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Return land back after being forestry land

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  • 08-04-2012 8:59pm
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    raher1
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    Can land be returned to grass land from forestry land?:D
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    rancher
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    Sonye wrote: »
    Can land be returned to grass land from forestry land?:D

    Law says it has to remain in forestry, so hopefully there will still be grants to replant...,.


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    raher1
    Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭raher1


    rancher wrote: »
    Law says it has to remain in forestry, so hopefully there will still be grants to replant...,.
    That's a waste of land. You could feed a beast


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    brian_t
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    There's a previous thread here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055834782


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    greenfingers89
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    you have 2 options OP. reclaim the land and pay back all grants including grants covering the establishment works

    or plant an equal area somewhere else to allow you reclaim said lands (you wouldnt be getting an extra grant to help you do this

    neither are cheap so be sure your going to be better off once you reclaim the land


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    greenfingers89
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    rancher wrote: »
    so hopefully there will still be grants to replant...,.

    there is no grant to cover replanting of forestry


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    raher1
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    seems like a waste of land,tree wouldn't grow on land that trees have grown before. wouldn't be benifical to grow crop or feed animals.dead trees are good for no one. a hedgerow with bushes and trees are good for everyone


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    greenfingers89
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    Sonye wrote: »
    tree wouldn't grow on land that trees have grown before. wouldn't be benifical to grow crop or feed animals.

    not sure what this means???


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    raher1
    Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭raher1


    why leave land after deforestry looking like a war zone.could it not be used for argri land?


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    greenfingers89
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    Sonye wrote: »
    why leave land after deforestry looking like a war zone.could it not be used for argri land?

    i see what you're trying to say now. the land has to be replanted following a clearfell by law.

    and by the way trees grow even better second time around not worse as you say. a rotation length can often be reduced by approx 5 years second time around.
    its due to factors like improved drainage, lots of freely available urea from decaying needles, rotting stumps providing a more slow release dose of nutrients over the years and a better soil structure


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    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Sonye wrote: »
    why leave land after deforestry looking like a war zone.could it not be used for argri land?

    Surely trees are a crop just like grass or cereals.


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    greenfingers89
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    brian_t wrote: »
    Surely trees are a crop just like grass or cereals.

    correct! its just that ireland doesnt think of it this way yet


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    doctor evil
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    greenfingers89 wrote: »
    its due to factors like improved drainage, lots of freely available urea from decaying needles, rotting stumps providing a more slow release dose of nutrients over the years and a better soil structure

    Do the pine needles not take forever to break down? I heard they increase the pH of the soil.


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    raher1
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    The way forests are sown,they are dark and unsightly.


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    The way forests are sown,they are dark and unsightly.

    Love dark forests meself. Unsightly? Compared to agricultural fields?

    OlympusFeb2003358-001.jpg


    No way Jose! :cool:


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    raher1
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    Yeah that looks thinned,well planted and loads of light but fake. I could take pics of forests. In which it's three o clock in the day but three a night in there forest floor.


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    Yeah that looks thinned,well planted and loads of light but fake. I could take pics of forests. In which it's three o clock in the day but three a night in there forest floor.

    So could I - your point?

    (The photo is not a "fake", btw)


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    raher1
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    Wild Bill wrote: »
    So could I - your point?

    (The photo is not a "fake", btw)
    Most planted forests are dark,no plants other than thin conifers or half dead token native trees. It's sad.


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    Most planted forests are dark,no plants other than thin conifers or half dead token native trees. It's sad.

    Whatever :rolleyes:


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    raher1
    Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭raher1


    i am right:)


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    i am right:)

    'Course you are :rolleyes:


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    Ettellig
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    Sonye wrote: »
    The way forests are sown,they are dark and unsightly.
    It's purely subjective. Go to the Pacific Northwest and see Sitka/Hemlock/Fir /Western Red cedar in their mature majesty...it could be like that here someday.

    Trees, trees against the sky -
    O I have loved them well!
    There are pleasures you cannot buy,
    Treasurers you cannot sell,
    And not the smallest of these
    Is the gift and glory of trees. . . .
    So I gaze and I know now why
    It is good to live - and to die. . . .
    Trees and the Infinite Sky.


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    raher1
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    Wild Bill wrote: »
    'Course you are :rolleyes:
    its all good. trees will grow and man will die


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    its all good. trees will grow and man will die

    Eventually trees will also die :rolleyes:


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    raher1
    Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭raher1


    What was the my question again?


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    Wild Bill
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    Sonye wrote: »
    What was the my question again?

    Can't remember.


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    raher1
    Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭raher1


    yawn


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    #28
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    ...zzzzz..........................


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    #29
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Sonye wrote: »
    Can land be returned to grass land from forestry land?

    ...zzzzzzz........Oh! :eek:

    Of course it can!


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    #30
    St. Leibowitz
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    Pleeeese stop feeding the troll. Just let this die.


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    #31
    brian_t
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    St. Leibowitz wrote: »
    Pleeeese stop feeding the troll. Just let this die.

    I think you are unfair to refer to either of the above posters as a troll but there was certainly no need for this thread to run to a second page.


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