We Are The 99%

Freddie59

More relevant to Ireland now than it ever was before. Please feel free to add your own:

* We are not against the rich - we are against using wealth to gain an unfair advantage.

* We are not against Corporations - we are against Corporations governing us.

* We are not against Capitalism - we are against corruption in Capitalism.

* We are not against banks - we are against fraudulent banking practices.

* We are not against investment markets - we are against legalised fraud in the markets.

* We are not against democracy - we are against the sale of influence by our elected representatives.

I suppose a few that could be added for Ireland are:

* We are not against the Public Sector - we are against them not obeying the same economic rules as the Private Sector.

* We are not against the "Labour" Party - we are against them masquerading as "Socialists".

* We are not against bankers - we are against their privileged treatment and the obscene amounts of money they are paid.


Over to you folks.....

Gee Bag

I don't care.

I am the 1%.

I've had my fun.

Thats all that matters.

Augmerson

Logical Fallacy

I hate this use of the all inclusive "we".

Don't lump me in with vague dislikes thanks.

kirving

G'wan the 1%!

Which most of us are actually in if you live in Ireland, taking average incomes across the world into account.

wes

I don't see much use really, the game is rigged so to speak, and the rich will keep screwing over everyone else. Not much that can be done.

smash

Smell of poverty in this thread.

saa

It was your pontificating Pat..

Seachmall

* We are not against ready salted - we just prefer salt and vinegar!

Scuba_Scoper

Freddie59 wrote: »

More relevant to Ireland now than it ever was before. Please feel free to add your own:

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Yeah but with your i7 Mac and your holidays in Lake Garda and your fast internet connection and an iPhone (i briefly looked at your post history) do you REALLY consider yourself part of the downtrodden 99%
:rolleyes:

Seachmall

Scuba_Scoper wrote: »

Yeah but with your i7 Mac and your holidays in Lake Garda and your fast internet connection and an iPhone (i briefly looked at your post history) do you REALLY consider yourself part of the downtrodden 99%
:rolleyes:

But the man is stuck using Photoshop CS2!

It's not humane I tell you!!

Jesus Shaves

Scuba_Scoper wrote: »

Yeah but with your i7 Mac and your holidays in Lake Garda and your fast internet connection and an iPhone (i briefly looked at your post history) do you REALLY consider yourself part of the downtrodden 99%
:rolleyes:

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Augmerson

We are actually the 1%. If you take the whole world as an example. Imagine the populations of Africa, South America, Central and South-east Asia doing a Occupy Wall street. They're the ones who make our clothes, feed us, provide us with natural resources and cheap labour so we can carry on the way we do.

I'm for the status quo. Do you know how hard it is to make a pair of Nike trainers? There's a reason children are left to do this thing, it's ****ing hard.

preddy

I'm in the 99% of ppl trying to get into the 1%

Freddie59

Scuba_Scoper wrote: »

Yeah but with your i7 Mac and your holidays in Lake Garda and your fast internet connection and an iPhone (i briefly looked at your post history) do you REALLY consider yourself part of the downtrodden 99%
:rolleyes:

Meooowwww.:D Do I detect a hint of jealousy there my friend? They came in our 50s, after we had the long slog of rearing a young family and paying through the nose for everything.

I don't smoke, have the odd social drink, so what you have listed above is what I choose to spend my money on. Probably unlike yourself.

The post is meant to highlight what the 1% are actually getting away with (it's actually more in Ireland I'd say). But hey, be a begrudger if you want.:)

jaja321

I am not against freedom of speech – I am against continual ranting about the same topic over and over and over and over and over again...

opinion guy

Oh dear not this again....:rolleyes:

Freddie59

jaja321 wrote: »

I am not against freedom of speech – I am against continual ranting about the same topic ECONOMIC RAPE OF THE IRISH WORKER over and over and over and over and over again...

There. FYP.:)

summerskin

I love being in the 1%.



*time for some champagne and foie gras followed by oral pleasure from my swedish assistant, Astrid Luvindekum. Ah, lunch, the best of times....

WindSock

I've got 99 problems and being in the 99% ain't one of them.

Having no flake on my ice cream is one of them.

Gurgle

Freddie59 wrote: »

They came in our 50s, after we had the long slog of rearing a young family and paying through the nose for everything.

I don't smoke, have the odd social drink, so what you have listed above is what I choose to spend my money on. Probably unlike yourself.

The post is meant to highlight what the 1% are actually getting away with

The 1% justify their entitlement :P

Scuba_Scoper

Freddie59 wrote: »

Meooowwww.:D Do I detect a hint of jealousy there my friend? They came in our 50s, after we had the long slog of rearing a young family and paying through the nose for everything.

I don't smoke, have the odd social drink, so what you have listed above is what I choose to spend my money on. Probably unlike yourself.

The post is meant to highlight what the 1% are actually getting away with (it's actually more in Ireland I'd say). But hey, be a begrudger if you want.:)

Jealousy - you decide. I only have an i5 Macbook Pro but is sufficient for my needs. I holidayed myself near Peschera on the lakes last year and was impressed enough with the place to purchase a holiday villa last December. Hey it's only an hour from Switzerland right? and the snow boarding is to die for.

I am only in my 40's and am also raising a family but I pay for what is best for them and don't begrudge a penny of it as I see it as an investment in their future.
I do smoke and enjoy it -don't drink though except for champagne at wedddings, a sheery at christmas etc.

My post is meant to highlight the fact that far from being in the downtrodden 99%, you, like me, have a very substantial disposable income and your speaking on behalf of the 99% is quite frankly laughable.

Am I a begrudger? No. I don't think so.

counterlock

Freddie59 wrote: »

There. FYP.:)

You sound familiar... Are you P Flynn by any chance?

Freddie59

Scuba_Scoper wrote: »

Jealousy - you decide. I only have an i5 Macbook Pro but is sufficient for my needs. I holidayed myself near Peschera on the lakes last year and was impressed enough with the place to purchase a holiday villa last December. Hey it's only an hour from Switzerland right? and the snow boarding is to die for.

I am only in my 40's and am also raising a family but I pay for what is best for them and don't begrudge a penny of it as I see it as an investment in their future.
I do smoke and enjoy it -don't drink though except for champagne at wedddings, a sheery at christmas etc.

My post is meant to highlight the fact that far from being in the downtrodden 99%, you, like me, have a very substantial disposable income and your speaking on behalf of the 99% is quite frankly laughable.

Am I a begrudger? No. I don't think so.

You certainly come across as it. The post, as I have said, adequately reflects what's going on in Ireland at the present time. Am i downtrodden? I certainly feel like I am, given the preferential treatment afforded to others in our society, such as politicians, bankers, PS/CS workers, etc.

And you have a bit of a neck, TBH, lecturing anyone, given what you've posted above.:) It depends on what you class as "substantial disposable income".

A week's holiday in Lake Garda costing €800 approx, while you purchased a villa? In your 40s? And was it by cash or mortgage? Because, somehow, I don't see anyone OUTSIDE the banking system getting a mortgage for a foreign holiday home these days.

Good luck to you. Wish it was me. But put your brain in gear in future before castigating others.

foxyboxer

Isn't being 99% of the 1% actually a good thing as opposed to actually being poor?

YraggarY

Freddie59 wrote: »

More relevant to Ireland now than it ever was before. Please feel free to add your own:

* We are not against the rich - we are against using wealth to gain an unfair advantage.

* We are not against Corporations - we are against Corporations governing us.

* We are not against Capitalism - we are against corruption in Capitalism.

* We are not against banks - we are against fraudulent banking practices.

* We are not against investment markets - we are against legalised fraud in the markets.

* We are not against democracy - we are against the sale of influence by our elected representatives.

I suppose a few that could be added for Ireland are:

* We are not against the Public Sector - we are against them not obeying the same economic rules as the Private Sector.

* We are not against the "Labour" Party - we are against them masquerading as "Socialists".

* We are not against bankers - we are against their privileged treatment and the obscene amounts of money they are paid.


Over to you folks.....

I'm a complete and utter Capitalist, but I'm finding myself increasingly drawn to the ideology of Agorism. You may want to check it out: http://humanadvancement.net/blog/index.php?itemid=247

KeithAFC

I do wish people would stop thinking the world owes them a living. It is just self pitty stuff at times. You can't have a fair world as it would not work. It is as simple as that.

Freddie59

KeithAFC wrote: »

I do wish people would stop thinking the world owes them a living. It is just self pitty stuff at times. You can't have a fair world as it would not work. It is as simple as that.

The unfair one doesn't seem to be working either.:rolleyes:

KeithAFC

Freddie59 wrote: »

The unfair one doesn't seem to be working either.:rolleyes:

It is working perfectly fine. A few are rich and most are poor. The way it should be. If you want to get into the rich list, then go and earn it. No one is going to hand it to you.

Freddie59

KeithAFC wrote: »

It is working perfectly fine. A few are rich and most are poor. The way it should be. If you want to get into the rich list, then go and earn it. No one is going to hand it to you.

Ah Keith. A big a WUM as ever......:rolleyes:

humbert

Why do I always read posts like that in a dirty inner-city Dublin accent, and find myself finishing with 'Joe'.

MagicSean

Scuba_Scoper wrote: »

Yeah but with your i7 Mac and your holidays in Lake Garda and your fast internet connection and an iPhone (i briefly looked at your post history) do you REALLY consider yourself part of the downtrodden 99%
:rolleyes:

Pow. Right in the Kisser.

starviewadams

That 'We are the 99%' slogan crap just reminds me of the eejits who were camped outside the Central Bank for a few months,if they're the 99% then I'll gladly be the 1%

KeithAFC

Freddie59 wrote: »

Ah Keith. A big a WUM as ever......:rolleyes:

You just don't want to hear it. People are only sick of the system when it goes through a rough patch. When it is booming and working, people love it. Go with the rough and the smooth.

Freddie59

KeithAFC wrote: »

You just don't want to hear it. People are only sick of the system when it goes through a rough patch. When it is booming and working, people love it. Go with the rough and the smooth.

Define "rough patch"?

Freddie59

starviewadams wrote: »

That 'We are the 99%' slogan crap just reminds me of the eejits who were camped outside the Central Bank for a few months,if they're the 99% then I'll gladly be the 1%

Yeah, they came across as eejits. But their core message was very close to the bone. Maybe the eejits are the rest of us who take it up the ass from Inda, Happy Gilmore, & Co. and do nothing about it?

Kensington

The real scandal here is where does atari jaguar fit in between the 99% and the 1%?

foxyboxer

MagicSean wrote: »

Pow. Right in the KisserRhetoric.

fyp :cool:

Freddie59

MagicSean wrote: »

Pow. Right in the Kisser.

Nah. He missed, Sean!:D

old_aussie

Runs off to get towel and violin

foxyboxer

OP, if you were given a cheque for €250,000 (no questions asked), would you still feel the same way?

KeithAFC

Freddie59 wrote: »

Define "rough patch"?

Same as always. Mass unemployment, people struggling to find work, people questioning the system. But it will all be quiet again when jobs are created again and people are back in work again and the enableable boom will come along. People spending money constantly, enjoying the good times. And then comes the down times again. Rinse and repeat.

davet82

I thought i was broke before the country went donw the shyte pipe, now i think i know what being broke is but if ya shipped me off to some shyte poor african country then i'd know what being broke is...

point is some one is always better off than you but you are always better off than somebody else... how full is your glass

Scuba_Scoper

Freddie59 wrote: »

You certainly come across as it.
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Am i downtrodden? I certainly feel like I am, given the preferential treatment afforded to others in our society, such as politicians, bankers, PS/CS workers, etc.
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And that my learned, downtrodden friend is the definition, nay, the very essence of begrudgery.

Pot, kettle etc.

opinion guy

KeithAFC wrote: »

It is working perfectly fine. A few are rich and most are poor. The way it should be. If you want to get into the rich list, then go and earn it. No one is going to hand it to you.

As much as the 99% rubbish annoys me, this attitude equally annoys me. People like you Keith don't realise how lucky you are. Not everyone has opportunity to escape poverity - the odds are too stacked against them, be it through disadvantage, lack of education, illhealth, war, family problems etc etc.

The system needs to recognize this and pure capitalist systems don't.

Stinicker

opinion guy wrote: »

As much as the 99% rubbish annoys me, this attitude equally annoys me. People like you Keith don't realise how lucky you are. Not everyone has opportunity to escape poverity - the odds are too stacked against them, be it through disadvantage, lack of education, illhealth, war, family problems etc etc.

The system needs to recognize this and pure capitalist systems don't.

I've been to poor countries, however I can say one thing for certain whatever it is about being a poor country their people are far happier that we are at home, Irish people are quite depressed and the financial crippling situation is to blame. You never miss something you never had, but to go boom to bust is disastrous and we have huge inflation and the cost of everything relative to income leaves us massively poor in real wealth terms.

foxyboxer

If you were in the civil service, rented and drove a low spec car during the boom, you were deemed a loser.

Now during a recession, you are entitled, lucky and smug.

Lose-Lose.

TwoShedsJackson

KeithAFC wrote: »

enableable

A perfectly cromulent word.

FatherLen

i really am confused about this whole 99% malark.
i know what it is but the people that seem to be spouting it off are the same people that posted all those kony videos. it's a fad. it's cool to say "we are the 99%". it just really annoys me.

barleybooley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28yFxLydzU&feature=related

"What do you think is my share?"

"sgjsgsdgshjgksjfg"

Gah, she's so annoying!

Agricola

In summary, is the standard of living and general quality of life in Ireland far better than in a country like Angola, even for the poorer members of society? - Yes.

Does this fact legitimize the proliferation of unbridled casino capitalism, the corruption of public representatives and the devastating effects of boom/bust economics on society as a whole -
No it does not.