Injured child gets 11.5 million euros

A Primal Nut

I dont think this would encourage people not to get insurance. If she had injured someone in the other car, she might have been jailed for reckless driving and having no insurance. The only reason it didn't happen in this case was perhaps because of the circumtances; her child is disabled and needs full-time care.

Dudess

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

If you were driving and suddenly your kid in the back yelled out of the blue "Look at the animals mam!' you would get a fright/be distracted/momentarily lose concentration - anyone would, those who think they're immune to that are deluded. Why the insistence that it was something more sinister when there's no evidence? I know there's no guarantee the scenario I described is the true one either but it seems to me it would be the more likely one.

Not that the Facebook stuff looks too great either though. Idiocy from her pal talking about it being "grand" to drive uninsured.

The fact is she was driving uninsured. Then apparently the seatbelt didnt work right or some other nonsense and the child ends up hitting the windscreen an suffering the injuries that has him in the state he's in and making excuses about why she ended up going across to the wrong side of the road and hitting another car all sounded very iffey. The facebook page just adds to it.

It's my belief that a series of negligent actions on here part caused what happened to happen and notin quick succession either. Driving without insurance shows a disregard for the rules of drivingand how serious it is. Not havign the kid strapped in fully and then whatever she did to end up veering across the road all point to her not being fit to drive a car and the responsibilities involved.

I've been driving for 13 years. For the first 6 of those I occasionally had kids in the car (gf's niece) and since then a lot of my driving will have my own kids. I've never even come close to causing a catastrophic crash like this by anything even similar to that. I dont just stare and steer when something gets my attention like that.

Plus the fact that she doesnt even give a **** enough to educate herself on where the €11.5m they are getting comes from before having a rant at people about it.

HE BLOODY DISERVES IT AFTER THE TORTURE HE WENT TRU. OK (her spelling). The way she goes on is as if they have been wronged somehow. The son has, yes, but by her and her negligence not some 3rd party. If the person she hit in the other car had been the one to lose control, cross the road and plough in to her car and caused the injuries to her son that way, would anyone be questioning the blame lay with the ininsured driver that crossed the road and damaged a child so badly? Would they ****.

Points taken, but in fairness, I'm not suggesting she would have stopped and stared when the child distracted her - a split second of looking away because of a reflex reaction can be all it takes.

micropig

tbh wrote: »

I wouldnt be too quick to draw conclusions on someones education based on what they post online if I were you. Your posts are littered with mistakes and you appear not to understand what the word "rabble" means.

But even I wouldn't drive a car without insurance.

tbh

micropig wrote: »

tbh wrote: »

I wouldnt be too quick to draw conclusions on someones education based on what they post online if I were you. Your posts are littered with mistakes and you appear not to understand what the word "rabble" means.

But even I wouldn't drive a car without insurance.

Touchee

Motorist

micropig wrote: »

But even I wouldn't drive a car without insurance.

I am genuinely starting to think she that she was too stupid to realise she needed car insurance. I am also starting to wonder how she actually managed to pass the driving test and get a drivers licence.

Bruthal

Motorist wrote: »

I am genuinely starting to think she that she was too stupid to realise she needed car insurance. I am also starting to wonder how she actually managed to pass the driving test and get a drivers licence.

You will be having nightmares about her next:pac:

Dudess

Motorist wrote: »

"TOO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THERE INSURANCE WILL GO UP COS OF MY SONS CLAME, UR IDIOTS, IT WONT, HIS MONEY CAME FROM THE 'MIBI' OF IRELAND. ITS A SEPERATE ORGANISATION TO INSURANCE COMPANYS AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS WAITING FOR SUMONE TO CLAME IT AND MY SON DID AND HE BLOODY DISERVES IT AFTER THE TORTURE HE WENT TRU. OK. LONG MAY HE LIVE !!!!!!!!! feckin begrudgers!!!! nutin else worrying them but insurance isnt it well for them, without that money he wont get proper treatment, and with that money he can eventualy go over seas for stemcell life changing treatment so F*^# the begrudgers!!!!"

All my assumptions about this woman were correct. She is basically just a vile, uneducated, ignorant, unremorseful scumbag. People spoke of the torment she will feel having to live everyday with what she did. I would suggest she is probably too stupid and lacks that level of self-awareness. Her mind will probably be too preoccupied with wondering when the next episode of Jeremy Kyle is airing.

Such specifics you can't know for sure either though.

micropig

Dudess wrote: »

Such specifics you can't know for sure either though.

Well what's all this about the money not coming from the insurance companies and sitting there for years waiting for some one to claim it?


Seriously...?

Milk & Honey

Motorist wrote: »

I am genuinely starting to think she that she was too stupid to realise she needed car insurance. I am also starting to wonder how she actually managed to pass the driving test and get a drivers licence.

How do you know she did the test and obtained a licence.

tbh

micropig wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

Such specifics you can't know for sure either though.

Well what's all this about the money not coming from the insurance companies and sitting there for years waiting for some one to claim it?


Seriously...?

She said that premiums wont go up, and thats what the chap from MIBI said as well.

Thrill

micropig wrote: »

He spelling? Low achiever in education

Really?

Guy:Incognito

tbh wrote: »

She said that premiums wont go up, and thats what the chap from MIBI said as well.

If claims outstrip the amount going in either payouts have to be lowered or premiums have to rise.

Either way, she was driving uninsured so she hasnt even contributed to it in the first place.

Motorist

micropig wrote: »

Well what's all this about the money not coming from the insurance companies and sitting there for years waiting for some one to claim it?


Seriously...?

She seems to think it's like some twisted version of the National Lottery, such is her level of ignorance.

Motorist

tbh wrote: »

She said that premiums wont go up, and thats what the chap from MIBI said as well.

http://www.independent.ie/business/p...s-2093471.html

Mr. Casey of the MIBI

"estimated that claims involving uninsured drivers are loading €40 per premium on honest drivers every year.

The MIBI is responsible for compensating victims of accidents caused by uninsured and unidentified vehicles.

All insurers pay into it -- a cost borne by honest motorists "

The average uninsured driver claim is 24,000 euro. How can a record claim (249 times the average uninsured driver claim) of 11.5 million have anything but a negative effect on premiums paid?

micropig

From the MIBI website


While this is a very necessary social service, it does cost a significant sum each year. For example, in 2002, the total cost was €90 million. This is funded entirely by the Insurance Companies who must become members of MIBI and must pay a levy to meet this cost.
MIBI is governed by a Board of Directors and is monitored by Government

firedancer

micropig wrote: »

But even I wouldn't drive a car without insurance.

I doubt your I.Q. level and others on this thread would enable you to be in charge of a vehicle at all.
Your envy of that huge payout is so obvious it's embarrassing, to think there are Irish people so petty and poor minded in such numbers here on boards.:mad:

micropig

Thrill wrote: »

Really?

Fixed. I hope that's grammatically correct.

I took responsibility and action to rectify it;)

I hope you don't sue for a payout, because I've no insurance

Guy:Incognito

Motorist wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/p...s-2093471.html

Mr. Casey of the MIBI

"estimated that claims involving uninsured drivers are loading €40 per premium on honest drivers every year.

The MIBI is responsible for compensating victims of accidents caused by uninsured and unidentified vehicles.

All insurers pay into it -- a cost borne by honest motorists "

The average uninsured driver claim is 24,000 euro. How can a record claim (249 times the average uninsured driver claim) of 11.5 million have anything but a negative effect on premiums paid?

micropig wrote: »

From the MIBI website


While this is a very necessary social service, it does cost a significant sum each year. For example, in 2002, the total cost was €90 million. This is funded entirely by the Insurance Companies who must become members of MIBI and must pay a levy to meet this cost.
MIBI is governed by a Board of Directors and is monitored by Government

I think they are working on the technicallity that this claim, taken in isolation, wont raise premiums from where they are now. (though the fact its so large , it possibly could, but sure whos going to question the poor mother of a disabled child)

firedancer wrote: »

I doubt your I.Q. level and others on this thread would enable you to be in charge of a vehicle at all.
Your envy of that huge payout is so obvious it's embarrassing, to think there are Irish people so petty and poor minded in such numbers here on boards.:mad:

Are you serious? She caused this. On her own. Through her negligence and as far as we can see hasnt even been punished for driving without insurance. She now has the gaul to go on a rant about others. She doesnt seem to have shown any remorse or even understandign that she has done something wrong.

micropig

firedancer wrote: »

I doubt your I.Q. level and others on this thread would enable you to be in charge of a vehicle at all.
Your envy of that huge payout is so obvious it's embarrassing, to think there are Irish people so petty and poor minded in such numbers here on boards.:mad:

Free lifetime medical care would have been more beneficial for the child


Low as my IQ is, my car is still insured, I have respect for my children ad would not carry them in a vehicle which was not compliant with the law.

Dudess

micropig wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

Such specifics you can't know for sure either though.

Well what's all this about the money not coming from the insurance companies and sitting there for years waiting for some one to claim it?


Seriously...?

I meant the Jeremy Kyle stuff and all the other "probablies" on this thread. Not great debating. I disagree with how she worded her FB status but I'm not sure it proves any of the assumptions here other than being a venting after such a difficult time (despite all the longing to blame her, it was an accident). Look at all her support, including from seemingly reasonable people (I agree some of them don't come across well).
Look, I don't know the ins and outs, nor do I think she's without fault, but is it too much to give her the benefit of the doubt instead of rushing to condemn her? None of us know the full details. A little compassion wouldn't kill some of ye either - at the centre of this is a disabled little child.

Thrill

micropig wrote: »

Fixed. I hope that's grammatically correct.

I took responsibility and action to rectify it;)

I hope you don't sue for a payout, because I've no insurance

I wasn't questioning your spelling. It was the idea that it automatically indicates, as you put it, "Low achiever in education".

Still believe that now?


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Motorist

firedancer wrote: »

I doubt your I.Q. level and others on this thread would enable you to be in charge of a vehicle at all.
Your envy of that huge payout is so obvious it's embarrassing, to think there are Irish people so petty and poor minded in such numbers here on boards.:mad:

The woman you endlessly defend who disregards the law and caused this horrific accident, her demonstrable low intelligence level and lack of remorse along with the company she keeps are obviously more to your liking.

Where is that gem from her friend Paddy Kilbane again? Oh yeah " i dont bother with insurance either so its grand haha!! "

Guy:Incognito

Dudess wrote: »

I, but is it too much to give her the benefit of the doubt instead of rushing to condemn her? None of us know the full details. A little compassion wouldn't kill some of ye either - at the centre of this is a disabled little child.

We know she drove her car around uninsured. That on its own is enough to condemn her. People properly restrained dont fly out of their seats from the back seat and hit the windscreen either. Notice it wasnt her that went through the window, she made sure she was properly belted in I see.Then theres her washy story about being distracted. What about the innocent motorist she crashed in to?

The disabled cild at the centre of this is there because of the actions of his mother. Theres a list as long as you like of disabled kids that could do with money to ease their suffering but they have the misfortune to have parents thatlook after them properly and have the ability to use their brains.

If you watch any of the cop shows on tv from the UK etcthey show that people with enough disregard to drive uninsured often show it in other areas of driving and end up endangering others.

micropig

Thrill wrote: »

I want questioning your spelling. It was the idea that it automatically indicates, as you put it, "Low achiever in education".

Still believe that now?

The style of the post and inaccuracies regarding where the money comes from would lead me to this conclusion, the spelling just adds

I probably worded that wrong, but not the brightest move to post something like that publicly on facebook

Motorist

micropig wrote: »

She Liked a group entitled 'Call for a revolution in Ireland: We're not paying the household tax':pac::pac:

Would the €11.5 million not cover the household tax..

Strange that she doesn't direct some of that righteous indignation toward people like herself who drive around uninsured. Or is it that her support of household charge evasion is nothing to do with any principles she holds, rather that she's just a leech who likes to suck whatever penny can from society without giving anything in return.

jetfiremuck

That award should be overturned period. Fact. People do stupid things all the time with their kids and without. How many times do you see kids in cars unrestrained. What if she was on her own and she was a quadraplegic would she be entitled to 11mil from the fund? Ffs

While tragic and all that the fact remains that she shouldnt have driven her car without insurance. She is getting benefit without due cause as i see it. Can we find out the following.
1. How long was her insurance out. Lapsed and not renewed or didnt bother.
2. Was she fined/ penalty points on her licence after the accident.
3. Has the child injuries created the "ah God help us" she needs all the help she can get "mindset which over rides the rule of law,common sense and above all take responsibility ffs.

Sala

Sounds like, regardless of who was at fault, lack of insurance, etc, the powers that be just wanted to do the best for the child. To be honest, the most important thing isn't what the mother did or didn't do, or the logic in the decision making process - the most important issue is the welfare of the child and I hope in some way the money can help

jetfiremuck

Sala wrote: »

Sounds like, regardless of who was at fault, lack of insurance, etc, the powers that be just wanted to do the best for the child. To be honest, the most important thing isn't what the mother did or didn't do, or the logic in the decision making process - the most important issue is the welfare of the child and I hope in some way the money can help

So the rule of law etc gets set aside or ignored by the fear of pc backlash ( bad insurance company) and the pay off deal done before coming to court for a full airing of what really happened. Maybe the kid wasnt in the seat at all but beside her in the front seat.....who knows....... right!!!!!!!!

Motorist

Sala wrote: »

Sounds like, regardless of who was at fault, lack of insurance, etc, the powers that be just wanted to do the best for the child. To be honest, the most important thing isn't what the mother did or didn't do, or the logic in the decision making process - the most important issue is the welfare of the child and I hope in some way the money can help

Just in relation to your point on the welfare of the child, even "the powers that be", including the Judge in this case questioned how this was awarded, which is exactly what many posters on this thread who have been branded as "jealous, low IQ and begrudgers" have done.

The judge said " the absence of legislation had left the courts "gambling" with the security, welfare and futures of the most vulnerable litigants. " the judge called for "urgent and prompt" attention to the need for laws providing for periodic payments in these cases.

"The reality is the courts don't know when people are going to die," she said.

Without questioning the logic of the decision process, there will never be reform in this area.

Dudess

Motorist wrote: »

The woman you endlessly defend who disregards the law and caused this horrific accident, her demonstrable low intelligence level and lack of remorse along with the company she keeps are obviously more to your liking.

Where is that gem from her friend Paddy Kilbane again? Oh yeah " i dont bother with insurance either so its grand haha!! "

I wouldn't say not making assumptions like you and others do (e.g. lack of remorse - wtf?!) is the same as defending her...

ResearchWill

jetfiremuck wrote: »

That award should be overturned period. Fact. People do stupid things all the time with their kids and without. How many times do you see kids in cars unrestrained. What if she was on her own and she was a quadraplegic would she be entitled to 11mil from the fund? Ffs

While tragic and all that the fact remains that she shouldnt have driven her car without insurance. She is getting benefit without due cause as i see it. Can we find out the following.
1. How long was her insurance out. Lapsed and not renewed or didnt bother.
2. Was she fined/ penalty points on her licence after the accident.
3. Has the child injuries created the "ah God help us" she needs all the help she can get "mindset which over rides the rule of law,common sense and above all take responsibility ffs.

Not really possible to over turn it it was a settlement, rather than a decision by a Judge. The Judge did rule the settlement because it was a minor, don't think the High Court judge could refuse a settlement because it's too high. The judge did say that we need to look at monthly payouts or annual rather than large one off payments.

If she had been in car by herself and there was no one else who caused the accident, she would not have been able to sue anybody as you can't sue yourself for negligance, even through MIBI.

Motorist

Dudess wrote: »

I wouldn't say not making assumptions like you and others do (e.g. lack of remorse - wtf?!) is the same as defending her...

Ah yes, a public statement indicating clear signs of a woman filled with regret, shame, remorse and acceptance of her part in the horrific accident she alone caused while driving illegally.

"TOO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THERE INSURANCE WILL GO UP COS OF MY SONS CLAME, UR IDIOTS, IT WONT, HIS MONEY CAME FROM THE 'MIBI' OF IRELAND. ITS A SEPERATE ORGANISATION TO INSURANCE COMPANYS AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS WAITING FOR SUMONE TO CLAME IT AND MY SON DID AND HE BLOODY DISERVES IT AFTER THE TORTURE HE WENT TRU. OK. LONG MAY HE LIVE !!!!!!!!! feckin begrudgers!!!! nutin else worrying them but insurance isnt it well for them, without that money he wont get proper treatment, and with that money he can eventualy go over seas for stemcell life changing treatment so F*^# the begrudgers!!!!"

ResearchWill

Motorist wrote: »

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Just in relation to your point on the welfare of the child, even "the powers that be", including the Judge in this case questioned how this was awarded, which is exactly what many posters on this thread who have been branded as "jealous, low IQ and begrudgers" have done.

The judge said " the absence of legislation had left the courts "gambling" with the security, welfare and futures of the most vulnerable litigants. " the judge called for "urgent and prompt" attention to the need for laws providing for periodic payments in these cases.

"The reality is the courts don't know when people are going to die," she said.

Without questioning the logic of the decision process, there will never be reform in this area.

The above reform I agree needs to be looked at, but from what I have heard the insurance companies are the ones that don't want the periodic payments system. Under the current system the insurance company can say when it's finished it's done, the annual payment system the insurance company find it very hard to provide for a unknow payment. I'm not saying I don't agree with a periodic payments system but I think there are arguments for and against.

billybudd

The child won this settlement and seeing as it is court managed i doubt the mother or indeed father will profit from it.

The mother seems mentaly unwell as you would expect after a tragic event like this and i think people should remember that and i can only imagine what she and her family are going through, she may be coming across in a not so well or nice manner but when people are cornered then they usually attack.

Dudess

Motorist wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

I wouldn't say not making assumptions like you and others do (e.g. lack of remorse - wtf?!) is the same as defending her...

Ah yes, a public statement indicating clear signs of a woman filled with regret, shame, remorse and acceptance of her part in the horrific accident she alone caused while driving illegally.

I dunno for sure what it indicates. And neither do you.

Sala

jetfiremuck wrote: »

So the rule of law etc gets set aside or ignored by the fear of pc backlash ( bad insurance company) and the pay off deal done before coming to court for a full airing of what really happened. Maybe the kid wasnt in the seat at all but beside her in the front seat.....who knows....... right!!!!!!!!

No, not exactly. I only saw this story when I saw this thread and my first thought was the poor child, not outrage at his mother, the insurance company, my own premium etc. I understand the arguments on the thread and why the arguments against this outcome however, right now I just feel terribly sorry for that child, and maybe the decision makers did too.
I don't think it is a cynical PR exercise - maybe the mother should be punished more, maybe the child shouldn't have got such a payout becuase it was his mothers fault and she was uninsured etc but maybe they were just human and focused on the child. If his mother was jailed for what happened it would be more hardship for him and he has suffered enough

A Primal Nut

jetfiremuck wrote: »

So the rule of law etc gets set aside or ignored by the fear of pc backlash ( bad insurance company) and the pay off deal done before coming to court for a full airing of what really happened. Maybe the kid wasnt in the seat at all but beside her in the front seat.....who knows....... right!!!!!!!!

Do you think she should have been jailed, then?

billybudd

Motorist wrote: »

Ah yes, a public statement indicating clear signs of a woman filled with regret, shame, remorse and acceptance of her part in the horrific accident she alone caused while driving illegally.

"TOO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THERE INSURANCE WILL GO UP COS OF MY SONS CLAME, UR IDIOTS, IT WONT, HIS MONEY CAME FROM THE 'MIBI' OF IRELAND. ITS A SEPERATE ORGANISATION TO INSURANCE COMPANYS AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS WAITING FOR SUMONE TO CLAME IT AND MY SON DID AND HE BLOODY DISERVES IT AFTER THE TORTURE HE WENT TRU. OK. LONG MAY HE LIVE !!!!!!!!! feckin begrudgers!!!! nutin else worrying them but insurance isnt it well for them, without that money he wont get proper treatment, and with that money he can eventualy go over seas for stemcell life changing treatment so F*^# the begrudgers!!!!"

Her child is the only one she needs to show those things too, should everyone involved in a car crash have to make a public apology? and joan of arc went up in flames.

Sala

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Do you think she should have been jailed, then?

This is what I meant - regardless of whether she "deserves" to be jailed for dangerous driving or whatever, if that would hurt the boy even more I would avoid it

Motorist

Dudess wrote: »

I dunno for sure what it indicates. And neither do you.

I can draw inferences from all of the available evidence of what it indicates a lack of though.

Motorist

billybudd wrote: »

Her child is the only one she needs to show those things too, should everyone involved in a car crash have to make a public apology? and joan of arc went up in flames.

Of course not, but no-one compelled her to make an openly addressed, obstrusive, ignorant statement on a publicly accessible website. Since she did go to the trouble of lashing out at everyone, it's fair comment to point out her very noticeable absence of mea maxima culpa.

billybudd

Motorist wrote: »

Of course not, but no-one compelled her to make an openly addressed, obstrusive, ignorant statement on an publicly accessible website. Since she did go to the trouble of lashing out at everyone, it's fair comment to point out her very noticeable absence of mea maxima culpa.

Abuse from strangers probaly did, stress does terrible things to a person.

ballinteerguy

Hi Margaret

Thanks for your response to everyone below,

TOO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THERE INSURANCE WILL GO UP COS OF MY SONS CLAME, UR IDIOTS, IT WONT, HIS MONEY CAME FROM THE 'MIBI' OF IRELAND. ITS A SEPERATE ORGANISATION TO INSURANCE COMPANYS AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS WAITING FOR SUMONE TO CLAME IT AND MY SON DID AND HE BLOODY DISERVES IT AFTER THE TORTURE HE WENT TRU. OK. LONG MAY HE LIVE !!!!!!!!! feckin begrudgers!!!! nutin else worrying them but insurance isnt it well for them, without that money he wont get proper treatment, and with that money he can eventualy go over seas for stemcell life changing treatment so F*^# the begrudgers!!!!

While I do feel very sorry for your son and his injuries, I do wish him the best and hope the money helps make the rest of his life as comfortable as possible. Most people do wish the best for your son and know that it was an accident.
However, while I dont think that this single instance of payout will drive everyones insurance up, your attitude really comes across above very negative as if this pot of money is just sitting there waiting for you to claim it.
This accident could have happened whether you had insurance or not, but you must accept part of the blame for (we are not told for how long) driving without insurance and quite possibly failing to fully ensure your child was fully secure in the seat.

What also bothers me is the photo posing for the papers as if you won the lotto (hopefully I can attach it correctly), and the sense of entitlement we get from statement above.

Compare to this similar case
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/i-worry-son-will-blame-me-for-crash-says-mum-as-425m-settlement-is-approved-3092448.html

I dont see any posing for the cameras, and sense that the mother truly is remorseful for the accident and genuinely worries about the future and how she will be thought of by her child.

oh and tell your friend Paddy to cop on and get insurance

Guy:Incognito

Sala wrote: »

This is what I meant - regardless of whether she "deserves" to be jailed for dangerous driving or whatever, if that would hurt the boy even more I would avoid it

It would hurt my kids if I was jailed too, do I get a free pass? Or is it only if I damage one of them in the process?

Motorist

Lots of interesting comment from the company she keeps. Another one from her profile.

Paul Keane" False injury claims on the other hand have a huge contribution to premiums as the payouts are taken from the insurance company liable. People should direct their anger and those who make false claims and look to profit from the demise of others and leave an innocent child like Cullen alone."]

How about people driving illegally without insurance, Paul? Is it okay to direct any anger toward them ?

I'd love to work for this nebulus MIBI which just fabricates money out of thin air without affecting anyones premiums.

micropig

ballinteerguy wrote: »

Compare to this similar case
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/i-worry-son-will-blame-me-for-crash-says-mum-as-425m-settlement-is-approved-3092448.html

I dont see any posing for the cameras, and sense that the mother truly is remorseful for the accident and genuinely worries about the future and how she will be thought of by her child.

oh and tell your friend Paddy to cop on and get insurance

Very True, no one wishes ill on the child and hopes he has a successful & happy future,

But the Jordan posing is a bit much

Sala

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It would hurt my kids if I was jailed too, do I get a free pass? Or is it only if I damage one of them in the process?

I'm not thinking about her, I'm thinking about him

Guy:Incognito

Sala wrote: »

I'm not thinking about her, I'm thinking about him

So think about my kids. Do I get a free ride because I have them?

Motorist

billybudd wrote: »

Abuse from strangers probaly did, stress does terrible things to a person.

Maybe, or maybe it's just a logical extension along with all the other available evidence, of what sort of person she is.

jetfiremuck

billybudd wrote: »

The child won this settlement and seeing as it is court managed i doubt the mother or indeed father will profit from it.

The mother seems mentaly unwell as you would expect after a tragic event like this and i think people should remember that and i can only imagine what she and her family are going through, she may be coming across in a not so well or nice manner but when people are cornered then they usually attack.

Really......big difference in their livesv between the day before the settlement and the day after. ....as 11 mil. No tax due on that either I think. That money once all this dies down will all be spent as the parents see fit...dont doubt it for a minute....its a wind fall. Im sure shes over the grieving of the accident her fault etc after 4 years and with this payout the family live quite well without her or husband now having to support the household. By the way ive moved on from the blame game.... Its the indifference to the payout by the insurance judiciary that bothers me.... Its a tax burden on insured motorists whether you like it or not.