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What's stopping an incident like the Norweigan massacre happening here?

  • 20-04-2012 12:32am
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    Registered Users Posts: 21


    It got me thinking over the last few days considering it's been in the news.

    The fact that Norway is one of the most peaceful and crime free nations in the world yet is still susceptible to acts of domestic terrorism such as what happened last July.

    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?

    It could just as easily happen could it not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,511 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    tebowfan wrote: »
    It got me thinking over the last few days considering it's been in the news.

    The fact that Norway is one of the most peaceful and crime free nations in the world yet is still susceptible to acts of domestic terrorism such as what happened last July.

    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?

    It could just as easily happen could it not?


    Well...what if you slipped on a bar of soap in the tub?

    My God, you'd be killed!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Let us pray it happens (the blowing up of buildings) no deaths please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Of course it could. People be crazy.

    Though Irish people are notoriously lazy, so ah..it'll be grand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    Of course it could happen here, as it could in any civilised western country


    Anybody could commit a crime, that's the easy part...it's getting away with it that's the difficult part


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    tebowfan wrote: »
    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?
    We do all our terroristin' on the internet now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    tebowfan wrote: »
    It got me thinking over the last few days considering it's been in the news.

    The fact that Norway is one of the most peaceful and crime free nations in the world yet is still susceptible to acts of domestic terrorism such as what happened last July.

    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?

    It could just as easily happen could it not?
    Not much is stopping it I guess, but unless you want to adopt the rather invasive and privacy-compromising measures introduced in other countries (like the UK) then we'll have to live with it.
    Let us pray it happens (the blowing up of buildings) no deaths please
    Let us pray destruction of valuable government buildings happens? Here, blame the people inside the buildings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭beco2010


    didnt irish poeple go trough blowing buildings up being shot in numbers already


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Just getting my gear ready now. Keep an eye on the 6.1 news ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭seantorious


    Well for one thing this isn't Norway. It would be an Irish massacre not a Norwegian massacre


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    must be the ninjas I reckon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    I blame "World of Warcraft";)


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Though Irish people are notoriously lazy, so ah..it'll be grand.

    Speak for yourself, bud. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Laziness and people being worried their mates would slag them down the pub for having ambitions.

    "Oooh, genocide yer moving into is it? Very fancy altogether. Have a pint and cop yourself on there Mick...:rolleyes:"


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    hopefully in a dole queue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Speak for yourself, bud. :rolleyes:

    Nah, laaaaaad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Kurz


    Well petty begrudgery and backbiting takes up most of our time and at night we just like a cup of tea. I'm not sure we'd be able to commit fully to the old right-wing nationalistic massacring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    I've met a few folks in old jobs where I thought "I'll just be reeeeeeal nice to this gentlemen cuz I still havent figured out how to out run or dodge bullets yet". They were the kind who had tiny pupils, wide eyed and had the same little smile on their faces at all times. They actually could smell fear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    Because our disgruntled folk, when consumed by anger - just summon up old A-Team episodes for their explosive inspiration and head for Leinster House aboard decorated cement trucks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    The Guards would pepper-spray the hole off you if you attempted to do anything like that.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Airsoft.

    It seems to distract those who would ordinarily have access to strange agendas and high firepower towards ****ting on on the internet about which type of camouflage the Elite Special Awesome Rangers Branch of the Finnish Svaeeerrgskjairgl wore in 1982, whilst talking about shooting each other with plastic ****ing balls.

    And then comes trying to find a replica of said uniform in size 56 Lard....


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    Humans eh! wrote: »
    The Guards would pepper-spray the hole off you...

    *squirms uncomfortably in seat*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    i'm in the middle of a year out, been playing world of warcraft all the time & modern warfare as well. Haven't the time for it now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    It tends to be wet out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    tebowfan wrote: »
    It got me thinking over the last few days considering it's been in the news.

    The fact that Norway is one of the most peaceful and crime free nations in the world yet is still susceptible to acts of domestic terrorism such as what happened last July.

    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?

    It could just as easily happen could it not?

    silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Nikky_Bellic


    tebowfan wrote: »
    It got me thinking over the last few days considering it's been in the news.

    The fact that Norway is one of the most peaceful and crime free nations in the world yet is still susceptible to acts of domestic terrorism such as what happened last July.

    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?

    It could just as easily happen could it not?


    Nothing stopping it from happening.
    That Anders Breivik is a nut job. But equallly, we could have an Irish nutjob do the same over here. The only way to stop that would have checkpoints every 20 feet. Which cant happen. As it would invade peoples freedom and create an controlling state.

    But it just goes to show you I guess. I mean, life is dog eat dog, every man for themselves. But! stuff like this doesnt happen everyday. So while I believe the world is one f**ked up place, I guess it aint that f**ked up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    Emmm...isn't the bomb squad called out on a regular basis and if I recall correctly there were (and still are) several armed paramilitary forces knocking around as well as several large armed criminal gangs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Most of these killing sprees end in the guy being arrested or killed. That wouldn't happen here. So the killer would just get bored.

    It's the risk of boredom that's preventing it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge




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  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭haminka


    Alcohol is still cheaper in Ireland so there is a bigger probability, someone with a grudge would go to a pub and get dead drunk instead of playing World of Warcraft for a year. I can't imagine an Irish guy doing that, imagine the nights out, the hangover, going out with friends etc ...
    Seriously, I think it's a different mentality, also, the Irish can't really be obsessed with their good Aryan looks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    hopefully in a dole queue

    Yeah, because thats where ye'll find all those to blame for our current problems....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Yeah I mean imagine an act of terrorism in Ireland. It's unthinkable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    We could do with a Michael Stone type getting loose in Leinster House for an hour or two with plenty of ammo... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    We could do with a Michael Stone type getting loose in Leinster House for an hour or two with plenty of ammo... :P


    .....sure he wouldn't get past the lads in the glasshouse at the gate. And besides, theres enough performance artists in there as is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Whilst there are plenty of guns in Ireland, to get your hands on a high powered rifle as used in Norway would be extremely difficult. If you were to try to use Granpappys old double barrell shotgun it'd be like being stoned to death with popcorn.

    DISCLAIMER : Kids, don't do guns..... or drugs...... drugs and/or guns are a no no*




    *Jack Daniels and other over the counter alcoholic beverage drinks are exempt from this say no to drugs policy.... and so are Wham Bars


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It kinda happened already when that fella parked his truck in front of those gates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    tebowfan wrote: »
    What's stopping an Irish equivalent from embarking on a rampage and blowing up government buildings over here?
    The Good Friday Agreement.
    The Irish nutjobs are mostly kept in check by their respective political organizations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Because nobody in Ireland gives a **** about the stuff Breivik cares about, except socialist crusties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    We're too complacent in this country, that's whats stopping a massacre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Dermighty wrote: »
    Because nobody in Ireland gives a **** about the stuff Breivik cares about, except socialist crusties.

    ???????????????????????????????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    When Dunnes stop selling €1 pack of donuts I'll blow you all to hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Dermighty wrote: »
    Because nobody in Ireland gives a **** about the stuff Breivik cares about, except socialist crusties.
    ???????????????????????????????

    Unsurprisingly, even with the wealth of information that the internet affords, some people are just content to remain blindingly ignorant.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Dermighty has a good point but wait until we can't pay our bills ...not much else annoys us very much .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2




  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    Dermighty wrote: »
    Because nobody in Ireland gives a **** about the stuff Breivik cares about, except socialist crusties.

    Don't you realise that the stuff Brievik cares about is the almost exact opposite of what socialist crusties care about?

    Or that the two parties care about the things very opposing reasons?

    Your comment is ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭battle_hardend


    the only thing stopping a repeat of what happened in norway is the ban on ownership of high powered weapons , that said , if someone was determined enough , they could source such hardware through the underworld

    our mental health laws were significantly changed around a decade ago so the kind of people who would have been in an institution thirty years ago , are now living free , i dont mean dangerous people were let out but thier are deranged people born every year and unless they commit harm , they are not institutionalised anymore


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Cheap alcohol and a woeful broadband connection


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Robbo wrote: »
    Airsoft.

    It seems to distract those who would ordinarily have access to strange agendas and high firepower towards ****ting on on the internet about which type of camouflage the Elite Special Awesome Rangers Branch of the Finnish Svaeeerrgskjairgl wore in 1982, whilst talking about shooting each other with plastic ****ing balls.

    And then comes trying to find a replica of said uniform in size 56 Lard....

    Airsoft just encourages lads from places like Tipperary to think they can take on Latin American armies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Robbo wrote: »
    Airsoft.

    It seems to distract those who would ordinarily have access to strange agendas and high firepower towards ****ting on on the internet about which type of camouflage the Elite Special Awesome Rangers Branch of the Finnish Svaeeerrgskjairgl wore in 1982, whilst talking about shooting each other with plastic ****ing balls.

    And then comes trying to find a replica of said uniform in size 56 Lard....

    Actually there's an emergency law from ( I think) the early days of the state when the IRA were giving the free state awful gyp that any military drilling or training was illegal. I've often wondered if the airsoft boys could be seen as contravening that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,721 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Let us pray it happens (the blowing up of buildings) no deaths please

    You want buildings to be blown up? You want people to lose jobs, someones property destroyed etc etc?


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