Parents letting their children smoke

cynder

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm not sure studies have ever claimed smoking will kill you before you reach your twenties and retard your intellect to that extent

Oh whatever, i didnt say he would be dead before he was 20:rolleyes:

He smoked since the age of 12, his mother tried everything but nothing worked, he however turned out fine and isnt a scumbag. His mother isnt the devil for not thing up something to stop him from smoking. She didnt neglect him, for not putting a stopper on it when he was younger, he has turned into a fine adult.

So what if he smokes.... His life his choice...

batistuta9

token101 wrote: »

Bullsh*t eh? So you throw your hands up in the air and just let them do it whether they're 'aloud' to or not? Why would you not try and stop them by fear/education/any means necessary? Would that not be you job as a f***ing parent? We're talking 14 now here, not 17/18. If you can't control your child at 14 it's because you have failed as a parent; whether that be because you didn't stop problems earlier in life or let them hang around with scrotes. It's the parents. Look at it as the broken window theory of parenting. If they can get away with smoking at 14, sure they might aswell push the limits. What about crack? Heroin? Joyriding? What if you can't stop them breaking into houses? Do you just give up and let them? Maybe if more kids actually feared their parents and were embarrassed by being viewed as a vile f***ing scumbag we wouldn't have lads with 90 convictions strolling around the streets.

of course you can try to stop them, if it works it works, if it doesn't then what are you going to do?
follow them around 24/7? if a kid want's to smoke they'll smoke with or with out parents permission simple as that.
parents may view smoking as the least of their problems of what a kid could possibly get up to, if all your kid does though their teenage years is smoke then i don't think that's too bad. it'd be better if they didn't but could do far far worse things. sort of the best of a bad lot

just because a child does something the parent doesn't approve of doesn't mean they've failed as a parent

and trying to say allowing them to smoke is equivalent to allowing them to rob houses/joyride is ridiculous, crack & heroin


look at your first post again

token101 wrote: »

Parents who let their children smoke usually aren't the best parents really. They're usually the same who wouldn't chastise the child for f***ing around in school, coming in whenever they like and hanging around with other scrotes. Just parents who don't really give a sh*t and probably shouldn't have had kids.

i think it's complete bullshít. just because someone will let their child smoke doesn't make them a bad parent & you've no proof that because they do, they don't give a shít or give out to them about how they do in school or coming home late etc.
shouldn't have kids because they allow them to smoke :pac::pac::pac:

cynder

bluewolf wrote: »

great use of his phd and intellect if he dies of lung cancer at 40

His choice! He could get hit by a bus tomorrow, who knows, i for one know my dad smoked from 14 he died at 54 no sign of any cancer what so ever, (death not smoke related).

Just because you smoke your not guaranteed to get cancer, the risk is higher. Anyone anywhere can get cancer, might aswell be happy before it gets you and when it gets you. Everyones got to die sometime...

cynder

batistuta9 wrote: »

of course you can try to stop them, if it works it works, if it doesn't then what are you going to do?
follow them around 24/7? if a kid want's to smoke they'll smoke with or with out parents permission simple as that.
parents may view smoking as the least of their problems of what a kid could possibly get up to, if all your kid does though their teenage years is smoke then i don't think that's too bad. it'd be better if they didn't but could do far far worse things. sort of the best of a bad lot

just because a child does something the parent doesn't approve of doesn't mean they've failed as a parent

and trying to say allowing them to smoke is equivalent to allowing them to rob houses/joyride is ridiculous, crack & heroin


look at your first post again



i think it's complete bullshít. just because someone will let their child smoke doesn't make them a bad parent & you've no proof that because they do, they don't give a shít or give out to them about how they do in school or coming home late etc.
shouldn't have kids because they allow them to smoke :pac::pac::pac:

Very true as the point i made with my sister in law, her son smoked yet turned into a fine adult , she wasnt a bad parent, in fact she was a great parent and still is...

Stark

Stiffler2 wrote: »

really ?
I must have missed all the news reports over the years of petrol stations blowing up because people smoke near a petrol station.

The list is endless.

(It's also beginningless).

Edit: Found one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdyyps2wmd4

pragmatic1

My mother let me smoke at 16 but by that stage she caught me smoking so many times she felt it was pointless.

I started smoking when I was 13. No one knew til I had left home at 18. Still smoke and have never been in any trouble. I totally disagree with kids smoking though!
BTW Gave up smoking 1 month ago after 27 years smoking.

token101

batistuta9 wrote: »

of course you can try to stop them, if it works it works, if it doesn't then what are you going to do?
follow them around 24/7? if a kid want's to smoke they'll smoke with or with out parents permission simple as that.
parents may view smoking as the least of their problems of what a kid could possibly get up to, if all your kid does though their teenage years is smoke then i don't think that's too bad. it'd be better if they didn't but could do far far worse things. sort of the best of a bad lot

just because a child does something the parent doesn't approve of doesn't mean they've failed as a parent

and trying to say allowing them to smoke is equivalent to allowing them to rob houses/joyride is ridiculous, crack & heroin


look at your first post again



i think it's complete bullshít. just because someone will let their child smoke doesn't make them a bad parent & you've no proof that because they do, they don't give a shít or give out to them about how they do in school or coming home late etc.
shouldn't have kids because they allow them to smoke :pac::pac::pac:

You might not be able to stop them, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and just leave it, which is what you suggested in your first post. Not even bothering to try change a child's bad behaviour or behaviour that'll affect themselves negatively at 14 makes a sh*tty parent and that attitude will almost definitely lead to worse. If you can't be arsed trying to change a child, because 'ah sure they'll just do it anyway', you shouldn't have kids and you are a sh*t parent.

batistuta9

token101 wrote: »

You might not be able to stop them, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and just leave it, which is what you suggested in your first post. Not even bothering to try change a child's bad behaviour or behaviour that'll affect themselves negatively at 14 makes a sh*tty parent and that attitude will almost definitely lead to worse. If you can't be arsed trying to change a child, because 'ah sure they'll just do it anyway', you shouldn't have kids and you are a sh*t parent.

i didn't suggest that in my first post and in my second you should try to stop it, i'm saying you can try to stop them all you want but this mightn't even work.

if it doesn't work some parents just accept that their children smoke and allow them to do so. big deal

like it or like it not they'll be a day when little sweet 'mary' is getting fúcked stupid, some people will accept this realisation more than others. same with the smoking you can pretend they don't all you want but they'll still smoke whether at school or any time they get out of the parents sight

realising that your child does something doesn't make you a shít parent either, what about the kid in a few posts above who started to smoke at 12 & when to get a Ph.D i suppose you think that was ****ty parenting too

token101

batistuta9 wrote: »

i didn't suggest that in my first post and in my second you should try to stop it, i'm saying you can try to stop them all you want but this mightn't even work.

if it doesn't work some parents just accept that their children smoke and allow them to do so. big deal

like it or like it not they'll be a day when little sweet 'mary' is getting fúcked stupid, some people will accept this realisation more than others. same with the smoking you can pretend they don't all you want but they'll still smoke whether at school or any time they get out of the parents sight

realising that your child does something doesn't make you a shít parent either, what about the kid in a few posts above who started to smoke at 12 & when to get a Ph.D i suppose you think that was ****ty parenting too

Ah you're right, I see it now. Instead of banning them from smoking around the house, cutting off money, grounding them until they stop and just generally making life as difficult as possible for them, just accept it sure, that's the answer. Big deal? Cancer's no big deal sure. What a top class parenting attitude. What about when they do something else that'll f*** up their lives? Like quitting school or some other braindead teenage idea? Will they just accept that too? Sure they've been told haven't they?

Pandora2

token101 wrote: »

Ah you're right, I see it now. Instead of banning them from smoking around the house, cutting off money, grounding them until they stop and just generally making life as difficult as possible for them, just accept it sure, that's the answer. Big deal? Cancer's no big deal sure. What a top class parenting attitude. What about when they do something else that'll f*** up their lives? Like quitting school or some other braindead teenage idea? Will they just accept that too? Sure they've been told haven't they?

Yeah, but you gotta choose your battles!! Been parenting for some 30 years cumulatively now and have an adult daughter who doesn't smoke, rarely drinks and conducts herself with decorum, virtually independant of me these days, and one of 16 who is currently smoking now, I don't like it, don't fund it, but.....I'd much rather keep the lines of communication open at this crucial time in her social development than force her into deceiving me about her activities!! If I lose the plot over a crafty fag or a lager shandy.....why would she confide in me about the big stuff. I'm guessing if you have kids, they're young..........report back when you've been through the teenage stage once!!

You remind me of myself when my two were small:p Supermom wasn't in it!!

batistuta9

token101 wrote: »

Ah you're right, I see it now. Instead of banning them from smoking around the house, cutting off money, grounding them until they stop and just generally making life as difficult as possible for them, just accept it sure, that's the answer. Big deal? Cancer's no big deal sure. What a top class parenting attitude. What about when they do something else that'll f*** up their lives? Like quitting school or some other braindead teenage idea? Will they just accept that too? Sure they've been told haven't they?

you don't get it do you.

you could do all the things you mention even more, even beat the shít out of them if that's what you want to do but it'll still not going to stop them smoking if they really want to

and since your such an expert in parenting, how could you over look the fact that a lot of time the more strictly you try to enforce something on a child the more they'll rebel & do it anyway, maybe even worse things just to spite you

i'm not saying cancer isn't a big deal but not everyone who smoke will get cancer & not everyone who smokes will smoke for years either.

i'm saying if the worst thing they do growing up is smoke, then big deal.
if you think the worst a teenager can do is smoke then you can't see the wood for the trees

ur mentor

No one should be allowed to smoke.. anything.. ever...

Shanotheslayer

ur mentor wrote: »

No one should be allowed to smoke.. anything.. ever...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/526748_363323203712837_132141133497713_1116970_1767396292_n.jpg

Nobody should be allowed drink coke ever.

Namlub

grindelwald wrote: »

MY sister in-laws son started smoking at 12, she did everything she could to stop it, didnt work he still smoked, he would never light up in the house but as soon as he was out he would light up. She gave up when he awas 16 but he never smoked in the house but would leave his ciggies around the house. He is now in his 20's and still smokes he has a top degree at trinity college and is finishing his masters in University of London, and has been accepted to do a PHD there too, starting later this year.

So what if he smokes he didnt turn out too bad now did he!

Why would smoking affect anyone's ability to get a degree or do a masters?

Conor84

Don't think many parents would allow a 14 year old smoke in front of them but if they smoke themselves it's hard to say you shouldn't smoke to your kid.

I started smoking around 14 but not in front of my parents. I was - and still am - the only one who smokes in the family. They didn't catch me smoking until I was 16 - and then you could buy smokes at 16. They weren't happy but probably knew they couldn't do much about it. They stopped giving me pocket money when they found out but I started a part time job round then so it wasn't a big deal. I never smoked around them until I was 18 while I was still at home before going to college.

When I'm home now I still don't really smoke in front of them - go outside to have one.

OMG Its EoinD

What I would like if cigarettes were treated the same way as alcohol with regards to minors.

Both are illegal for an under 18 year old to buy. Guards will stop someone under 18 drinking but not someone smoking.

I have a 12 year old sister who's smoking with over a year and my mothers attitude is "You can't stop her. If she wants to do it she will".

She is a smoke since 11 she doesn't care about health risks ( I can hear her coughing till all hours ) just about looking cool. I'm 20 , I tried cigarettes and they tasted horrible so I stopped.

But people don't seem to care about how it affects the young people and it's bad parenting if a parent willingly buys or allows the child to smoke.