Parents letting their children smoke

idunnoshur

Today I was filling up with petrol and I saw a woman with a boy aged about 14 in the car (I'm guessing it was her son) and the 2 of them were smoking away. I think it's a bit of a ****ing joke when parents let children this young smoke, my father just about let me smoke in front of him when I was 17 and I still can't smoke in front of the mother and I'm 21.

So at what age do you think children should be allowed to smoke or do you think that they shouldn't be allowed to smoke while living at home?


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WindSock

Maybe he was in his 20's but started smoking at 14...stunned growth and all that jazz(hands).

hairyprincess

I think it's more to with the fact that parents can't or won't chastise their kids for fear their little darlings might end up in therapy. I believe it's called turning a blind eye

Bazzo

I still don't smoke in front of my mother, years later. Although I don't smoke nearly as much now as I did when I was 18/19, it's really just a "when I'm drinking" thing these days.

On a more serious note: What were the crazy feckers doing smoking on a petrol station forecourt?!

recylingbin

Agreed. smoking near petrol causes death.

No way! Kids should not be allowed smoke til they can legally purchase cigarettes for themselves and by that time you would hope that any parent would have provided them with enough information as to the reasons not to smoke, that the child will decide not to smoke.
Of course it does not help that they are exposed to peer pressure outside of the home and in school where it would appear many schools turn a blind eye to pupils smoking.
Any shop found selling tobacco or alcohol to children should be forbidden from selling these products at all and incur massive penalties.

Chuck Stone

idunnoshur wrote: »

Today I was filling up with petrol and I saw a woman with a boy aged about 14 in the car (I'm guessing it was her son)

He may have been her son - he may not have been.

I'd imagine that type of thing is very rare these days. Also, I can't see a parent encouraging a child to smoke (here in Ireland at least) unless they are.. a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

token101

Parents who let their children smoke usually aren't the best parents really. They're usually the same who wouldn't chastise the child for f***ing around in school, coming in whenever they like and hanging around with other scrotes. Just parents who don't really give a sh*t and probably shouldn't have had kids.

Run_to_da_hills

When my old man first caught me smoking he said if I could afford the habit I could afford to pay house maintenance. I was on £20 a week as a 1st year apprentice at the time. (A pack of 20 fags was less than a quid )

boogle

I know a woman who has allowed her son to smoke since age 13 (and gives him cigarette money). When he was caught smoking at school she got a call from the Principal and she said to him that he's addicted and can't stop, and she's ok with him smoking at school. I saw him at the graveside at a family funeral smoking away (he was 14 at the time). I wanted to slap him and her.

Stained Class

I smoked in front of Class Sr when I was 21.

This was back in the '80s & I was on a short visit from working abroad.

Bearing in mind he was/is a very strict man, it was a severe risk.

On the day, we lit up together, content in the enjoyment of nicotine.

It was a rare moment of understanding between us..

tripe man

My mother let me smoke crack when I was 12.

She never let me eat nutella though.

Chuck Stone

It's so weird that nicotine is a legal drug and the others are not. It's unbelievably addictive (former smoker here) and it's a massive killer of people, often slowly, from horrifying diseases.

Dudess

idunnoshur wrote: »

Today I was filling up with petrol and I saw a woman with a boy aged about 14 in the car (I'm guessing it was her son) and the 2 of them were smoking away. I think it's a bit of a ****ing joke when parents let children this young smoke, my father just about let me smoke in front of him when I was 17 and I still can't smoke in front of the mother and I'm 21.

So at what age do you think children should be allowed to smoke or do you think that they shouldn't be allowed to smoke while living at home?


ids

I'd have been mangled by my mother if she caught me smoking at 17!

CageWager

What if she wasn't his mother? Maybe they're having some kind of massive age gap, smoke filled car sex with full tank of petrol madness. The durrrty beggars.

batistuta9

hairyprincess wrote: »

I think it's more to with the fact that parents can't or won't chastise their kids for fear their little darlings might end up in therapy. I believe it's called turning a blind eye

token101 wrote: »

Parents who let their children smoke usually aren't the best parents really. They're usually the same who wouldn't chastise the child for f***ing around in school, coming in whenever they like and hanging around with other scrotes. Just parents who don't really give a sh*t and probably shouldn't have had kids.

boogle wrote: »

I know a woman who has allowed her son to smoke since age 13 (and gives him cigarette money). When he was caught smoking at school she got a call from the Principal and she said to him that he's addicted and can't stop, and she's ok with him smoking at school. I saw him at the graveside at a family funeral smoking away (he was 14 at the time). I wanted to slap him and her.

it's really more to the fact that the parents realise that the kids are going to smoke anyway whether aloud or not & the second post i quoted is complete bullshít if i've ever read it

Stained Class

Dudess wrote: »

I'd have been mangled by my mother if she caught me smoking at 17!

I'm a Dad myself nowadays & in the scheme of things Smoking is the least of my worries.

Drinking to excess can lead to worse.

Gambling can be very serious.

Drugs. Illegal & can get you into the kind of trouble you can only get nightmares about.

Getting involved with the wrong people. Lie down with dogs & you will get up with fleas!

Overall, I think if I caught one of my kids having a sneaky Fag somewhere, I think it would be the least serious of what could happen in the scheme of things.

Nemanja91

I'm almost 21 and I'd still be mangled by my parents if they thought I smoked, and they're not even strict. Thankfully I don't smoke.

Dudess

Stained Class wrote: »

I think if I caught one of my kids having a sneaky Fag somewhere, I think it would be the least serious of what could happen in the scheme of things.

Oh I know, but just the way the OP is outraged by the kid he saw, yet 17 isn't much older. :pac:
My mum goes ballistic over smoking though - it killed both her parents. She still gives out to her almost 40-year-old son for it! :pac: My dad wouldn't have minded though.

brummytom

I'm 18, and if mom and dad knew I smoked (which I do, but I'm not addicted by any stretch of the imagination), they would absolutely murder me; even though they both did at my age.

tripe man

After seeing the carryon of young wans in Dublin city centre on the weekends, I'd be worried about having a daughter full stop.

Stained Class

Nemanja91 wrote: »

I'm almost 21 and I'd still be mangled by my parents if they thought I smoked, and they're not even strict. Thankfully I don't smoke.

It looks like you're from a well raised family then.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Mine didn't encourage it when I took up smoking up at 19 but they didn't get all fascist about it either, nobody has an Aneurysm when I light one up at family meetups.:pac:

Stained Class

Dudess wrote: »

Oh I know, but just the way the OP is outraged by the kid he saw, yet 17 isn't much older. :pac:
My mum goes ballistic over smoking though - it killed both her parents. She still gives out to her almost 40-year-old son for it! :pac: My dad wouldn't have minded though.

Spose it depends on your experiances.

My family have smoked for decades & it dose'nt seem to have any effect healthwise, even amongst the older generation('70s & '80s).

Saving money seems to be the main motivation for us to quit.

Naomi00

Stained Class wrote: »

Spose it depends on your experiances.

My family have smoked for decades & it dose'nt seem to have any effect healthwise, even amongst the older generation('70s & '80s).

Saving money seems to be the main motivation for us to quit.

How would it have no effect on your health?

Other than the damage on organs, surely it would make you unfit, cough a lot etc?

Not trying to get at anything, just genuinely confused at this bit.

Stained Class

Naomi00 wrote: »

How would it have no effect on your health?

Other than the damage on organs, surely it would make you unfit, cough a lot etc?

Not trying to get at anything, just genuinely confused at this bit.

Can't explain.

Despite the whole smoking thing my Family seem to run up high milage.

My opinion, is that we don't put up weight.

I'm 43 & am not much heavier than I was 20 years ago.

I think obesity is a bigger killer than smoking ever was.

joshrogan

Bazzo wrote: »

I still don't smoke in front of my mother, years later. Although I don't smoke nearly as much now as I did when I was 18/19, it's really just a "when I'm drinking" thing these days.

On a more serious note: What were the crazy feckers doing smoking on a petrol station forecourt?!

My dads mother doesn't know he smokes, he is going 55 this year and she is in her 80s :pac:

dark crystal

recylingbin wrote: »

Agreed. smoking near petrol causes death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDNdWFV2s2c

DEFTLEFTHAND

Naomi00 wrote: »

How would it have no effect on your health?

Other than the damage on organs, surely it would make you unfit, cough a lot etc?

Not trying to get at anything, just genuinely confused at this bit.

That's a good point but I wonder do certain people possess a genetic makeup that allows them to get away with smoking and still retain high physical fitness. For instance Johann Cryuff chain smoked his during his career and still reached greatness, Zidane likewise although maybe not as heavy. Edmund Hillary smoked during his conquest of Everest. Medically it's probably a ridiculous question to pose but these are the kinda of things that puzzle me sometimes.

Wetai

tripe man wrote: »

My mother let me smoke crack when I was 12.

She never let me eat nutella though.

That's a disgrace.





No nutella?! :mad:

Stained Class

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

That's a good point but I wonder do certain people possess a genetic makeup that allows them to get away with smoking and still retain high physical fitness. For instance Johann Cryuff chain smoked his during his career and still reached greatness, Zidane likewise although maybe not as heavy. Edmund Hillary smoked during his conquest of Everest. Medically it's probably a ridiculous question to pose but these are the kinda of things that puzzle me sometimes.

Nothing to excess was my Dad's motto.

We always ate what we needed.

Drank what we needed.

Smoked (what we thought we needed)

The Japs seem to have my family's way of thinking & they seem to do alright.

amacachi

My parents didn't know I smoked (well, they were never able to prove it :pac: ) til I was 20. Was drunk on Christmas Eve and had to ask my mam for a fag :pac:

Snowie

hairyprincess wrote: »

I think it's more to with the fact that parents can't or won't chastise their kids for fear their little darlings might end up in therapy. I believe it's called turning a blind eye

Helllo


this is ireland :pac:

we're not in yank land

Guill

I started smoking at 25, never smoked in front of my father, I was 29 and still sneaking around the back of the pub in case he caught me (that was only last year!) I assume he knew, he could probably smell it off of me but I also knew he would hate to see me doing it and we'd probably fall out if he did. So I hid out of respect (and fear). IFor some reason when I gave them at celebrations I pull out the cigars and puff away in front of him to my hearts content.

SunnyDub1

idunnoshur wrote: »

Today I was filling up with petrol and I saw a woman with a boy aged about 14 in the car (I'm guessing it was her son) and the 2 of them were smoking away. I think it's a bit of a ****ing joke when parents let children this young smoke, my father just about let me smoke in front of him when I was 17 and I still can't smoke in front of the mother and I'm 21.

So at what age do you think children should be allowed to smoke or do you think that they shouldn't be allowed to smoke while living at home?


ids

how do you know he was 14 ????? He might of just looked young.

Personally I don't agree with it - but there's only so much control a mother has over her children, and she's prob at the stage where she's saying to herself "ah well , they're gonna smoke anyway" weathers she tries to stop them or not.

charlietheminxx

I'm 24 and still won't admit to being a smoker to my parents. It's not worth the hassle and having them worry about me

AboutTwoFiddy

Smoking: bad.

Drinking: good.

cynder

MY sister in-laws son started smoking at 12, she did everything she could to stop it, didnt work he still smoked, he would never light up in the house but as soon as he was out he would light up. She gave up when he awas 16 but he never smoked in the house but would leave his ciggies around the house. He is now in his 20's and still smokes he has a top degree at trinity college and is finishing his masters in University of London, and has been accepted to do a PHD there too, starting later this year.

So what if he smokes he didnt turn out too bad now did he!

Stiffler2

recylingbin wrote: »

Agreed. smoking near petrol causes death.

really ?
I must have missed all the news reports over the years of petrol stations blowing up because people smoke near a petrol station.

You should take a look a few petrol stations in tallaght where schools smoke basically on the forecourt or the path no more than 20ft away from the pumps.

Even if you threw a lit cigarette into a barrell full of petrol it still wouldn't light.
It just puts the smoke out.

Irish Guitarist

When they're old enough to pay for their cigarettes themselves. Teenagers often come up to me and say "eh lad have you got a fag?". These little morons should have considered how they were actually going to pay for cigarettes before they took up smoking. I don't know if their parents know they smoke but it wouldn't surprise me.

hairyprincess

Snowie wrote: »

hairyprincess wrote: »

I think it's more to with the fact that parents can't or won't chastise their kids for fear their little darlings might end up in therapy. I believe it's called turning a blind eye

Helllo


this is ireland :pac:

we're not in yank land

You think kids in Ireland don't get therapy?

Wow.

prinz

One thing worse than a parent letting a teenager smoke, is parents who force their younger kids to smoke passively.

Dubit10

Fecking nanny state nonsense.

Naomi00

grindelwald wrote: »

MY sister in-laws son started smoking at 12, she did everything she could to stop it, didnt work he still smoked, he would never light up in the house but as soon as he was out he would light up. She gave up when he awas 16 but he never smoked in the house but would leave his ciggies around the house. He is now in his 20's and still smokes he has a top degree at trinity college and is finishing his masters in University of London, and has been accepted to do a PHD there too, starting later this year.

So what if he smokes he didnt turn out too bad now did he!

What has going to college got to do with anything? Doesn't stop you from getting cancer or a heart attack.

RedXIV

Never smoked before but my gf does but god bless her heart she tries hard to quit.

Can honestly say though that I'll almost definitely go bonkers if I ever find any of my kids smoking. Its a habit that I just don't understand, its expensive and kills you. My mam was told that my granny was guaranteed another 10 years alive if she hadn't smoked and thats a sobering thought.

Snowie

hairyprincess wrote: »

You think kids in Ireland don't get therapy?

Wow.

I never said that, sure they'll be grand ....
:pac:

Serious note, you don't fvcking send your kid to therapy, cause you said no you can't have that can of coke or you can't smoke. Thats crazy...

token101

batistuta9 wrote: »

it's really more to the fact that the parents realise that the kids are going to smoke anyway whether aloud or not & the second post i quoted is complete bullshít if i've ever read it

Bullsh*t eh? So you throw your hands up in the air and just let them do it whether they're 'aloud' to or not? Why would you not try and stop them by fear/education/any means necessary? Would that not be you job as a f***ing parent? We're talking 14 now here, not 17/18. If you can't control your child at 14 it's because you have failed as a parent; whether that be because you didn't stop problems earlier in life or let them hang around with scrotes. It's the parents. Look at it as the broken window theory of parenting. If they can get away with smoking at 14, sure they might aswell push the limits. What about crack? Heroin? Joyriding? What if you can't stop them breaking into houses? Do you just give up and let them? Maybe if more kids actually feared their parents and were embarrassed by being viewed as a vile f***ing scumbag we wouldn't have lads with 90 convictions strolling around the streets.

token101

AboutTwoFiddy wrote: »

Smoking at 14: bad.

Drinking at 14: potentially far worse

FYP there

pickarooney

grindelwald wrote: »

MY sister in-laws son started smoking at 12, she did everything she could to stop it, didnt work he still smoked, he would never light up in the house but as soon as he was out he would light up. She gave up when he awas 16 but he never smoked in the house but would leave his ciggies around the house. He is now in his 20's and still smokes he has a top degree at trinity college and is finishing his masters in University of London, and has been accepted to do a PHD there too, starting later this year.

So what if he smokes he didnt turn out too bad now did he!

I'm not sure studies have ever claimed smoking will kill you before you reach your twenties and retard your intellect to that extent

grindelwald

grindelwald wrote: »

MY sister in-laws son started smoking at 12, she did everything she could to stop it, didnt work he still smoked, he would never light up in the house but as soon as he was out he would light up. She gave up when he awas 16 but he never smoked in the house but would leave his ciggies around the house. He is now in his 20's and still smokes he has a top degree at trinity college and is finishing his masters in University of London, and has been accepted to do a PHD there too, starting later this year.

So what if he smokes he didnt turn out too bad now did he!

great use of his phd and intellect if he dies of lung cancer at 40

herisson

im nearly 21 and i still hide the fact that i smoke from my parents and my sister

my cousin is 14 and her parents let her smoke no matter where they are
they buy them for her too and what is their excuse?
"Sure id rather her getting them off me than her asking a stranger for them"

how is that ok?!

i know this is going to be hypocritical of me but its disgusting
she is still a child if that was my child id encourage them to stop and i would not feed into the habit!