Friday 13th

UnitedIrishman

Have a €10 EW treble with Finians and Global Village up and Aquilonius left in the 6.45. Pays about €450, thinking about trying to lay some of it off but the amount of liquidity on Betfair is pretty poor and only danger (imo) is Dart Queen, would I just be best off backing DQ at 2s or just leave the €10EW treble as is? Feel free to have a look at race and offer an opinion.

TheMilkyPirate

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Have a €10 EW treble with Finians and Global Village up and Aquilonius left in the 6.45. Pays about €450, thinking about trying to lay some of it off but the amount of liquidity on Betfair is pretty poor and only danger (imo) is Dart Queen, would I just be best off backing DQ at 2s or just leave the €10EW treble as is? Feel free to have a look at race and offer an opinion.

If I was you I'd just leave it run, Dart queen is a 22 race maiden and with the form Bolger is in I'd be quite happy with the bet.

NewApproach

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Have a €10 EW treble with Finians and Global Village up and Aquilonius left in the 6.45. Pays about €450, thinking about trying to lay some of it off but the amount of liquidity on Betfair is pretty poor and only danger (imo) is Dart Queen, would I just be best off backing DQ at 2s or just leave the €10EW treble as is? Feel free to have a look at race and offer an opinion.

Obv leave it, why would you have put the third one in the treble if you were just going to lay it off when the first two win?

UnitedIrishman

NewApproach wrote: »

Obv leave it, why would you have put the third one in the treble if you were just going to lay it off when the first two win?

I'm thinking about profit really. Think I'll leave it in the end.

tonic wine

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I'm thinking about profit really. Think I'll leave it in the end.

I'd be trying to make a profit on both outcomes if it was me personally.
Goodluck

Juwwi

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I'm thinking about profit really. Think I'll leave it in the end.

Looking at the field there isnt 1 you could fully rule out so backing the 2nd fav might'nt work.

unless you have a betfair account to lay the favourite your only other option is to let it run.

Hulk Hands

NewApproach wrote: »

Obv leave it, why would you have put the third one in the treble if you were just going to lay it off when the first two win?

Stupid way of looking at it. If he wouldn't be comfortable placing what is now riding on the horse in a single bet then he should lay some of it off. Just because you do a treble doesn't mean you're tied into it

Morgans

Yeah. Unless you have restricted access or something, back in singles, you can always put all your winnings on the second horse and if that wins put it all on the third horse. Worrying about laying off doesnt come into the equation. You have more control.

UnitedIrishman

Beaten by a head on the line. Mannning pulled the neck off him all the way around and then wouldn't get going, but was a slow paced race so can't blame him as such. Cest la vie, talk about a **** day of punting for me.

Hulk Hands

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Beaten by a head on the line. Mannning pulled the neck off him all the way around and then wouldn't get going, but was a slow paced race so can't blame him as such. Cest la vie, talk about a **** day of punting for me.

E/w treble though so you get something yeah?

UnitedIrishman

Hulk Hands wrote: »

E/w treble though so you get something yeah?

Yeah, not enough to recoup my losses today but about €40.

NewApproach

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Stupid way of looking at it. If he wouldn't be comfortable placing what is now riding on the horse in a single bet then he should lay some of it off. Just because you do a treble doesn't mean you're tied into it

The only stupid thing here is backing trebles.

hucklebuck

NewApproach wrote: »

The only stupid thing here is backing trebles.

I disagree, it depends on the structure of the treble.

The way I generally do a treble is two solid looking favourites first and a decent horse at better odds for the third leg, if the first go in then you can back two/ three other fancies in the last to try secure a good return.

Slattsy

hucklebuck wrote: »

NewApproach wrote: »

The only stupid thing here is backing trebles.

I disagree, it depends on the structure of the treble.

The way I generally do a treble is two solid looking favourites first and a decent horse at better odds for the third leg, if the first go in then you can back two/ three other fancies in the last to try secure a good return.

I agree with this.
A 10er treble is my favourite bet. My structure is to generally try stick 3 solid favs in between evens and 3/1.

It's worth noting that 3 evens shots winning pays 8/1. You never win a lot backing evens shots so why not treble em

UrbanSea

There is absolutely zero benefit to punters backing trebles. The only thing is that your money is tied up when it otherwise wouldn't be.

Morgans

Slattsy wrote: »

I agree with this.
A 10er treble is my favourite bet. My structure is to generally try stick 3 solid favs in between evens and 3/1.

It's worth noting that 3 evens shots winning pays 8/1. You never win a lot backing evens shots so why not treble em

Why not back each one as as single.

10 at evens brings 20
then put 20 on at evens
adn if it wins put 40 on at evens

UrbanSea

Morgans wrote: »

Why not back each one as as single.

10 at evens brings 20
then put 20 on at evens
adn if it wins put 40 on at evens

With the benefit being you can always take out your tenner or more to ensure you at least break even with money going on to the next

NaiveMelodies

People often say, I'll do a small treble for interest etc.. I find that funny, what's interesting about the treble if your first one loses?

Licence to print.

Slattsy

My biggest return to date was from a 10er treble.
Don't see any point sticking 10er on an evs fav to be honest.
Or 20 on a 6/4 shot for that matter.

That's just me

UrbanSea

Slattsy wrote: »

My biggest return to date was from a 10er treble.
Don't see any point sticking 10er on an evs fav to be honest.
Or 20 on a 6/4 shot for that matter.

That's just me

But that's exactly what you're doing, except that it's rolling over.

If you do a 10er treble on three evens, say the last one loses, you get nothing back.

If you do three singles.
20 back from the first.
You can then either stick the full 20 on the next, or even deduct your ten euro so you're guaranteed at least your money back.

If you do a treble you don't have this option which is nice to have. I understand you know this Slattsy but I'm sure there are others who don't.



I got a barrage of abuse one day on the RP Facebook page. The question was ''What's your bet of the day''. I said Baby Mix at 4/1, it was the day he won at Kempton.

Some intelligent looking lad who seemed to be from the lower social classes said a treble of three odds on shots. People congratulated him as if he had just chosen an elusive winner. I was told by a number of people just how stupid I was by saying that he should stick to singles. Think one reply was ''Stick to singles...ya right david you f*cking mug, do that if you want to make **** all. trebles and accums if you want to clean the bookies out''.

Lol.


I believe he claimed that he won 70k off of his treble, with the gullible posters weak at the knees over this. I genuinely gave up trying to converse with an idiot,or a group of them in this case.

Slattsy

UrbanSea wrote: »

Slattsy wrote: »

My biggest return to date was from a 10er treble.
Don't see any point sticking 10er on an evs fav to be honest.
Or 20 on a 6/4 shot for that matter.

That's just me

But that's exactly what you're doing, except that it's rolling over.

If you do a 10er treble on three evens, say the last one loses, you get nothing back.

If you do three singles.
20 back from the first.
You can then either stick the full 20 on the next, or even deduct your ten euro so you're guaranteed at least your money back.

If you do a treble you don't have this option which is nice to have. I understand you know this Slattsy but I'm sure there are others who don't.



I got a barrage of abuse one day on the RP Facebook page. The question was ''What's your bet of the day''. I said Baby Mix at 4/1, it was the day he won at Kempton.

Some intelligent looking lad who seemed to be from the lower social classes said a treble of three odds on shots. People congratulated him as if he had just chosen an elusive winner. I was told by a number of people just how stupid I was by saying that he should stick to singles. Think one reply was ''Stick to singles...ya right david you f*cking mug, do that if you want to make **** all. trebles and accums if you want to clean the bookies out''.

Lol.


I believe he claimed that he won 70k off of his treble, with the gullible posters weak at the knees over this. I genuinely gave up trying to converse with an idiot,or a group of them in this case.

My point simply is I don't see the point in sticking 10 or 20 on an evs shot purely to win my stake back. I'd rather get the 8/1 treble up for my 10ee than back them singularly at evs. I'd be going in hard at evs to be honest if I do back them on their own. But if I only want to have small stakes I'll do me wee treble.

hucklebuck

Morgans wrote: »

Why not back each one as as single.

10 at evens brings 20
then put 20 on at evens
adn if it wins put 40 on at evens

If you are to do this you have no out on the last selection whereas you do if the first two have gone in, you can have a bet or two to guarantee a certain return.

In this case you could put €10.77 on a 5/1 and €9.23 on a 6/1 and if either of these win or the third leg wins (you have 80% chance or one of them winning) you get €60 back.

Morgans

or you have 30 on at evens or bet whatever you want on at 5/1 or 6/1 shot. There is no circumstance in which you have less freedom backing singles.

hucklebuck

Your example was why do a treble when you can roll over your stake in three bets and I just explained why I do trebles and how I cover them.