PedalToPoland is a scam?

Vodka Princess

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a bunch of lads who are using charity as an excuse to get a free trip to the euros?
If it was really all in the name of charity would all the money they're spending on accommodation, flights, food etc not be better given to the charity.
We'd all love to go to the euros but using the pretence of charity as a way is a bit wrong I think.
Bunch of chancers if you ask me.
Anyone feel the same?

counterlock

I read the title of the thread wrong...


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whiskeyman

Each cyclist is asked to raise €3000 to take part in the trip and help us reach our overall goal of €50,000

The charities will benefits massively from this.
It's all about getting promotion, and they're obviously doing a good job.

GavRedKing

Ya I think any event where your basically paying to send a group or individuals away on a holiday of a life time is a bit of dupe but if ya dont want to contribute then dont, its similar to people asking for sponsorship to fly half way around th world to climb a mountain.

danniemcq

yeah they should just cycle there and back and not see any football....

you need some reward for charity, the whole way through life we see it. sposored parachute jump, MS readathon, tax breaks etc.

There are some exceptions (shave or dye for example) but they still have a fun element and you usally get a few pints to boot.

OP why didn't you sign up or offer to do it too?

Seachmall

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Anyone feel the same?

Yup, I only donate to charity collectors who self mutilate.

Vodka Princess

Seachmall wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Anyone feel the same?

Yup, I only donate to charity collectors who self mutilate.

Good for you!

Vodka Princess

danniemcq wrote: »

yeah they should just cycle there and back and not see any football....

you need some reward for charity, the whole way through life we see it. sposored parachute jump, MS readathon, tax breaks etc.

There are some exceptions (shave or dye for example) but they still have a fun element and you usally get a few pints to boot.

OP why didn't you sign up or offer to do it too?

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

danniemcq

Vodka Princess wrote: »

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

no chancers are the lads from Cavan who were on today fm who pretty much blagged their way.

these lads cycling? thats an effort and i say fair play

hardCopy

Vodka Princess wrote: »

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

So let someone else sponsor them and give your money directly to the charity

Vodka Princess

hardCopy wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

So let someone else sponsor them and give your money directly to the charity

I will thanks, doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion on it too!

Skid

danniemcq wrote: »

you need some reward for charity, the whole way through life we see it.

No you don't, when I want to donate to Charity I will send them cash directly.

Not via a Holiday Fundraising event where it is never clear how much of my donation will ever get to the Charity.

Fed up with these 'Holiday of a Lifetime' Charity trips, I won't be donating to any more of them.

Seachmall

People who wouldn't normally donate to charity do for these one-off events, and the person raising the money gets to do something they wouldn't normally do, and the charity gets donations it wouldn't have otherwise gotten.

Everyone benefits, don't see why it would be an issue.

Skid

Seachmall wrote: »

People who wouldn't normally donate to charity do for these one-off events, and the person raising the money gets to do something they wouldn't normally do, and the charity gets donations it wouldn't have otherwise gotten.

Everyone benefits, don't see why it would be an issue.

But how much goes to the Charity once the Holiday is paid for? Not much, I suspect.

Lots of people with Brass Necks do these schemes to fund their lifestyles and then pressure their friends into supporting them.

Lando Griffin

I hope none of them expect to collect job seekers allowance while they are doing this cycle.

Seachmall

Skid wrote: »

But how much goes to the Charity once the Holiday is paid for? Not much, I suspect.

More than if they didn't do it I'd imagine (in most cases, at least).

biko

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Bunch of chancers if you ask me.

Tbh, no-one was asking you.
You voluntarily registered to boards to start this thread to try to throw doubt on the charity.

Vodka Princess

Seachmall wrote: »

People who wouldn't normally donate to charity do for these one-off events, and the person raising the money gets to do something they wouldn't normally do, and the charity gets donations it wouldn't have otherwise gotten.

Everyone benefits, don't see why it would be an issue.

This is more heavily weighing on the person gettin to do something they wouldn't usually get to do though, and using charity as an excuse.
Pretending they're great people doing work for charity when really it's for their own gain!

AboutTwoFiddy

I like to complain about all charities and fundraising efforts and use those complaints as a way to feel good about never eva donating.

Seachmall

Vodka Princess wrote: »

This is more heavily weighing on the person gettin to do something they wouldn't usually get to do though, and using charity as an excuse.
Pretending they're great people doing work for charity when really it's for their own gain!

Perhaps.

But everybody benefits.

You don't want to donate to them then don't donate. But regardless of their true intentions everybody benefits. If they didn't do it then the charity wouldn't get the money they would have raised.

It's a win-win.

Vodka Princess

biko wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Bunch of chancers if you ask me.

Tbh, no-one was asking you.
You voluntarily registered to boards to start this thread to try to throw doubt on the charity.

Lucky I said IF you ask me then isn't it.
I also wouldn't really call this a charity, just a bunch of lads wanting to watch football and using charity as a way to do it.
Id say half of them will never do any 'charity' again after this trip of a lifetime

Seachmall

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Id say half of them will never do any 'charity' again after this trip of a lifetime

Well that's just speculation, they could all be volunteers for Concern (or whatever charity) on the weekends for all you know.

And even if they don't do any charity work again it's more reason for them to do this now.

Vodka Princess

Seachmall wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Id say half of them will never do any 'charity' again after this trip of a lifetime

Well that's just speculation, they could all be volunteers for Concern (or whatever charity) on the weekends for all you know.

And even if they don't do any charity work again it's more reason for them to do this now.

Why not cycle around Ireland for charity, why, because they wouldn't get to see the football.

Seachmall

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Why not cycle around Ireland for charity, why, because they wouldn't get to see the football.

Maybe.

Or because it's a great opportunity to raise awareness.

From the site.

Why did you choose a breast cancer charity and why Poland?

It is an important cause for two members of the team, who have friends and relatives who sadly developed the disease.

How can I donate?

We’ve set up an account on justgiving.com which manages the donations. Click on the image below to see this page. All money donated via justgiving will go directly to the charity Wear it Pink.

The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!

- Pedal2Poland - About

There you go.

Could have at least Googled them before you dismissed them as chancers.

philstar

don't get posts # 2 & 3 what am i looking at

AboutTwoFiddy

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Why not cycle around Ireland for charity, why, because they wouldn't get to see the football.

Because there are tons of charities that already cycle around Ireland raising money.

I really don't know what your problem is. When people raise money for charity this way it's normally their friends and family that donate, it won't cost you a cent. Even if they manage to hand over €50 to the charity, isn't it better than sitting on their holes and doing nothing but complain about other people that have the drive to do something? Damn right it is.

Vodka Princess

Seachmall wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Why not cycle around Ireland for charity, why, because they wouldn't get to see the football.

Maybe.

Or because it's a great opportunity to raise awareness.

From the site.

Why did you choose a breast cancer charity and why Poland?

It is an important cause for two members of the team, who have friends and relatives who sadly developed the disease.

How can I donate?

We’ve set up an account on justgiving.com which manages the donations. Click on the image below to see this page. All money donated via justgiving will go directly to the charity Wear it Pink.

The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!

- Pedal2Poland - About

There you g
Could have at least Googled them before you dismissed them as chancers.

What makes you think I didn't Google them first. I did as it happens, but im not convinced.

The money spent on equipment, travel would be better given to the charity directly.
Why go all the way to Poland.

Plazaman

I think it's about the same as the likes of the Niall Mellon trust or any of these build for Africa programmes. You raise a minimum of €3,000, the organisers get group discounts on accomodation and travel so between half and three quarters of the money still gets to the charity who will benefit.

And they're cycling to Poland FFS. That's a long way. The least they deserve is to get to see a match.

Micky Dolenz

Do you take you vodka with bitter lemon?

Vodka Princess

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Do you take you vodka with bitter lemon?

No on the rocks actually, and I don't use charity money to pay for them :-)

Micky Dolenz

On the rocks, nice.

I skydived for charity. They got money, I got the thrill of a life time. Win win.

El Horseboxo

I'm normally very skeptical of charities that are run like a business and donate directly to ones that I know where the money is going having learned about them. I also hate all that sponsor me so I can climb the Kilamanjaro crap too. But these lads are paying for all their own expenses and are donating all received money to their charity. They are using a 3rd party donation site, have a money received counter and have a lot of eyes on them now thanks to the exposure. They just seem like they used the Euro's to gain that exposure.

opinion guy

Vodka Princess wrote: »

What makes you think I didn't Google them first. I did as it happens, but im not convinced.

The money spent on equipment, travel would be better given to the charity directly.
Why go all the way to Poland.

ok I never heard of this charity before this thread and don't really have any opinion as a result.

But....doens't it say there that they are paying the costs of travel themselves ? So what money are you talking about spent on equipment and travel ? It says they are paying for that themselves !?


Are you one of their bitter other halves or sometinhg ?

Vodka Princess

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I'm normally very skeptical of charities that are run like a business and donate directly to ones that I know where the money is going having learned about them. I also hate all that sponsor me so I can climb the Kilamanjaro crap too. But these lads are paying for all their own expenses and are donating all received money to their charity. They are using a 3rd party donation site, have a money received counter and have a lot of eyes on them now thanks to the exposure. They just seem like they used the Euro's to gain that exposure.

Does it say anywhere on pedal2Poland.com that they're paying for all their expenses?
Is part of the sponsorship money raised not goin on this

Vodka Princess

opinion guy wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

What makes you think I didn't Google them first. I did as it happens, but im not convinced.

The money spent on equipment, travel would be better given to the charity directly.
Why go all the way to Poland.

ok I never heard of this charity before this thread and don't really have any opinion as a result.

But....doens't it say there that they are paying the costs of travel themselves ? So what money are you talking about spent on equipment and travel ? It says they are paying for that themselves !?


Are you one of their bitter other halves or sometinhg ?

Yep on that one they seem to be paying for all that themselves. That's fair enough.
It was pedal2Poland.com I was looking at sorry.

jomc

I was asked to do one of the third world trips where you go over and work in an orphanage type thing and raise money for your trip and for a donation to the orphanage. Its an irish 'charity'/company running it. At the start they said we would have to raise about 2000 with 500 of that going straight to orphanage. As more time passed, the costs went up and up with little or no explanation. We had to do 'training' days for a large cost which did little or nothing to train us. I put my foot down and demanded to know where all this extra money they wanted was going, they said it was due to flights going up, but the costs went up little by little from 2000 to 5000. They never asked for the 5000 in one go though, it was like hey send us your 500 for the charity now, send us 1000 deposit for flights now, etc. They also wanted 600 each for a bus and driver to escort us from airport and anything beyond walking distance, which turned out to be 5 days in 3 weeks, and there were 15 people going????After i wanted to know what was going on i got a voicemail telling me they felt i wasn't suitable for the trip.

I kept in contact with a one that went and she was severely traumatised by it. She said the orphanage was next to a private school, they were sent to the private school as english teachers for a few days and the orphanage received their teaching wages, fair enough, but not the 'giving' they expected. Then they were working in orphanage at evenings and weekends. It wasn't so much an orphanage as a home for disabled/children with sever illnesses who couldn't be looked after by their parents and had been left there. None of the group had any medical training and were never made aware that the children could be anything less than 100% healthy. I won't go into loads of detail on what she was expected to do but they did have to take a lot of care of these children after a day teaching she said they all struggled to cope. She did say that over there the orphanage was kind to them and weren't impressed they weren't made aware of the duties they'd signed up for. They were given the choice of just doing the teaching to get the money for the home if they wanted but that there was no other help to their jobs in the home and that the children would be undercared for. Also there was never any mention of the money that had supposedly been sent to the charity.

I'm just giving this as my example of having been involved on one of these things. I, and the others def felt that the irish 'charity' organising it misrepresented the costs and the work involved, and were not transparent with where the money ended up. I'm not too confident that a lot of that money didn't just stay in ireland. I know of three guys and one other girl who had the exact same issue with this group. After there were a few complaints they organisation changed names.

ConfusedLepton

jomc wrote: »

I was asked to do one of the third world trips where you go over and work in an orphanage type thing [...] and were never made aware that the children could be anything less than 100% healthy.

I went to a 3rd world orphanage and all I got were these lousy sick kids! Personally, I'm appalled that she didn't get the Disney experience - she really should ask for her money back!

up for anything

Vodka Princess wrote: »

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Lucky I said IF you ask me then isn't it.
I also wouldn't really call this a charity, just a bunch of lads wanting to watch football and using charity as a way to do it.
Id say half of them will never do any 'charity' again after this trip of a lifetime

Vodka Princess wrote: »

No on the rocks actually, and I don't use charity money to pay for them :-)

I'm surprised you used a question mark in the title of this thread. Could you please provide some sort of proof or back up to your assertion that these lads are chancers and that they will be using charity money to pay for their drinks along the way?

jomc

ConfusedLepton wrote: »

I went to a 3rd world orphanage and all I got were these lousy sick kids! Personally, I'm appalled that she didn't get the Disney experience - she really should ask for her money back!

Clearly you missed my point on this. These children were not just in need of a tissue to blow their noses on, they were very ill and in a lot of cases physically or mentally disabled, the children were all in need of medical care. Not a few office workers with little knowledge of their illnesses or needs and absolutely no medical training to look after them.

I believe that given they were expected to provide medical care that they should received some training for it and they should have known what they were getting into.

Vodka Princess

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a bunch of lads who are using charity as an excuse to get a free trip to the euros?
If it was really all in the name of charity would all the money they're spending on accommodation, flights, food etc not be better given to the charity.
We'd all love to go to the euros but using the pretence of charity as a way is a bit wrong I think.
Bunch of chancers if you ask me.
Anyone feel the same?

All money raised goes directly to the charity, they pay all their own costs. You could have fond this out with about 10 seconds of googling.

But no, you decided to start a thread on a public forum slandering the good name of a charity.

For fcuck sake.

Vodka Princess

up for anything wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

A few pints is very different to a trip of a lifetime. They're chancers

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Lucky I said IF you ask me then isn't it.
I also wouldn't really call this a charity, just a bunch of lads wanting to watch football and using charity as a way to do it.
Id say half of them will never do any 'charity' again after this trip of a lifetime

Vodka Princess wrote: »

No on the rocks actually, and I don't use charity money to pay for them :-)

I'm surprised you used a question mark in the title of this thread. Could you please provide some sort of proof or back up to your assertion that these lads are chancers and that they will be using charity money to pay for their drinks along the way?

Well this is the debate isn't it!
To me the seem like chancers, gettin sponsored to get a trip of a lifetime, maybe im just cynical, but that's my opinion.

And i never said they'd use the money on drinks along the way

Vodka Princess

JamesL85 wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a bunch of lads who are using charity as an excuse to get a free trip to the euros?
If it was really all in the name of charity would all the money they're spending on accommodation, flights, food etc not be better given to the charity.
We'd all love to go to the euros but using the pretence of charity as a way is a bit wrong I think.
Bunch of chancers if you ask me.
Anyone feel the same?

All money raised goes directly to the charity, they pay all their own costs. You could have fond this out with about 10 seconds of googling.

But no, you decided to start a thread on a public forum slandering the good name of a charity.

For fcuck sake.

Where does it say that on pedaltoPoland.com

El Horseboxo

Vodka Princess wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I'm normally very skeptical of charities that are run like a business and donate directly to ones that I know where the money is going having learned about them. I also hate all that sponsor me so I can climb the Kilamanjaro crap too. But these lads are paying for all their own expenses and are donating all received money to their charity. They are using a 3rd party donation site, have a money received counter and have a lot of eyes on them now thanks to the exposure. They just seem like they used the Euro's to gain that exposure.

Does it say anywhere on pedal2Poland.com that they're paying for all their expenses?
Is part of the sponsorship money raised not goin on this

Are you serious? You've already replied to someone posting a quote from the Pedal2Poland site saying they're paying for everything themselves. You basically said you read it but didn't believe them. But you are now asking where it is on the site?

In case you still haven't processed it from the first time.

From the about section on the Pedal2Poland site:

"The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!"

Vodka Princess

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I'm normally very skeptical of charities that are run like a business and donate directly to ones that I know where the money is going having learned about them. I also hate all that sponsor me so I can climb the Kilamanjaro crap too. But these lads are paying for all their own expenses and are donating all received money to their charity. They are using a 3rd party donation site, have a money received counter and have a lot of eyes on them now thanks to the exposure. They just seem like they used the Euro's to gain that exposure.

Does it say anywhere on pedal2Poland.com that they're paying for all their expenses?
Is part of the sponsorship money raised not goin on this

Are you serious? You've already replied to someone posting a quote from the Pedal2Poland site saying they're paying for everything themselves. You basically said you read it but didn't believe them. But you are now asking where it is on the site?

In case you still haven't processed it from the first time.

From the about section on the Pedal2Poland site:

"The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!"

And incase you didn't see i said that was talkin about the pedaltoPoland.com website, the Irish version not the uk one.
Yes they said they were covering their costs which is fine and good and i have no problem with that.
I however don't see that on the Irish site

El Horseboxo

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Are you serious? You've already replied to someone posting a quote from the Pedal2Poland site saying they're paying for everything themselves. You basically said you read it but didn't believe them. But you are now asking where it is on the site?

In case you still haven't processed it from the first time.

From the about section on the Pedal2Poland site:

"The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!"

It seems there's 2 sites here.

www.pedal2poland.co.uk

and

www.pedaltopoland.com

OP kept saying pedal2poland.com so it's impossible to know what the hell he/she is on about.

Vodka Princess

JamesL85 wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Are you serious? You've already replied to someone posting a quote from the Pedal2Poland site saying they're paying for everything themselves. You basically said you read it but didn't believe them. But you are now asking where it is on the site?

In case you still haven't processed it from the first time.

From the about section on the Pedal2Poland site:

"The costs of the cycling expedition (travel, food, accommodation, equipment) are being met by us. If you’d like to help us meet those costs too, please let us know!"

It seems there's 2 sites here.

www.pedal2poland.co.uk

and

www.pedaltopoland.com

OP kept saying pedal2poland.com so it's impossible to know what the hell he/she is on about.

My bad, was the Irish version, the .com one.
The UK one clearly say they're meeting their own costs which is cool. I don't see that with the Irish one

I am pie

Vodka Princess wrote: »

My bad, was the Irish version, the .com one.
The UK one clearly say they're meeting their own costs which is cool. I don't see that with the Irish one

To tell you the truth, it really comes across as though you have some sort of agenda against these lads.

Fair play to them I say, I hope they have a great time and I hope they manage to raise as much money as possible for the charity. Any other sentiment seems petty and needlessly malign.

Vodka Princess

JamesL85 wrote: »

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a bunch of lads who are using charity as an excuse to get a free trip to the euros?
If it was really all in the name of charity would all the money they're spending on accommodation, flights, food etc not be better given to the charity.
We'd all love to go to the euros but using the pretence of charity as a way is a bit wrong I think.
Bunch of chancers if you ask me.
Anyone feel the same?

But no, you decided to start a thread on a public forum slandering the good name of a charity
For fcuck sake.

And if it was slander im sure boards would lock the thread.
Its a debate, that's all

up for anything

Vodka Princess wrote: »

And i never said they'd use the money on drinks along the way

You may not have said it but the implication was there. :rolleyes:

TheBunk1

Vodka Princess wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a bunch of lads who are using charity as an excuse to get a free trip to the euros?
If it was really all in the name of charity would all the money they're spending on accommodation, flights, food etc not be better given to the charity.
We'd all love to go to the euros but using the pretence of charity as a way is a bit wrong I think.
Bunch of chancers if you ask me.
Anyone feel the same?

Fair play to em I say. They're not actually "going to EURO's" though, in the sense of a couple of weeks holiday on the piss. They're going to be cycling for two weeks straight, covering 1500km in the process. They arrive in Gdansk for the Spain game and I think if they go to see the game they bloody deserve it after all that.

They'll be cycling while the tournament is on and be nowhere near where the matches are on.