"Women don't want to talk to drunks"Fact or fiction?

castletownman

My auld lad insists that when it comes to socializing, women do not want to talk to drunks. I don’t know whether to agree with him or not. The thing is I’m relatively attractive, well-read, articulate and intelligent but I can’t for the life of me get talking to a girl on a night out without having two or three “buffer” pints in me first. Proof of the pudding is the fact that of any relationship I’ve had over the last six years or so, the initial contact was always made when under the influence. Maybe it’s a damning insight into me, or perhaps it’s common amongst a lot of Irish men, but at the same time it’s a bit odd considering my field of work consists of me constantly interviewing people and I never lack confidence then. Of course, there has been the odd night where I’ve been so stotious that it’d take a brave girl to even talk to me!

On the flip side of the coin, there has been many an occasion where I’d be talking to a drunk girl when sober and could never tell whether it’d be right or wrong to make a move. Case in point was a couple of weeks ago when a girl was chatting me up, rubbing my arm, moving in closer etc. I had only a couple of pints on me and didn’t know whether I should lean or for a shift or vice versa (didn’t really matter in the end, she went in for the kill and succeeded!:pac:)

So basically female folk of AH, is it fact or fiction that women don’t like talking to drunks? And if they don’t, is because they be trippin’? And what’s the number one tell-tale sign that a girl is interested in a lad on a night out?

Dravokivich

I don't think you know the difference between Sober, Merry or Drunk.

Under no circumstances in your OP were you Sober or Drunk. You just lack social skills. Work on that and you'll be knee deep in clunge in no time.

The King of Moo

No-one wants to talk to drunks, surely.

But particularly in the case of chatting up: if you're drunk, you're definitely not being as charming as you imagine.

Naomi00

I hate talking to drunk guys when I'm sober, happened just the other day. They get mad though :rolleyes:

44leto

Yep they do, it happens to me all the time.

You lack social skills and are overly dependent on alcohol

And yes, I hate talking to drunk people

AngryBollix

they do shag them though

SunnyDub1

Depends on what you mean by drunk ?

There's the friendly socializing, bit of banter "drunks"
Then theres the creepy, meesy annoying drunks... that give you stick & make an arse of themselves when you refuse to entertain them

Personally I'll happily chat to a "friendly drunk" (someone who can hold a conversation together)
I think drink is great form or socializing

Steven81

If you dont try you wont succeed but the problem is in Ireland that so many girls think they are the best thing that ever walked when they are the complete opposite and wont even have a conversation let alone anything else.

Talk to ones in the pub and you wont have a problem, excess drink and you will.

The King of Moo

castletownman wrote: »

My auld lad insists that when it comes to socializing, women do not want to talk to drunks. I don’t know whether to agree with him or not. The thing is I’m relatively attractive, well-read, articulate and intelligent but I can’t for the life of me get talking to a girl on a night out without having two or three “buffer” pints in me first. Proof of the pudding is the fact that of any relationship I’ve had over the last six years or so, the initial contact was always made when under the influence. Maybe it’s a damning insight into me, or perhaps it’s common amongst a lot of Irish men, but at the same time it’s a bit odd considering my field of work consists of me constantly interviewing people and I never lack confidence then. Of course, there has been the odd night where I’ve been so stotious that it’d take a brave girl to even talk to me!

On the flip side of the coin, there has been many an occasion where I’d be talking to a drunk girl when sober and could never tell whether it’d be right or wrong to make a move. Case in point was a couple of weeks ago when a girl was chatting me up, rubbing my arm, moving in closer etc. I had only a couple of pints on me and didn’t know whether I should lean or for a shift or vice versa (didn’t really matter in the end, she went in for the kill and succeeded!:pac:)

So basically female folk of AH, is it fact or fiction that women don’t like talking to drunks? And if they don’t, is because they be trippin’? And what’s the number one tell-tale sign that a girl is interested in a lad on a night out?

You should tell the ladies this, and also that you have many leather bound books and your apartment smells of rich mahogany.

WoollyRedHat

Women won't talk to Ducks... period. Drunk or sober.

Catxscotch

You obviously severly lack social skills, I mean Nobody, NOBODY writes in a larger font than 2. I mean, come on!

On another note, hate drunk lads on a night out..mess

kylith

No woman wants to be chatted up by someone barely able to stand, who's slurring their words, and is obviously ****faced. Someone who's had a drink or two; that's fine.

haminka

I find the sight of drunk people disgusting and when I had to talk to a drunk person, at a business function or something like that, I had to work hard to overcome my disgust and actually be civil with them. So no, any guy who attempts to chat me up would have to be sober or gets ignored.

castletownman

When I say I need to be "drunk" to start conversation, I mean I need to be merry. I know exactly when I've passed the threshold between merry and drunk, unlike a lot of my friends

El Horseboxo

Irish men without alcohol are shy as fúck when it comes to meeting girls. When I moved here I was already used to a dating culture from 14 years old. So from a young age the confidence to talk to and approach girls was there. Helped a lot with my school being mixed. Which very few are here. Well in Dublin anyways. The catholic church is probably to blame for a lot of the sexual repression too. The subject seems very taboo in a lot of Irish families and kids grow up without much confidence in the subject.

I couldn't believe it when friends would say they like a certain girl and I'd tell them to go ask her out. And they'd make excuses. Same when out in bars. They'd say they'll get a few more drinks in first. Which always seemed to help them. From my experience girls don't like drunk sloppy fellas. They like confidence so if you can gain that from a few pints without being too visibly drunk you should be golden. You shouldn't really need drink to meet girls though.

Naomi00

Steven81 wrote: »

If you dont try you wont succeed but the problem is in Ireland that so many girls think they are the best thing that ever walked when they are the complete opposite and wont even have a conversation let alone anything else.

Talk to ones in the pub and you wont have a problem, excess drink and you will.

I hate guys with this stupid attitude. There's probably loads of reasons why they didn't want to talk to you, yet you can tar every girl with the same brush and be all high and mighty.

SunnyDub1

Steven81 wrote: »

problem is in Ireland that so many girls think they are the best thing that ever walked when they are the complete opposite and wont even have a conversation let alone anything else.

Emm maybe they just don't feel the need to start a conversation with you..
or they're just not interested in you :rolleyes:

castletownman

Dravokivich wrote: »

I don't think you know the difference between Sober, Merry or Drunk.

Under no circumstances in your OP were you Sober or Drunk. You just lack social skills. Work on that and you'll be knee deep in clunge in no time.

Oh by the way, I'm not looking for advice on how to pull women. In fact, I've been on quite the run since I've been back on the market I'm just looking for a definitive answer to the question in the thread title.

Scanlas The 2nd

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Irish men without alcohol are shy as fúck when it comes to meeting girls. When I moved here I was already used to a dating culture from 14 years old. So from a young age the confidence to talk to and approach girls was there. Helped a lot with my school being mixed. Which very few are here. Well in Dublin anyways. The catholic church is probably to blame for a lot of the sexual repression too. The subject seems very taboo in a lot of Irish families and kids grow up without much confidence in the subject.

I couldn't believe it when friends would say they like a certain girl and I'd tell them to go ask her out. And they'd make excuses. Same when out in bars. They'd say they'll get a few more drinks in first. Which always seemed to help them. From my experience girls don't like drunk sloppy fellas. They like confidence so if you can gain that from a few pints without being too visibly drunk you should be golden. You shouldn't really need drink to meet girls though.

Yep, the good thing about that is you can really separate yourself from the crowd by approaching early in the night before everyone is drunk. You have no competition.

The King of Moo

castletownman wrote: »

Oh by the way, I'm not looking for advice on how to pull women. In fact, I've been on quite the run since I've been back on the market I'm just looking for a definitive answer to the question in the thread title.

I've figured it out now: the problem isn't being too drunk: it's that you're too modest. Sell yourself a little better! :pac:

castletownman

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Irish men without alcohol are shy as fúck when it comes to meeting girls. When I moved here I was already used to a dating culture from 14 years old. So from a young age the confidence to talk to and approach girls was there. Helped a lot with my school being mixed. Which very few are here. Well in Dublin anyways. The catholic church is probably to blame for a lot of the sexual repression too. The subject seems very taboo in a lot of Irish families and kids grow up without much confidence in the subject.

I couldn't believe it when friends would say they like a certain girl and I'd tell them to go ask her out. And they'd make excuses. Same when out in bars. They'd say they'll get a few more drinks in first. Which always seemed to help them. From my experience girls don't like drunk sloppy fellas. They like confidence so if you can gain that from a few pints without being too visibly drunk you should be golden. You shouldn't really need drink to meet girls though.

That is exactly what I'm trying to say. Obviously didn't come across that way in the OP

Dravokivich

castletownman wrote: »

Oh by the way, I'm not looking for advice on how to pull women. In fact, I've been on quite the run since I've been back on the market I'm just looking for a definitive answer to the question in the thread title.

heh, only threw that last bit in as the ultimate result of fixing yourself up with talking to women. Incentivise ya know?

Ickle Magoo

I don't think there is a definitive answer to the title..."drunks" is just too vague.

Is it drunk women, drunk male friends, drunk strangers, bit cheery drunk, falling over drunk, general chat or full-on chat up?

Nobody wants to be lumbered with the dribbling social retard who thinks they're god's gift when they hit the eight pint mark...on the other hand I think few would mind chatting to folks with a few in them, especially in a club where they are probably in much the same state...I think it all depends on whether the drunk person crosses (or is able to tell) where the line between entertaining and pest lies.

foxyboxer

Approaching and talking to women in Ireland is generally done in a pub.
So it will involve alcohol to some degree.

Try approaching a woman on the street to realise why.

dark crystal

castletownman wrote: »

My auld lad insists that when it comes to socializing, women do not want to talk to drunks. I don’t know whether to agree with him or not. The thing is I’m relatively attractive, well-read, articulate and intelligent but I can’t for the life of me get talking to a girl on a night out without having two or three “buffer” pints in me first.

Hold the front page - Samantha Brick has turned gay :eek:

paddyandy

Nobody want's a drunk for company unless there is an agenda .

foxyboxer

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Irish men without alcohol are shy as fúck when it comes to meeting girls. When I moved here I was already used to a dating culture from 14 years old. So from a young age the confidence to talk to and approach girls was there. Helped a lot with my school being mixed. Which very few are here. Well in Dublin anyways. The catholic church is probably to blame for a lot of the sexual repression too. The subject seems very taboo in a lot of Irish families and kids grow up without much confidence in the subject.

I couldn't believe it when friends would say they like a certain girl and I'd tell them to go ask her out. And they'd make excuses. Same when out in bars. They'd say they'll get a few more drinks in first. Which always seemed to help them. From my experience girls don't like drunk sloppy fellas. They like confidence so if you can gain that from a few pints without being too visibly drunk you should be golden. You shouldn't really need drink to meet girls though.

That's the thing with confidence though. You can have very high self esteem and be quietly confident, however this can be misconstrued as shyness in a social setting. You can be sitting in a corner in a pub with a confident demeanour and go home for a five finger shuffle all the same.

It takes a bit of balls, if you will, to approach women (usually in groups) in a bar.

Overcoming the old chestnut of the fear of rejection gets drowned in booze in a way,..

44leto

kylith wrote: »

No woman wants to be chatted up by someone barely able to stand, who's slurring their words, and is obviously ****faced. Someone who's had a drink or two; that's fine.

But But I am more charming and interesting when pissed, do you come here often just sounds so much better.

I never minded drunk people unless they were absolutely stocious, but coke heads, I just tell them to F-off there is simply nothing worse than been talked to, in gibberish and gibberish at 90MPH. Party and social drug my arse.

Mr Benevolent

haminka wrote: »

I find the sight of drunk people disgusting and when I had to talk to a drunk person, at a business function or something like that, I had to work hard to overcome my disgust and actually be civil with them.

I get the impression your monocle falls out whenever you see a drunk person.

foxyboxer

haminka wrote: »

I find the sight of drunk people disgusting and when I had to talk to a drunk person, at a business function or something like that, I had to work hard to overcome my disgust and actually be civil with them. So no, any guy who attempts to chat me up would have to be sober or gets ignored.

So someone who is merry can't chat you up either? Big gulf between sober as a judge and drunk as a skunk.

foxyboxer

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Irish men women without alcohol are shy as fúck when it comes to meeting girls. men

FYP

rambutman

I don't know.................sure it depends on the guys or gals involved...................i do know some girls have absolutely no problem pulling a really drunk guy...........a fair few times i've woken up beside someone i've no recollection of meeting, and she was sober enough in the first place (or so she said!). I've been asleep drunk before and my mates have told me some girls come over and started snogging me while i'm comatosed drunk. I had another incident with a girl who ended up basically stalking me for 2 months after a 1 night stand - she then started saying i took advantage of her by taking her home..........my argument was that on said night i was rubbered drunk and she was stone cold sober and i was taking advantage of her?!

I do have memories though of the look of horror on a girls face approaching them after ya open your mouth to say hello and all that comes out is a big HowssssAresssYassssss slur comes out.

I gave up drink full-stop a while back and one of my major fears was "how am i going to get laid"..............its not really a problem at all.............ya might have a little more footwork to do at the start, and if you're not drinking and she's not drinking chances off hopping straight into the leaba are diminished a bit but thats not always such a bad thing

haminka

foxyboxer wrote: »

So someone who is merry can't chat you up either? Big gulf between sober as a judge and drunk as a skunk.

depends on your definition of merry. generally, I don't mind talking to someone who is obviously under the influence of something and merry as a result for a short time but I wouldn't flirt with them or engage in any kind of discussion/fun with them. Simply have problem with people who are influenced by any kind of drug, alcohol including. I'm by no means a totally serious person but the best fun I ever had, it was always sober. Actually, watching people getting drunk and doing all sorts of stupid things is more fun than being drunk (and suffer the subsequent hangover the next day) myself.

shopaholic01

haminka wrote: »

depends on your definition of merry. generally, I don't mind talking to someone who is obviously under the influence of something and merry as a result for a short time but I wouldn't flirt with them or engage in any kind of discussion/fun with them. Simply have problem with people who are influenced by any kind of drug, alcohol including. I'm by no means a totally serious person but the best fun I ever had, it was always sober. Actually, watching people getting drunk and doing all sorts of stupid things is more fun than being drunk (and suffer the subsequent hangover the next day) myself.

I'd say you're great craic on a night out

4zn76tysfajdxp

foxyboxer wrote: »

Try approaching a woman on the street to realise why.

Have you?

haminka

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I'd say you're great craic on a night out

define craic

Scanlas The 2nd

Cameron Narrow Sacrifice wrote: »

foxyboxer wrote: »

Try approaching a woman on the street to realise why.

Have you?

I have and it can definitely be done.

Duggy747

It applies just the same to women with drunk lads but I can't stand being around drunk women.

That "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" screeching and the "Fùck you, I do what I want.....Imma woman!!" attitude on some really grates me.

shopaholic01

haminka wrote: »

define craic

Sober and therefore able to remember what the rest of us would much rather forget. I suppose it would eliminate ther flashbacks :eek::D.

IM0

I just want to say this thread will end well

El Horseboxo

The whole set up for approaching the opposite sex is quite backwards in this country to a degree. I know I mentioned confidence earlier but there isn't really a dating scene here so both sexes suffer because of it regardless of how confident you are.

A lot of lads don't have the confidence to approach girls sober and since most of the meetings of the opposite sex is done in pubs there is usually gonna be an element of alcohol involved. So it's always going to a crunch to lean on and prevent you from approaching girls outside of the pub because you know a bit of dutch courage works.

Then for the girls they are only usually approached in pubs so they are dealing with different levels of drunkenness. Which can easily become boring cause you're not really meeting the fella. You're meeting his representative. And his representative can either be a cúnt or a legend depending on alcohol intake for both parties. Also because girls aren't asked out in the same manner in their everyday life here as in the US for example they can appear or be quite stand off-ish which doesn't make it seem that easy for a guy to approach them. I know some girls that would think a fella is weird or would laugh at them If he came up and tried to talk to them or ask them out while out away from a pub.

haminka

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Sober and therefore able to remember what the rest of us would much rather forget. I suppose it would eliminate ther flashbacks :eek::D.

Well, having the ability to remember is good craic - for talks afterwards

Grayson

Naomi00 wrote: »

I hate guys with this stupid attitude. There's probably loads of reasons why they didn't want to talk to you, yet you can tar every girl with the same brush and be all high and mighty.

I've noticed it too. I'm not saying it's all irish girls. I've had great nights with irish girls I've just met that night. But I would say that if I was talking to a random girl in a pub, if they're friendly, they're less likely to be irish. Irish girls do seem more standoffish and materialistic than their foreign counterparts

StephenHendry

castletownman wrote: »

My auld lad insists that when it comes to socializing, women do not want to talk to drunks. I don’t know whether to agree with him or not. The thing is I’m relatively attractive, well-read, articulate and intelligent but I can’t for the life of me get talking to a girl on a night out without having two or three “buffer” pints in me first. Proof of the pudding is the fact that of any relationship I’ve had over the last six years or so, the initial contact was always made when under the influence. Maybe it’s a damning insight into me, or perhaps it’s common amongst a lot of Irish men, but at the same time it’s a bit odd considering my field of work consists of me constantly interviewing people and I never lack confidence then. Of course, there has been the odd night where I’ve been so stotious that it’d take a brave girl to even talk to me!

On the flip side of the coin, there has been many an occasion where I’d be talking to a drunk girl when sober and could never tell whether it’d be right or wrong to make a move. Case in point was a couple of weeks ago when a girl was chatting me up, rubbing my arm, moving in closer etc. I had only a couple of pints on me and didn’t know whether I should lean or for a shift or vice versa (didn’t really matter in the end, she went in for the kill and succeeded!:pac:)

So basically female folk of AH, is it fact or fiction that women don’t like talking to drunks? And if they don’t, is because they be trippin’? And what’s the number one tell-tale sign that a girl is interested in a lad on a night out?

love it OP you have put me in a good form for the weekend anyway , what do you mean by relatively attractive?

castletownman

Reading people's reaction to the question i've realised the quintessential difference between being merry and being drunk and the approach towards women. I could be there merrily talking to a girl getting on well when one of my friends could interrupt usually with a vodka and red bull in each hand and be loud drunk and obnoxious. Cue the look of disdain on the girl and me being left frustrated. That's why I generally pace myself on a night out!

jackdock88

castletownman wrote: »

Reading people's reaction to the question i've realised the quintessential difference between being merry and being drunk and the approach towards women. I could be there merrily talking to a girl getting on well when one of my friends could interrupt usually with a vodka and red bull in each hand and be loud drunk and obnoxious. Cue the look of disdain on the girl and me being left frustrated. That's why I generally pace myself on a night out!

you're dead right. nothing worse than chatting to a nice guy and then mr obnoxious friend comes over, all loudmouthed!

castletownman

StephenHendry wrote: »

castletownman wrote: »

My auld lad insists that when it comes to socializing, women do not want to talk to drunks. I don’t know whether to agree with him or not. The thing is I’m relatively attractive, well-read, articulate and intelligent but I can’t for the life of me get talking to a girl on a night out without having two or three “buffer” pints in me first. Proof of the pudding is the fact that of any relationship I’ve had over the last six years or so, the initial contact was always made when under the influence. Maybe it’s a damning insight into me, or perhaps it’s common amongst a lot of Irish men, but at the same time it’s a bit odd considering my field of work consists of me constantly interviewing people and I never lack confidence then. Of course, there has been the odd night where I’ve been so stotious that it’d take a brave girl to even talk to me!

On the flip side of the coin, there has been many an occasion where I’d be talking to a drunk girl when sober and could never tell whether it’d be right or wrong to make a move. Case in point was a couple of weeks ago when a girl was chatting me up, rubbing my arm, moving in closer etc. I had only a couple of pints on me and didn’t know whether I should lean or for a shift or vice versa (didn’t really matter in the end, she went in for the kill and succeeded!:pac:)

So basically female folk of AH, is it fact or fiction that women don’t like talking to drunks? And if they don’t, is because they be trippin’? And what’s the number one tell-tale sign that a girl is interested in a lad on a night out?

love it OP you have put me in a good form for the weekend anyway , what do you mean by relatively attractive?

It's a modest way of saying that I'm a ride

some random drunk

From experience, sober women want to talk to sober men. Drunk women will talk to anyone, even me.

Grayson

remember that episode of the simpsons where homer gets locked and marge gives out about it (I'm going to get more specific).
He remembers himself sitting around being the life of the party and everyone thinking he's smart & witty. Really he was locked and trashing the place.

people like the kind of drunk he thought he was. They hate the drunk he actually was. same with women.

kylith

44leto wrote: »

kylith wrote: »

No woman wants to be chatted up by someone barely able to stand, who's slurring their words, and is obviously ****faced. Someone who's had a drink or two; that's fine.

But But I am more charming and interesting when pissed, do you come here often just sounds so much better.

I never minded drunk people unless they were absolutely stocious, but coke heads, I just tell them to F-off there is simply nothing worse than been talked to, in gibberish and gibberish at 90MPH. Party and social drug my arse.

I dunno "ja cmere ofn darlin?" doesn't sound that great.