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Most incorrect thing you were taught?

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Louche Lad wrote: »
    Most western point in Ireland seems to be Tearaght Island off the Dingle Peninsula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_points_of_the_Republic_of_Ireland

    That island is one of the Blaskets. :) Cool Wikipedia page though. I'll bookmark that for quizzes and stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    wilkie2006 wrote: »
    The point that I was getting at is that graduates' standard of academic knowledge and competency has had to increase in response to the decrease in employment prospects.

    Yes, school has indeed become an institution that champions learning by rote at the expense of students really challenging and engaging with material. In this respect, schools are guilty of bad pedagogy. While one's superior intellect cannot be confirmed through scoring 600 LC points, their superior knowledge of that particular subject (at its level) cannot be questioned (an achievement that I don't think can be ignored if we're talking about competency, particularly for vocational jobs).

    In my experience, however, the type of material one studies in a university degree precludes the school-inspired variety of "learning by appropriation". Those who persist with it or are incapable of advancing beyond it are those who flounder in their degrees (even if they excelled in their peer groups at school).

    While the LC may provide a very crude, unfair - and, I agree, often imprecise - filter of "excellence", the criteria for progressing from undergraduate to postgraduate is far more sophisticated. In order to qualify, one must have a demonstrable ability to engage their chosen subject in a reflexive, critical way (i.e. proof that they've learnt the skills taught traditionally by universities).

    This is standard cant about the LC. The fact is not all of the LC is rote, and most of it doesn't have to be, with some exceptions, but a huge amount of University Courses are nothing else but rote.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 770 ✭✭✭ComputerKing


    Project Maths


  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Water freezes at 100C, was a typo in our Geography book and pretty much proved that our teacher had no business teaching at all
    I always remember having a textbook (1960's) that was about the solar system and had the surface temperatures of the outer planets at values considerably below absolute zero measured in Fahrenheit (−459.67)

    Pluto was supposed to have a surface temperature of something like -1250 deg F


  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Using the internet for years and years before I ever knew you didn't have to type www.


    I just didn't know until last year

    When I expressed my surprise I got a look as if I was the greatest fool in Ireland :rolleyes:


    When I started using it fadó fadó you had to type www and I had no reason to ever stop

    Depends on the DNS name resolution, there are still many web sites out there that only resolved with the www. in front!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Depends on the DNS name resolution, there are still many web sites out there that only resolved with the www. in front!

    The browser adds it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    The browser adds it.

    There are exceptions.

    jobcentreonline.com for one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    That island is one of the Blaskets. :) Cool Wikipedia page though. I'll bookmark that for quizzes and stuff.
    You better bookmark it for a quiz! It was in a quiz that he came out with this statement and told me I was wrong :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Here's one, the topic of quizzes reminded me:
    We were at a quiz. Final question was one about Disney films. I knew the answer and my sister watched that film 100 times as a kid so she was sure. We thought had every other question right in that round so it was either joint first or we had won.
    Anyway, we came second! He called out the answers and it was wrong... Checked it on wikipedia when we got home and we were right. Gutted.

    Won a bottle of Baileys instead of Oxegen tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Here's one, the topic of quizzes reminded me:
    We were at a quiz. Final question was one about Disney films. I knew the answer and my sister watched that film 100 times as a kid so she was sure. We thought had every other question right in that round so it was either joint first or we had won.
    Anyway, we came second! He called out the answers and it was wrong... Checked it on wikipedia when we got home and we were right. Gutted.

    Won a bottle of Baileys instead of Oxegen tickets.
    don't leave us hanging, man...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭baalthor


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    SdoowSirhc wrote: »
    Hahah, brilliant :D

    You should have pointed out that Greenland is a Danish province and therefore even further west than Iceland. No EU come back there!
    Greenland is not part of the EU or of Europe.

    The most westerly part of the EU is Saint-Martin, part of the French Caribbean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    don't leave us hanging, man...

    I cant remember the exact question I'm afraid. The correct answer was sleeping beauty and they said Snow White. Wrecking my brains now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    You should have pointed out that Greenland is a Danish province and therefore even further west than Iceland. No EU come back there!

    Its somewhat more complicated than that. Greeland is a constituent country of the Kingdom of Denmark but its not part of the actual Danish state and isn't part of the EU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gufnork


    To think before you act. All this does is cause you to worry for ages and then not do what it was you wanted to originally.

    Bad, bad mummy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,329 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Its somewhat more complicated than that. Greeland is a constituent country of the Kingdom of Denmark but its not part of the actual Danish state and isn't part of the EU.

    His teacher's not going to know that!

    If we're going down the road f the EU, how about French Guiana?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    His teacher's not going to know that!

    If we're going down the road f the EU, how about French Guiana?
    Thanks for that one, didn't even think of over seas territories :D I'll be sure to ask him about that if he ever decides to brings it up again. What amazed me was that he argued with me in front of everybody that Iceland didn't count as being European even after I told him that it had even applied to join the EU. He said "well yeah, but it's not culturally part of Europe really" :confused:
    I thought it was more culturally European that "geographically" European because it's part of the Scandinavian group of countries..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    His teacher's not going to know that!

    If we're going down the road f the EU, how about French Guiana?
    Or Polynesia ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭MultiUmm


    A teacher in primary school told us that during WWII the soldiers in concentration camps and other areas on the front were guilty of no crimes at all because they were "just following orders" from the chain of command.
    So she basically absolved thousands of war criminals who committed atrocities because they were only following their orders like good boys sure.
    I think that was possibly the most inaccurate thing I was ever taught.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    MultiUmm wrote: »
    A teacher in primary school told us that during WWII the soldiers in concentration camps and other areas on the front were guilty of no crimes at all because they were "just following orders" from the chain of command.
    So she basically absolved thousands of war criminals who committed atrocities because they were only following their orders like good boys sure.
    I think that was possibly the most inaccurate thing I was ever taught.

    They were following orders. Germany had conscription they had no choice in the matter. The Nazi hunters need to lay off. Don't put the tag of war criminal on these men, they have suffered enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭BlueSmoker


    That I'm not normal

    I realise now I'm as normal as the next person, it feels good :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    They were following orders. Germany had conscription they had no choice in the matter. The Nazi hunters need to lay off. Don't put the tag of war criminal on these men, they have suffered enough.

    The death camps were operated by SS volunteers, all of whom were war criminals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    Them Sellafield tablets each household were given years ago that we're to be taken if there was a nuclear disaster were actually suicide tablets.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MultiUmm wrote: »
    A teacher in primary school told us that during WWII the soldiers in concentration camps and other areas on the front were guilty of no crimes at all because they were "just following orders" from the chain of command.
    So she basically absolved thousands of war criminals who committed atrocities because they were only following their orders like good boys sure.
    I think that was possibly the most inaccurate thing I was ever taught.
    So I guess soldiers from either side who were on the front are war criminals?

    Do you think everyone who was a member of the khymer rouge was a war criminal aswell?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Neeson wrote: »
    Them Sellafield tablets each household were given years ago that we're to be taken if there was a nuclear disaster were actually suicide tablets.

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    MultiUmm wrote:
    war criminals who committed atrocities
    So I guess soldiers from either side who were on the front are war criminals?

    Atrocity
    Noun
    atrocity (countable and uncountable; plural atrocities)
    (uncountable) The quality or state of being atrocious; enormous wickedness; extreme criminality or cruelty.
    (countable) An extremely cruel act; a horrid act of injustice.

    Soldier != War Criminal


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Alot of the Khymer Rouge are also considered to be victims in Cambodia.. There was no choice involved for most. Take this gun, kill or we kill you.

    Their pictures and stories are documented next to the people they had to kill.


  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Alot of the Khymer Rouge are also considered to be victims in Cambodia.. There was no choice involved for most. Take this gun, kill or we kill you.
    That statement holds true for most acts of "genocide" in the past as the penalty for disobeying orders was often death.

    There are exceptions of course.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Gurgle wrote: »
    Soldier != War Criminal

    Soldiers = { !(War Criminals) & War Criminals }


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    I remember in university they told us that banks had ultra-reliable IT systems that ensured 100% uptime.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    That statement holds true for most acts of "genocide" in the past as the penalty for disobeying orders was often death.
    At present there is almost no down side to obeying orders. Your chances of being prosecuted and then found guilty and then having to face punishment that was anything like the immediate punishment for not following orders is practically zero.

    Perhaps if those following orders knew there might be a time of reckoning it might slow down the worst of them a little. Considering the millions who have died even a 0.01% rate of indecision would save lots of lives.


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