooney wrote: »

Just how much mileage can you get out of mocking someone's accent? And physically abusing the kid - Jesus.

Although I don't think I'm the only one who's being saying 'diplometik immunuteae' over and over since reading the OP.

winds neck
"it's just been revoked"
bang :D

hondasam

Here is the blog
http://threelittledogs.blogspot.com/2012/03/parents-go-public-on-bullying-of-child.html

To whom it may concern,

We wish to bring to your attention the following sequence of disturbing events to which our family and especially our youngest son have been subjected in recent months in Kells. Co Meath, Ireland. What will emerge below is a damning indictment of racial and xenophobic intolerance in modern Ireland.

By way of background, we relocated to Ireland in June 2010 from South Africa following a brutal family murder and ongoing violence in South African society. Gerard is an Irish citizen who lived in SA for several years, his wife and children are born and bred South Africans.
Below is a sequence of events to date:

-Sept 2011 - Son starts at new school, having experienced racial bullying at previous school (very small rural school in Co Meath, Ireland)

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hondasam

goodie2shoes wrote: »

was the boy a white or a black South African do you think?

I think he is white, not that it should matter.

@ keith, sorry forgot.

44leto

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

There are 2 traditions of white south african the Dutch and the English, the Dutch tend to be very forward, a tad extreme but the English tradition are sound. But like everywhere else there is good and bad.

But one thing I would say, I love the South African accent it is so rich. I like it a lot better then the Meath accent.

pickarooney

Nodin wrote: »

What fucking odds does that make?

It would influence is fucking accent I imagine. Probably not too much of a stretch to say white with a name like Dalton. Most likely not an Afrikaner accent either. They probably thought he was English.

Slippin Jimmy

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

How many have you met? Doesn't give dickheads a reason to bully the kid.

AEDIC

'Gardaí are aware of the case, but cannot take action as the alleged bullies are under 12 and below the age of criminal responsibility.'

ermmm, the parents arent though.... charge those feckers for not controlling the bullying little ****es.

Slippin Jimmy

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

How many have you met? Doesn't give dickheads a reason to bully the kid.

AEDIC

pickarooney wrote: »

It would influence is fucking accent I imagine. Probably not too much of a stretch to say white with a name like Dalton. Most likely not an Afrikaner accent either. They probably thought he was English.

yes because white South African sounds exactly like English..... :rolleyes:

goodie2shoes

Truly shocking.
How can parents rare such little animals.

I would be so horrified if my child did anything like that to another child.

Nodin

pickarooney wrote: »

It would influence is fucking accent I imagine. Probably not too much of a stretch to say white with a name like Dalton. Most likely not an Afrikaner accent either. They probably thought he was English.

He'd have an "accent" regardless of what colour he was.

This is from their blog - doesn't sound like 'Brits out' to me.
"What came out then was the fact that these boys and others have been racially abusing our son for months, calling him a “F**king foreigner” and mocking and imitating his accent. "

Dyr

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

thets not bloody seprising man

hondasam

AEDIC wrote: »

yes because white South African sounds exactly like English..... :rolleyes:

Yes they do, it's very similar to the English accent.

BostonB

A society is measured by how it treats its most vulnerable.
As such I think this is a reflection of Irish society in general, where the perpetrators are more protected than their victims.

goodie2shoes

Nodin wrote: »

He'd have an "accent" regardless of what colour he was.

This is from their blog - doesn't sound like 'Brits out' to me.
"What came out then was the fact that these boys and others have been racially abusing our son for months, calling him a “F**king foreigner” and mocking and imitating his accent. "

my guess is they are white, because if they were black it would have created such an awful stink, the principal would have stepped in before it got out of hand.

Nodin

goodie2shoes wrote: »

my guess is they are white, because if they were black it would have created such an awful stink, the principal would have stepped in before it got out of hand.

I was wondering why you started the thread....it's some stab at a "rights for whites" effort, isn't it?

forfuxsake

goodie2shoes wrote: »

my guess is they are white, because if they were black it would have created such an awful stink, the principal would have stepped in before it got out of hand.

so racist:rolleyes:

Slippin Jimmy

goodie2shoes wrote: »

my guess is they are white, because if they were black it would have created such an awful stink, the principal would have stepped in before it got out of hand.

Your no better than the bully's.

cocoshovel

Im not surprised at all. This would nearly happen in any Irish school I imagine.

44leto

If I was the parents of any of those kids who bullied that young lad, they would be frog marched up to apologuise and grounded for a month. Cnuts.

goodie2shoes

cocoshovel wrote: »

Im not surprised at all. This would nearly happen in any Irish school I imagine.

maybe where you live?

RichieC

wrong thread again... have to stop have 1k tabs open..

Loomis

I read this and the blog the other day and couldn't believe it.

I moved to Kells and to that school when I was 10 from Dublin. It was just before the housing boom started where half of Dublin moved to the surrounding counties to live so I was practically the only Dub in the town. I was easily identifiable as 'the lad from Dublin' in the school. The accent was obvious but no one gave me any grief over it. Does the fact he's from a different country make it so different from my situation? Or rather, should it?

I'm disgusted with the accounts of the people doing nothing to help. Especially the principal. I'd be interested to know if it's the same principal as was there when I attended. I'd be even more shocked if that was the case cause the guy was an especially lovely guy.

AEDIC

hondasam wrote: »

Yes they do, it's very similar to the English accent.

`
it absolutely isnt.... and which English accent... London, Cornish, Liverpool, Newcastle...

Ronnie Binge

thecommietommy wrote: »

It's terrible. I remember when a new lad came to school, if he was say, American or German or Dutch it was bad enough, but if he came from England, say no more.

Back in the early 1970s that was certainly the case. Shame that there are still retarded little bastards at that game and that they get away with it.

kylith

I can understand the school's position, they can't police what happens after hours.

The parents need to man up and visit the bullies' families though.

goodie2shoes

44leto wrote: »

If I was the parents of any of those kids who bullied that young lad, they would be frog marched up to apologuise and grounded for a month. Cnuts.

sadly some don't seem to mind.
some even take a perverted pride in this type of behaviour.
some encourage their little feral offspring to bully other kids.

GaryIrv93

The problem is though the principal of the school (as well as the Guards) might not be paying enough attention due to bullying being so common - it happens to almost every kid at some stage. So it's easy for them to say ''Just tell your kid to ignore them and they'll stop'' They'll assume it's just a part of everyday school and growing up, and might have also seen a million other bullying cases before - making it hard to pay so much attention to just one.

The same thing happened to an Irish teenager who moved to Boston - Phoebe Prince. She was apparently bullied due to being an immigrant, because she was Irish, her accent, along with all the other BS. She and her aunt who lived in the area contacted the school principal many times, and nothing was done. The principal simply brushed it off and assumed it was just part of everyday school life - and told her to ignore her bullies and it would stop. But it got so bad in the end the kid committed suicide. Only then was bullying actually taken seriously in that school... Typical

BostonB

kylith wrote: »

I can understand the school's position, they can't police what happens after hours...

Seem like that they are unwilling to police what happens in schools hours.

cocoshovel

goodie2shoes wrote: »

maybe where you live?

yeah, probably.

the purple tin

The King of Moo wrote: »

Poor kid. The sad thing is, I'm sure some of the kids involved weren't completely horrible; it's just very easy for them to get caught up with the group and do nasty things they wouldn't normally, and things escalate from there.
Kid has a different accent; a few kids make fun of it and normally it'd end there, but sometimes for no particular reason it turns into a much bigger deal.

Also, it's not exactly fair to say no South Africans are nice. Apart from the obvious generalisation, it's a bit unfair to lump a ten-year old boy in with that, and at least partially blame him for being bullied.

There's always one little prick who is the ringleader in any gang of school bullies.
He usually grows up to be the prick that will attack an innocent passer-by(as long as he has his 2 or 3 friends with him)

pragmatic1

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Ive never met a nice South African

Could be nice ones out there but any I've met were highly abrasive.

The King of Moo

the purple tin wrote: »

There's always one little prick who is the ringleader in any gang of school bullies.
He usually grows up to be the prick that will attack an innocent passer-by(as long as he has his 2 or 3 friends with him)

That's the problem. Sometimes it'll just be restricted to one gang of bullies, but sometimes it escalates and others get involved, the herd mentality takes over and things get out of hand.

goodie2shoes

The principal of that schools should be made accountable/answerable.
He/she has a duty of care to that child.

I bet if his salary/pension was docked, it would focus his attention a bit more.

Also the other parents haven't covered themselves in glory. What a cowardly bunch of morons.:mad:

Slippin Jimmy

the purple tin wrote: »

There's always one little prick who is the ringleader in any gang of school bullies.
He usually grows up to be the prick that will attack an innocent passer-by(as long as he has his 2 or 3 friends with him)

Best thing to do would be to beat the ****e out of the ring leader and that would put the rest of the vermon off bullying this young boy. Can they not make an example out of him an expell him from the school for what he does during "school hours."

Stiffler2

haters gonna hate.

What ever happened to stick & stones. I suppose in Modern Ireland the new saying is "Better not say that"


don't get me started on Social network or online bullying.
IMO the victim deserves it. Reason being they could simply block these bullies but obviously don't, one has to ask "Why" ?

obvious reason - they like it to a certain degree, after all it is a form of attention

goodie2shoes

Stiffler2 wrote: »

haters gonna hate.

What ever happened to stick & stones. I suppose in Modern Ireland the new saying is "Better not say that"


don't get me started on Social network or online bullying.
IMO the victim deserves it. Reason being they could simply block these bullies but obviously don't, one has to ask "Why" ?

obvious reason - they like it to a certain degree, after all it is a form of attention

DO NOT FEED!

hondasam

AEDIC wrote: »

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it absolutely isnt.... and which English accent... London, Cornish, Liverpool, Newcastle...

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=is%20the%20south%20african%20acccent%20like%20the%20english%20accent&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDUQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRegional_accents_of_English&ei=FhR7T9nTBs6YhQfTroBC&usg=AFQjCNG8xUFz61Tl71Mke0qxzEE1JKuXRA

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=south%20african%20accent&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSouth_African_English&ei=NxJ7T8O9JIfQhAf-vdh3&usg=AFQjCNEC8PmylFHDsMRvyR6Zbp_mWrIWFw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accents_of_English#South_Africa